The Requested Trigger Job ifo

[TLplus84]

WASSUp hehe yeah I finally found the time to post up all the stuff that I did to my trigger, by popular demand :D

Disclaimer: What you do is not my responsibility. Sorry i have to post this up cuz there are idiots out there..

Materials needed:
1 Hammer
1 nail
2 part epoxy
wooden dowel or metal dowel(music wire)
Dremel Tool
sandpaper
Chrome polish or Mother's mag polish
polishing bit for Dremel, or a cloth to apply/buff polish


1. Shortening trigger pull
first, take the trigger pin out of your trigger frame with a nail and hammer. make sure that the grooved sides are coming out first, or the frame will be damaged. Then, you take a piece of wire or wodden dowel if you don't have access to a metal one that will fit comfortably inside the spring. Cut roughly 9 mm of it off, and place it in your trigger spring. Reassemble the trigger, and make sure that the bolt will fire. Then, hook your air up and make sure it will fire every time. It may fire when not gassed up, but it may not fire when it is because when it is gassed up, the mechanics move a lot quicker. Trim the dowel with sandpaper accordingly till you are satisfied.

2. Lightening trigger pull
Take your trigger spring and cut maybe 1 1/2 coils off of it. OR if you are not comfortable with cutting your trigger spring, go to a local hardware store and buy a spring that is the same size, but is lighter(in recoil). IF you do decide to cut the spring, after you do, stretch the spring just a little bit, and put the spring back in with the side you just cut facing down.

3. Shortening Trigger return.
If you look at your trigger from the top view, you will see that there is a tab there to cover the trigger spring. The top part of that touches the main gun body. Take two part epoxy and put a drop on the trigger. Wait for it to dry, and afterwards attach the trigger frame to your gun. If it fires, then leave it. If it doesn't, sand a little down and try again.

This is the basic trigger job. In like 2 minutes, i'm going to go into the more advanced stuff, but i decided to post this one up first for the newbies that wanted a basic trigger job. THe next section will be polishing.

[Richy_C]

yahoo! some one got outta detention early!

[TLplus84]

read disclaimer above please becasue this part is a little risky.

4. Polishing sear
Take your Dremel tool and a med grit sanding bit, or a med grit sandpaper and go over the top of the sear. That is the part that sticks out of your trigger frame.(the silver piece for those who don't know what a sear is :D) Stop when there is a relative shine it. THEN, take a fine grit sanding bit or fine grit sandpaper and go over the sear again. After you are done, you should have a relative shine. Then, take the polish and go over the part you sanded with the polish and the applicator till there is a haze on the sear. let it dry, then buff off. Your sear should now be ALOT smoother. Also, you only need to polish the top half part of the sear. The bottom half does not touch the striker. By the top half, i mean that when you look at the sear, it has an angle in it. That bottom part, which is kinda in your trigger frame, does not need to be polished. Also, this is any option, but you can polish the sides of the sear too.

5. beveling the sear
If you look at the sear, the sides are at a 90* angle. REMEMBER for the next step, Moderation is the key. YOu don't want to overdo it, or it will DECREASE performance. Take your dremel tool and a grinding bit or a rough grit sandpaper and go over the long sides of the sear at a 45* angle. Do it so that it is noticable,but not too much. Also, if you want to, VERY VERY VERY slowly round off the short "wall" of the sear. You will want to do it only a VERY little bit.TOO much will ruin your sear, and you will have to get a new sear. It will make your gun into a paint blender, goin full auto every time you gas it up. If you do not feel comfortable doing this, don't do it. Beveling your sear will make your trigger pull feel cleaner and crisper.
Rounding your sear (short sid) will make the pull shorter, but if done wrong, the product is disasterous, so use caution.

6. Polishing the striker
IF you look at your striker, there is black anodizing on it. The part you want to polish is the part where it "dips" in. That is the part where the striker makes contact with teh striker. Take a fine grit sanding bit and your dremel tool, or just a fine grit sandpaper, and go over that strip until the metal shows cleanly. Then, take a REALLY fine grit sandpaper and go over it again. Take your polish and applicator and apply polish to that area. After, buff off.
There is an extra part, although i will warn you that if you do this wrong, you will need a new striker. If you look at your striker, The lip that is furthest from the Oring is where the sear goes up against in the cocked position. If you bevel that part VERY slightly, it will shorten trigger pull. If you take off too much, it will have the same effects as rounding the sear too much.

That is basically what i did to my trigger so far. Actually, there is one little thing, but that's a secret :D :D :P maybe i'll tell you a little later on..but i'm getting tired of typing. hehe hope this helped you guys

[TLplus84]

PLEASE PLEASE READ THE DISCLAIMER..i don't want crazy foos emailing me or callin my house " HEY YOU $&#@($&#$^#(@^$ YOU #$^( MY GUN NOW IMA KICK YO ***~!! AHHH~!" hehe so i'm just saying what ever you do...it's not my fault

[A damn fool]

Thanks a lot TL, Its too bad tough u didnt do it yeterday, ive been out of school for the past 2 days becsuwe of the snow storm uo here, so it would have been the perfect time to do it, but this is great, ill do it tonight.

[TLplus84]

haha no problem. Were the directions hard to understand? if you have any questions post it up or email me. OH And if you screw up..ITS YOUR FAULT~! :P :D :D

[MP879]

will these mods also work for my Stingray? Cause that would help me alot.

[TLplus84]

i'm really not sure..i didn't mess around with my old stingray at all...sorry

[MP879]

Dang, but if the springs are the same, I can still replace it with a lighter coil for some effect right?

