Guitar Freaks?

[Killer Kat]

Do any of my twisted brethern play guitar? I've got a couple (8) and I'll throw some pic's up if anyone's interested! I've played in cover bands for the last 25 years and opened for some big names, I don't know if you guys will know any of these bands but, I'll throw'em out and see, Hey, cut me some slack I'm as old as dirt! (44) And these guys used to be pretty good 20 years ago!

Outlaws (2 times once in 85 and 2nd time in 87)
Kim Mitchell (in 86)
Rick Sanders(in 88)
Foghat (in 89)
Rick Emmett from Triumph (in 90)
Quiet Riot (in 91)

The band I was with just did cover stuff, and we were good, not great, but tight! we had a lot of fun and met alot of really cool ppl, and alot of girls!!! We once played with a band the Beatles had discovered and signed to Apple records called Bad Finger (ask your parents), they liked us so much they asked us to go on tour with them, But we all had families and day time jobs so we turned them down. So how about it any othe players out there?

[Thor the Mighty]

i have a 1970 les paul guitar priced at 1,500 bux and my dad has a 1970 les paul CUSTOM with peril inlays, and other cool stuff and it is worth lots of money too

ne ways, i am starting to learn guitar

[Knux68]

Ive played guitar for about 2 years... Bass for 6 months.

-Got my first guitar, a crappy Harmony acoustic...
-Purple (It looked blue in the store a swear!:pissed: ) Mexican Fender Strat.
-Dean Edge q4 bass It looks like fire, with orange and red. Pretty sweet. Plays nice too.

At first i thought you were tlkin about the video game guitar freaks hah.

Ill get pics up in a few days

-Knux jams with Killer Kat

[Incube]

I got a simon and patrick acoustic, and a samic elctric (i for get the model its red!):crazy:

[PiRaNhA69]

ill have a pic soon.but a i have a 1990 gibson les paul studios, fender squire strat, this awesome guitar that is like 30 years old that i got from my dad, i have a yamaha acoustic and a fender acoustic (miniture style).

[green_goblin]

hey you know alot apparently, whats wrong w\ my guitar i know its crappy but still its a rouge, the first 3 frets dont play and yes i can play the guitar, also the low e buzzes

[strubbe]

I've got a Washburn WG-280 or something like that... I really like it. It was pretty cheap too.

[Killer Kat]

Originally posted by green_goblin
hey you know alot apparently, whats wrong w\ my guitar i know its crappy but still its a rouge, the first 3 frets dont play and yes i can play the guitar, also the low e buzzes
Either your neck is bent convex or your bridge is too low! Or both! Have ya had the strings off of it for some time? that will cause it to bow, Look down the neck (hold the guitar like a rifle and sight it from where ya hook the strings into the bridge) see if it bows backwards, Get back to me and let me know what that looks like.

[Incube]

My brige on my samick was really low when i first bought it and it wouldnt let me play the first few frets.

[Killer Kat]

This be me with Lester!

[Killer Kat]

This is a Gibson EC-10, Sweeeeetnessss!!!

[Killer Kat]

And a Parker Midi Fly, this baby does alot more than just fly, it screams!!!

[Killer Kat]

My red Schector, with my main Squeeze Kimmie! I love to play with her too!

[Knux68]

What model is that kimmie?

-Knux :D

[Killer Kat]

She's a 1964 model, Not bad considering she's got three kids I play Paintball with her oldest son Brandon(15)She's the best thing that's ever happened to me, Well at least this week! :D

[Knux68]

First Ax(well 2nd)- My Mexican Fender Strat... I swear it looked blue in the store...

-Knux gets made fun of for the purple guitar

[Knux68]

My 2nd Ax, Dean Q4 Edge Bass. PLays like a dream. Next bass im getting is gonna be 6 string so i can play like les claypool:crazy:

-Knux couldnt play liek les if he was trapped in a guitar stoe for 10 years

[Jordan]

hey knux......thats tight.....who cares if its purple....theres purple pb guns :)

[Diablo78370]

Im getting my ESP LTD this week hahahahaha i love ESP LTD's im getting the M-100 and a Marshall stage amp. BLang BLang. ANd THOR not to much longer were on song number 6. 1-4 are perfected like mugs we just have to record them. We are gonna try 8 or something out of Alans numerous songs. And should atleast have 6 of our best songs on the demo. Aight Aight.

