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AllOleander
08-27-2001, 05:13 PM
...to help w/ performance??

I have:

Spyder Compact 2k

- Stock Powerfeed body
- Dye trigger frame
- dry stickies
- stabalizer
- modded VA (higher flowing)
- modded stock bolt (removed venturi, tapped for cocking rod, made rear cocking)
- KAPP 45 SS cocking rod
- KAPP f/x beavertail
- pmi perfect drop

what else could i add for performance?

how can i lower the pressure? ( i have the stab..what else do i need??)

Thanks in advance..i want to make one sweet backup :)

**BTW i decided to stay w/ the stock powerfeed body instead of the BL Millenium** :D

Codestar20
08-27-2001, 05:31 PM
For you to go LP you need a turbo valve and a spring kit. You could always do a trigger job on it too. What kind of barrel do you have for it?

Tony G
08-27-2001, 07:16 PM
TRIGGER JOB!!!!

read the thread from TLplus84 about trgger mods i just did my trigger job and it works great

PiranhaPro
08-28-2001, 11:34 AM
Trigger job
Revvy
turbo valve
spring kit
nitro
LP barrel (Bigshot)

Paint Bulley
08-28-2001, 12:49 PM
In a week there should be a different trigger job on the kingman forum.

CARBON
08-28-2001, 01:11 PM
I would like to get a turbo valve for my spyder. I wouldt have gotten the dye frame though. i would get the boo-yaah frame. PLus get a new barrel fo anything else the J&J ceramic is really good. Look at my signatue to take a look at my fine spyder. I wouldnt trade it for anything. Get the chrome boo-yaah at action village
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AllOleander
08-28-2001, 01:35 PM
Booyahh frame: Are you joking..???? NO!
Trigger Job: I already have a sweet trigger pull and on the DYe frame you can adjust a trigger stop (you woudn't need a trigger job if you have the dye frame woudl you??)
Revy: got it (i need to get a Turborev board in it thou..and maybe the Evolution paddle thingy)
Turbo valve..shall i get the mighity max? what wil it do for my gun
i have plenty of barrels for it..i am fine in this category
i need the madman spring kit..i will get it soon
nitro - i am not running nitro on my spyder..sorry. need a co2 backup gun

how low will the pressure be w/ all these?

to go lp you just need a:

- good reg (stabalizer i have..this will be great right? i am running co2)
- turbo valve (might max??)
- spring kit (where does this come in..how does this help w/ low pressure?)

anything else you need for lp>

how low will the pressure be???

VeNoM
08-28-2001, 02:28 PM
ummm, as far as i know the mitey max isnt a valve, its a low pressure chamber made by akalmp. the valve that akalmp makes is the tornado valve. you should get a valve and LPC. and since you want your gun on co2, maybe an anti-syphon tube?

Hsuve
08-28-2001, 03:50 PM
Trigger Job: I already have a sweet trigger pull and on the DYe frame you can adjust a trigger stop (you woudn't need a trigger job if you have the dye frame woudl you??)
There's an adjustable back stop in the DYE frames, but no adjustable front stop. I'm sure you would also want a sear rest, as that would shorten the trigger pull as well. :)

Turbo valve..shall i get the mighity max? what wil it do for my gun
The Mitey-Max isn't a turbo valve...

nitro - i am not running nitro on my spyder..sorry. need a co2 backup gun
Getting nitrogen or not will not change how your Spyder runs off on CO2... If you still need to, you can screw in a CO2 tank and be just fine...

how low will the pressure be w/ all these?
No way to tell until you try. :)

to go lp you just need a:

- good reg (stabalizer i have..this will be great right? i am running co2)
- turbo valve (might max??)
- spring kit (where does this come in..how does this help w/ low pressure?)

anything else you need for lp>
To go LP, you need high flowing parts to allow your gun to recock at lower pressures, and a regulator to adjust the pressure. :) In addition to your list, you also need a high flowing vertical adapter. You need as little air obstruction as possible.

big ugly spyder
08-29-2001, 12:20 PM
springs help by ur striker moving easier with less resistance and makes it eassier to move ur valve pin which pushes the striker back with a small amount of forceallowing ur gun to use less pressure cuz there is less resistance.