[TLplus84]

yep and you can polish the sear too. I wouldn't go beveling or rounding though because i don't know the effects of it on the stingray, but the spring thing is yes. The question is though:how do you get the spring out?

[MP879]

I don't know, I haven't opened my Stingray yet but I'm gonna do that once I replace the ball detent and sand down the bolt and I'll be able to check the spring. Should I be able to buy a 9mm ball made of like ceramic, acrylic, or plastic, or somethin so that I can replace the steel one that came with my gun that makes an annoying litle ping everytime I pull the trigger at any hardware store along with a spring?

[TLplus84]

try a local crafts store.

[MP879]

that would make sense, I just need to find one around here.

[A damn fool]

Did u ad ur sear or striker or tirger at all to silence the triger frame? I heard if u pad them, ur gun wount make that ping noie ne more. Also, if i chrome polish the bolt, will that help with the scratching of it?

[TLplus84]

don't pad the sear. That's really bad. it will degrade the perfomance. If you want to, get this spray that you use for subwoofers in car audio, it deadens ring....i forgot wat it was called but most car audio places will carry it. The scratches on y our bolt, don't worry about them..i have them too, but they don't affect performance in any way.

[A damn fool]

i know, but its really loud, thatsh the only thing u can here on my gun, so i was thinking if i polished it, it wouldnt make that noise ne more. Just an idea, ithik ill try it on the stock bolt, then if it wors, do it to my cyclone one.

[TLplus84]

it's not the bolt that is making the ping noise. It is the sear taht is engaging with teh trigger. hey tell me how you're going with thte trigger job.

[A damn fool]

im gonna do it tomorow, i need sandpapaer, polsih, and the epoxy. I already cut the trigger spring and have the block in, tht helped a lot, i id that while ago. Will the deadening spray last for a while, or wiol i need to reaply it, and can i use it on the striker too, not just the trigger frame?

[TLplus84]

just do the trigger frame, and dn't get it on the striker. That doesn't make too much noise. Most of the noise is coming from the trigger assembly.

[A damn fool]

How much is tht stuff, i think im gona buy ome ith a friend and split the price, so we can both use it, no sense in buying a huge bottle ill only use once

[TLplus84]

i'm not sure sorry..i'm gonna go this week and buy some..i'll tell you how much i paid for it.

[TLplus84]

did anyone do this mod yet? i awnna kknow how they turned out

[A damn fool]

Ive sanded the things down so far, thats it. Whats the secrret thing, i want to knwo, its pissing me of. Send it to me in a pm or something, cause i want to make my trigger absolutly kick ***. Do u have a spring kit for ur gun, cause im thinking bout buying one for my lp setup, will it make tht much of a difference?

[Predator2]

Your trigger mod works great. My pull is now a little less than a half an inch and i can't believe how easy it is to pull since i beveled the sear and hammer and polished it.

P.S. i would like to know your secret for making your trigger better. ô¿ô

[TLplus84]

hahah i'll save that till next time :eek: but yaeh i'll post it up a little later. Half an inch? hrmm..try to fine tune it a little more..you should be able to reduce it a little more.

[A damn fool]

Can u post a picutre of your sear so we can see how much u bevled it and snaded it, because i dont know how far to go.

[TLplus84]

JUST enough so that it will be noticed.You dont want too much, but too little won't do anything.

[Predator2]

SOOOOOO when will you post up ur secret? and oh yeah i beveled the sear and put more epoxy and its short. Almost 1/4 an inch

[TLplus84]

hahah NICE the trigger feels crisper now right? i'll post it up one day...hehe

[Predator2]

yeah like before whenever i would pull the trigger, i would feel tension before it would shoot, but now i don't feel any tension before it shoots, it just clicksj. Thanx a bunch!

[TLplus84]

yep np..tell me this isn't a kick *** trigger job~!

[Predator2]

well this is the ultimat kick *** trigger job.

[TLplus84]

haha thanx :D

[TLplus84]

hey Damn fool did you do the trigger job yet?

[A damn fool]

Still habent gone out and bought the rest of the stuff, i need the polsih and the epoxy, then it will be done, ill tell u how it goes after i finish.

WHAT IS THE SECRET THING!!!!!!

[TLplus84]

hahaha it's eating away at everyone here isnt' it? i'll tell you later i promise :D:D

[Predator2]

I think its been later enough tlplus. Wuts the secret thing?

[A damn fool]

I just finished it, its unbelivable, my pull is 1/8 of an inch,if that, and its so smoth. It great. thankls for the post, no what is the secret thing so i can make it even better. Also, after i finished evrything, i addded a new triggger block to acount for the slack i had from doing the sear, so now its awsome.

[TLplus84]

LOL i'll tell you guys don't worry...but now you have no need for a new trigger frame right? you got a PHAT stock frame with a nice trigger job....wow an 1/8 inch..that's mad nice..i recently got my pull down to 5 mm...heheh:D

[Predator2]

Ive gotten mine down to 1/4 inch just tonight.

[TLplus84]

cool cool..keep working on it..it could get shorter

[Predator2]

how would i make it shorter? should i bevel a little more?

[TLplus84]

no don't bevel, jsut work with the trigger. More of a trigger stop, more of a stop for the return...

[Predator2]

All right ur the boss! so can you please give me a bonus and give me the secret thing?

[TLplus84]

Counterfeit move this thread~

[Counterfeit]

Where is the please man? :D lol

[TLplus84]

oh please master of all Pbreview would you be generous and move this measly thread? :gag: :P