LIVE LONG HEAVY FRIGGIN METAL

[Thor the Mighty]

LONG LIVE HEAVY FRIGGIN METAL!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOHOOOO!

look at this beautiful picture! look look!

[Letchworth40]

i have a fender hot rodded american double fat strat. my band is finally getting good too!

[wushupeter]

Originally posted by Thor the Mighty
LONG LIVE HEAVY FRIGGIN METAL!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOHOOOO!

look at this beautiful picture! look look!

you know what heavy metal sucks **** theese days their are a bunch of talentless guitar playerz who play crazy lookin guitars and then de tune them


i have an ibanez joe satriani chrome boy and a yamaha sbg 500

[PiRaNhA69]

here it is

[PiRaNhA69]

sry for the side pic

[Diablo78370]

Dude my band is trying to bring back the old school heavy metal, yes we have some more contemporised heavy metal (sepultraish) but we are really trying to bring back some old school metal (pantera, suicidal tendencies). And not all metal is ***** as you said man like some bands that everyone thinks are hard (Linkin Park). BUt seriously now it dosent suck this is mainstream metal is just another branched out form of metal. So you cant say all metal sucks because it dosent.

[mikek2111987]

dont even look at the gun it waaaay upgraded now,this is old pic.just look at my pretty Ibanez GSR 200

[Diablo78370]

thats some cool **** there brotha

[mikek2111987]

yeah,anything u see on it silver(except strings) is now black,looks really really sweet

[green_goblin]

Hey kat sorry it's been so long - my guitar neck looks like the middle of it would be bending out away from you if you were playing it, not sure if thats convex or what, might be my eyes! is there anyway to fix this, or ajust the bridge ?

and the other guy that had the same problem - howd you fix it ?

[Magnus55]

Has anyone ever heard of a brand called "Blue Ridge"? They make accustic (sp?) guitars and well, I am in the process of buying one of those.

[Magnus55]

I just realized it's spelled acoustic. Anyways heres a picture. I'm just a beginning guitar player so I figure, just about any guitar will do.

[Knux68]

Goblin...Thats not a good thing. Usually happends on cheap guitars (the one i didnt wanna show you guys a pic of) Im sure Kat will give you a better explination on what to do. When it happend to me i had to take the strings off, glue the neck back to the body better, and re string it.

-Knux really would rather to just buy a new one:D

[AllOleander]

I got a SunBurst Fender Strat and a Jasmine Electric/Acoustic .. pics later

[Killer Kat]

Having a straight neck is critical! But first a couple of questions, Here is where I'll play Dr, and you play patient. What kind og guitar is it? Did you have strings on or off the guitar for any period of time? Has been it used regularly, or has it been in the case under the bed with strings tight or loose? Did you change the gauge of string? Does it have adjustment capabilities? Truss rod, bridge adjustment, or saddle adjustments ( be able to raise or lower , move foward or back each string at the bridge plate) Getting the neck straight is the first step if the guitar is ever going to play decent, providing it can be "tweaked" back into playing condition!

[Ebonclaw]

My GF plays the guitar, but oddly enough, hates Page and Plant. I just reminded myself of that. Now I'm going to cry.:cry:

[green_goblin]

Originally posted by Killer Kat
Having a straight neck is critical! But first a couple of questions, Here is where I'll play Dr, and you play patient. What kind og guitar is it? Did you have strings on or off the guitar for any period of time? Has been it used regularly, or has it been in the case under the bed with strings tight or loose? Did you change the gauge of string? Does it have adjustment capabilities? Truss rod, bridge adjustment, or saddle adjustments ( be able to raise or lower , move foward or back each string at the bridge plate) Getting the neck straight is the first step if the guitar is ever going to play decent, providing it can be "tweaked" back into playing condition!

alright- It's a ST-3 Rogue, got it from musicians friend but i cant find it on their site anymore so I duno,
I've had it prolly a month, and the same strings have always been on it, but I have played regularly, tuning it regularly as well,.. pretty sure you can ajust the bridge (its got all the screws and stuff i think, just not sure how), and yes it has a truss rod- hope that helps thanks a lot,

[Killer Kat]

Hey thought I'd include a couple of amps too!