CARBON
08-29-2001, 01:38 PM
their isnt any frame that compares, to the electronic frame, and trigger pull. On my boo-yaah mine is almost a blow trigger. You cant do a better trigger job than whats on an electronic buddy. sorry

AllOleander
08-29-2001, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Hsuve
Trigger Job: I already have a sweet trigger pull and on the DYe frame you can adjust a trigger stop (you woudn't need a trigger job if you have the dye frame woudl you??)
There's an adjustable back stop in the DYE frames, but no adjustable front stop. I'm sure you would also want a sear rest, as that would shorten the trigger pull as well. :)

Turbo valve..shall i get the mighity max? what wil it do for my gun
The Mitey-Max isn't a turbo valve...

nitro - i am not running nitro on my spyder..sorry. need a co2 backup gun
Getting nitrogen or not will not change how your Spyder runs off on CO2... If you still need to, you can screw in a CO2 tank and be just fine...

how low will the pressure be w/ all these?
No way to tell until you try. :)

to go lp you just need a:

- good reg (stabalizer i have..this will be great right? i am running co2)
- turbo valve (might max??)
- spring kit (where does this come in..how does this help w/ low pressure?)

anything else you need for lp>
To go LP, you need high flowing parts to allow your gun to recock at lower pressures, and a regulator to adjust the pressure. :) In addition to your list, you also need a high flowing vertical adapter. You need as little air obstruction as possible.

Sorry, i meant the tornado valve.. is it necessary??

WIll the MIght max chamber help at all??

My VA is modded and already very high flowing

i like the trigger on my dye, i think it is fine and short enough..but ill look into it if im bored :)

Nitro.....well if nitro fills are available then i will use my primary marker..inless it breaks down of course (but it wont)....so when nitro isn't available ill use co2 on my spyder..so i dont think ill ever use nitro on it caue if i can get nitro fills, i will use other marker

would i need any other parts to make it higher flowing so it would cock? guess i gota try it to find out


Originally posted by CARBON
their isnt any frame that compares, to the electronic frame, and trigger pull. On my boo-yaah mine is almost a blow trigger. You cant do a better trigger job than whats on an electronic buddy. sorry

Am I going to pay more for a grip frame then I did for my marker??? NO! Sorry, buddy..

Hsuve
08-29-2001, 05:55 PM
What Spyder are you using? If you're using the newer type Spyders using the smaller strikers, I dont' recommend that you use the Tornado. People have complained about it not working and stuff with the smaller strikers. You got like a 50% chance of it working. The Mitey-Max LPC itself will do nothing, however, the vertical adapter will help with airflow lots. :)

Paint Bulley
08-29-2001, 05:59 PM
I have a spyder compact. I just ordered a turbo valve. (should of told me this yesturday hsuve, some mod you are jk. :) ) so if it dosn't work what can I do if anything?

Thanks,

Hsuve
08-29-2001, 06:05 PM
No, no, no. It's the Tornado valve that's picky with strikers. All turbo valves should work with your gun... :)

AllOleander
08-29-2001, 06:38 PM
MY VA IS MODDED!! Its very high flowing :)

Is the mightey max just for looks or something? When Asstricks (PBC) sold his gun he had one on there..are they kinda like the sentimal volumizers for the matrix??

Hsuve
08-29-2001, 07:07 PM
Tsk, tsk, tsk... Already sold his Spyder, and for a leaky Impulse. :( It's doubtful that your modified vertical adapter is as high flowing as the compact Mitey-Max, as all the compact Mitey-max is is a hole. :D Anyways, if you're going to just get the LPC, don't. No point in it, as it doesn't do anything that your stock LPC doesn't...

AllOleander
08-30-2001, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by Hsuve
Tsk, tsk, tsk... Already sold his Spyder, and for a leaky Impulse. :( It's doubtful that your modified vertical adapter is as high flowing as the compact Mitey-Max, as all the compact Mitey-max is is a hole. :D Anyways, if you're going to just get the LPC, don't. No point in it, as it doesn't do anything that your stock LPC doesn't...

Uh were you taking to me? I still have my Spyder, and im selling my vision..had LOADS of problems w/ it :(

Hsuve
08-30-2001, 07:31 AM
Oh, no, sorry 'bout the confusion. Was talking about Asstricks. :)

AllOleander
08-30-2001, 12:18 PM
Yah, Asstricks had a pretty nice Spyder..He needed a new trigger frame tho!! he sitll had the stock one and it looked very ugly!

Too bad he only got like 190$ (or something) when he wanted 250$.......