[green_goblin]

now that kats fixed my guitar, i can play again, hey does anyone know any easy songs that are good for starting out? I can play a few like Green Day - When I come around

oh kat, thanks for your help

[Letchworth40]

has anyone had any problems with fender amps??? I had to return 2 fender amps because after the first hour of playing they each went out. I then bought a Marshall that seems to be working perfect... but has anyone had a fender problem?

[green_goblin]

nope but my rogue amp was picking up a radio station real quiet today, i only know cuz i was bent over trying to take off the ugly rogue sign on the front and could hear it real quiet, pretty nice 30-40W amp for the price, besides the fact i got jipped out of 2 other amps from musiciansfriend.com- theyre usually pretty good..but yea
http://img.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/thumbnail/487120.t.jpg

[green_goblin]

does anyone know a good cheap accoustic?

[PaintKiller]

I have one that is $290 its an ibanz

[ME]

anyone wanna trade paintball stuff for a yamaha bass and amp let me know pm me

[PaintKiller]

once I get a job I am gonna get my self a nice fender guitar :)

[Killer Kat]

Originally posted by ME
anyone wanna trade paintball stuff for a yamaha bass and amp let me know pm me

Show us some pic's. What models are they? I'm always interested in music stuff!

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Originally posted by Violent Gnome


I think Metallica-For Whom the Bell Tolls is fairly easy.

It is easy...the only tricky part is getting the descending scales part down in tempo...its hard to get it in sync with 2 guitars. Another easy one is Harvester of Sorrow, and alot of the black album is real easy.

Hard Metallica is Disposable Heroes, Frayed ends of Sanity and Dyer's Eve. My forearm always starts to cramp up when I play through these @ tempo.

another easy song is Hero of the Day...that's real easy, gotta tune your guitar down though (that's not really a problem at all though)

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Once I get a career..I'm going to get a custom ordered Jackson Randy Rhoads, neck-thru 24 frets, emg-81 pickups bridge and neck. original floyd rose tremolo, mahogony body, with ebony finger board and Radioactive sign abalone inlays. I"m not sure what color I shoudl get, I might get pewter (grayish) or like a satin black with white beveled edges. I'm not into the graphics (flames, skulls etc). It's gonna cost around 3 grand. I'll also get a Mesa Boogie Tri-axis preamp goinng into a strategy 500 power amp 250 watts stereo baby! I'll be able to get any sound I want with that baby.

[WGP*BLACK*MAGIC]

ive got a 1999 fender pj squire bass black and white and an 85 or so fender jazz bass with a d tuner and custom paint and stuff(well its my dads but i play it too). hes got the above jazz, a 2000 modulous graphite 5 string bass, close to two grand i think, graphite neck!dope and what else.... hes got a fender 25th aniversary strat, an ovation acoustic bass, a yamaha acoustic guitar, my uncle has a gibson somethin or another and i might be getting a either a musicman or modulous flea bass. i dont know

[Puddleglum]

I want a guitar soooo bad.

[Cloud-VII]

Who, other then Gnome and I, play drums?
We could start a band, and all wear our Paintball mask! Haha.
2 drummers, maybe 3 guitars, some keyboards, a bass or 2, some singers.
Anyone play violin?

[tHeBuTThOlEMaN]

I've been playing guitar for about 6 months, I love it!!
I wanna learn how to play bass too

[PaintKiller]

ehhe I have seen a band with 4 peeps playing quitar and 1 bass back up singers lol a keyboard player and outher peaple doing nothing just standing around actind like they know how do do stuff lol
If you want to know how stuff works visit howstuffworks.com I think thats the link you can find out about allmost how everything
works

Right now I am mostly playing lots of red hot chili pepper songs.

[Violent Gnome]

Originally posted by Cloud-VII
Who, other then Gnome and I, play drums?
We could start a band, and all wear our Paintball mask! Haha.
2 drummers, maybe 3 guitars, some keyboards, a bass or 2, some singers.
Anyone play violin?

i play a bit of violin! (too bad i suck) what kind of drum setup do you have?

[Violent Gnome]

Originally posted by PaintKiller
ehhe I have seen a band with 4 peeps playing quitar and 1 bass back up singers lol a keyboard player and outher peaple doing nothing just standing around actind like they know how do do stuff lol


were they wearing orange jump suits, by any slim chance?

[Mokushi Faitaa]

slipnot only has 2 guitars...one guy uses a BC rich Warlock, and the tall scary dood plays a JAckson Soloist. And they have black jumpsuits now. So who're you talking about?

[Cloud-VII]

I just have a 5 peice generic set. But I put Remo heads and Zildjian cymbals on it, so it sounds decent. I'm poor though, and I am not in a band, so I don't have a real need to get anything better.
But I have been playing drums since I was 13. I was in the Highschool Drumline. We traveled all over the place going to compitions and stuff. In 1996 we were ranked 7th in the Nation through WGI. I played snare. During Concert band I played the timpani.

I always wanted to be in a band where I set up a HUGE rack of all sorts of different drums and played that. I want everything from toms to different snares to a set of quints to timpani to gongs to a marching machine and so on. But also have someone else playing a regular set. And while im doing it I want to sing backup. Not lead.

Then Slipknot came out, and pissed me off because they have those 2 ****ers and they don't do anything. But they took my idea and didn't capitalize on it!

Oh yea, there is a death metal band called "Bruijia" or somthing, im not sure on the spelling. But they have 3 bass players and a guitarist.
Its a band made of Dino and Christian from Fear Factory, Billy Gould from Faith no More, I think the Drummer from Brutal Truth(not 100% sure), and a few other people. They sing in spanish, its mexican deathmetal.

[PaintKiller]

mexican deathmetal hehe

[Violent Gnome]

Originally posted by Cloud-VII
I just have a 5 peice generic set. But I put Remo heads and Zildjian cymbals on it, so it sounds decent. I'm poor though, and I am not in a band, so I don't have a real need to get anything better.
Oh yea, there is a death metal band called "Bruijia" or somthing, im not sure on the spelling. But they have 3 bass players and a guitarist.
Its a band made of Dino and Christian from Fear Factory, Billy Gould from Faith no More, I think the Drummer from Brutal Truth(not 100% sure), and a few other people. They sing in spanish, its mexican deathmetal.

i had a 5 piece Ludwig rocker for about a year, then i added another bass drum, 2 more toms and i have sabian and paiste cymbals.

i think the band you mean is Brujeria

[Cloud-VII]

Yea, thats the spelling of it. They sang "Don Quiote Marijiana", the Macerana knock off. Its great.

They are releasing a greatest hits CD, which I want to get because I want one of their CD's, but I only listen to death metal every once in a while.

Anyways, if I start a band, you can be the set player.

[mikek2111987]

this will be my new bass soon. B.C. Rich Widow

[Violent Gnome]

Originally posted by mikek2111987
this will be my new bass soon. B.C. Rich Widow

thats um. odd. if i were you, i'd get a beast, or just not get a bc rich

[KOTOWA]

I wanna start playing electric guitar, bass, or whatever its called. I want to know whats the best starter guitar, I know how to play accoustic. I would also need an amp. I saw a crappy walmart guitar, with a miniamp, but im not willing to take any risks. I might get an ibanez from my friend. Wtf is a fret?? Help me!

[Cloud-VII]

....what?
How can you know how to play accoustic if you dont even know what a fret is?

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Originally posted by mikek2111987
this will be my new bass soon. B.C. Rich Widow

Dood BC Rich is really really good if you get an american made one. Handmade in the USA. The cheaper japanese (I think) made one's the platinum series and the bronze series..I'd stay away from those. But if you're getting USA made Widow, awesome. Doesn't the bass player from W.A.S.P use that bass?

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Originally posted by KOTOWA
I wanna start playing electric guitar, bass, or whatever its called. I want to know whats the best starter guitar, I know how to play accoustic. I would also need an amp. I saw a crappy walmart guitar, with a miniamp, but im not willing to take any risks. I might get an ibanez from my friend. Wtf is a fret?? Help me!


OMG, the frets are the little metal bars that are positioned vertically on the neck. the closer the frets to the body of the guitar/bass the higher the note you'll play when you press the string down on that fret. Get some guitar mags and read up on it a little more...don't make any stupid purchases. THe ibanez is probably way better than the walmart p.o.s Don't get anything from those stores. Get a guitar from a guitar dealer.

I suggest Chuck Levin's music center in Washington DC. Get it Mail ordered. they have almost everything for less money than the rest and the service is great...and the equipment I've ordered from them has always been in perfect condition when it got to my door.

Here's a list of what I've ordered from Chuck Levin's

1. ESP EX-351 guitar
2. Line 6 flextone 2 XL (2 x 12 version with 100 watts stereo, my brother's setup is these first two)
3. Jackson RR3
4. Line 6 flextone 2 plus (1x12 60 watt version..with speaker outs that boost the power to 100 watts when hooked up to a 8 ohm speaker cab)
5. 2 4x12 line 6 speaker cabs (full stack at home...my brother gets the privalidge of using both until I get back home in a week, then I get half of it)

All of that equipment cam in impecable condition and was less money than mars music and musicians friend. You have to e-mail or call to get prices and availability...they'll get anythign you want though.

[mikek2111987]

Originally posted by Mokushi Faitaa


Dood BC Rich is really really good if you get an american made one. Handmade in the USA. The cheaper japanese (I think) made one's the platinum series and the bronze series..I'd stay away from those. But if you're getting USA made Widow, awesome. Doesn't the bass player from W.A.S.P use that bass? i dunno but i got the idea from the girl in kittie

[KOTOWA]

Originally posted by Cloud-VII
....what?
How can you know how to play accoustic if you dont even know what a fret is?

A crappy walmart guitar. I can play notes, not tune it...

[timie720]

hey killer kat ive followed u over....:rolleyes:

well ive been playin bass for about a year and a half]

i got a blue ibanez soundgear 300dx. its funny cuz billy sheehan is from here and i met him and he wouldnt touch my ibanez.....he says yamaha is prue california(where he plays now) but he signed it after is showed him that i was pretty good :P

[KOTOWA]

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1493602946

hows that for me?

[Mokushi Faitaa]

sorry..I dont' know anything about Johnson bass guitars. maybe somebody else does.

[WGP*BLACK*MAGIC]

dont get a bc, there are soo many better basses on the market, get a modulous quantom 4 or 5 depending on how manys string you want, the cost like 2000-3000 though but they have a carbonfiber/graphite neck, sweet

[mikek2111987]

i just want a funky shaped one like that bc, that is the coolest looking bass ever

[timie720]

hey mike how much u wanna pay?

[mikek2111987]

all depends, not more then 300, which would take a good amount of saving

[timie720]

if u can find a good deal....id look into the ibanez ergodyne(sp). the thing looks sweet. try ibanez.com then www.musiciansfrined.com

[Cloud-VII]

I think you mean:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/

[PaintKiller]

They send my catalogs all the time ;)
OH! did you know you can listen to the how the pedal sounds like its kewl.
I get this samash card in the mail once in a while and on the day of the big sale you get up to %60 off!
So i bought a boss distortion pedal for $40 and than I bought guitar polish $12 ,Picks, $5 guitar cable fender nice one $15 and it only cost me $40 all together and when I looked at the reciet it showed only the effect pedal so I saved so when ever I am going to buy stuff I am gonna go when there is a big sale.
there is gonna be one on dec 14,15,16 opens at 10am to 9pm on friday tru sat than on a sunday it opens at 12am to 8pm but thats only 4 the sale after that the times change again ;)
they have really good prices I diddent know how it worked?
I thought i would pay cheaper and not get stuff 4 free?
lol I spend $40 I get $40 free ummmmm!

[p8ntballMerc]

When I go to the Ibanez US site, I can't find a GRX 70, only in thier UK site. None of the GRX series in the US site look like the one from the UK site. The closest thing I found that looks like the GRX 70 in the US site is the RG170. Is the RG170 the same as GRX 70? I'm asking this because I bought a GRX 70 used for $129 and I don't know if it was a good deal. I traded it in for my Jackson DX1 reverse(I paid $160 for it and traded it in for $75).

I just wanted to know how bad did I get ripped off and I don't know sh*t about guitars, I just play around with them when I don't play paintball. I do like the GRX 70 though, it was much smaller and lighter than my jackson.

Thanks for you time guys.

[PaintKiller]

I am learning the solo to the sond time by pink floyd ;)
I like solo the most.
I will post pics real soon of my my marker and my guitar.

[green_goblin]

Originally posted by KOTOWA
I wanna start playing electric guitar, bass, or whatever its called. I want to know whats the best starter guitar, I know how to play accoustic. I would also need an amp. I saw a crappy walmart guitar, with a miniamp, but im not willing to take any risks. I might get an ibanez from my friend. Wtf is a fret?? Help me!

I don't know what you've figured out by now, but the frets are between the litttttttle metal bars on the neck, some of em have dots....understannnnnd.... if your going for a cheaper quality guitar, you should go to www.musiciansfriend.com , and make a package for youself, include a squier guitar $140ish, not bad electrics for the price, pick out a practice amp, 10Watt should do I'm not real sure I started w\ a 40W, make sure to get everything your gunna need, strings, gigbag etc.. if you can play acoustic you should have no trouble with electric

Although the bass players are offended by this, I know from expierence and everone agrees bass guitar is a little easier than electric keep that in mind, and if your in the KC area and can somehow by chance play drums look me up we need a drummer

[PaintKiller]

I need a mini amp (pig amp) or something smaller I have a 60w tube amp thats my dads.
but I dont want to use it all the time I need a smaller one to.
what kind should I get?
I am not looking to spend much.
I was using my old tape player thingy lol karakioe I cant spell lol.
but its shot now I blew it out to much distortion pedal effects.
with the solo going lol.
oh I allmost learned the song here is the tab for the lead I got a little more to learn.

e-|--------------------------------------------------------------------------
B-|--------------------------------------------------------------------------
G-|---------------------------------4>(6)======>(5)===>(6)vvvvvvvv>(5)>(6)---
D-|----2>4vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv---------------------------------------------------
A-|--------------------------------------------------------------------------
E-|--------------------------------------------------------------------------


e-|-------------------------------------------------
B-|-------------------------------------------------
G-|---4<(6)=======>4>2---4>(6)--4vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv----
D-|-------------------------------------------------
A-|-------------------------------------------------
E-|-------------------------------------------------

e-|---------------------------------------------5>(6)----------------
B-|------------------------------5-5>7>5>7>5>7------------7vvvvvv----
G-|------------------------/6----------------------------------------
D-|--4<(6)====>4vvvvvv-----------------------------------------------
A-|------------------------------------------------------------------
E-|------------------------------------------------------------------

e-|---------------------------------------------9--9---9--9>(10)======>9--
B-|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
G-|---4>(6)==========>4>2-----4>(6)------6/9----9--9---9------------------
D-|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
A-|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
E-|-----------------------------------------------------------------------

e-|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
B-|--10>(12)==========>10----9vvvvvvv--9>(10)=====>9------------------------------
G-|-----------------------------------------------------9>(10)==>(11)==========>9-
D-|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A-|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E-|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

e-|----------------------------------17----------------------------------
B-|----------14---17>(19)----17>(19)-----17>(19)==========>17---17>(19)--
G-|------14--------------------------------------------------------------
D-|--/16-----------------------------------------------------------------
A-|----------------------------------------------------------------------
E-|----------------------------------------------------------------------

e-|--------------------------------------------------------------------------
B-|--17----------------------------------------------------------------------
G-|-------16>(18)vvvvvvv--16>(19)>16>(18)vvvv---16>(18)==========>16vvvvvvv--
D-|--------------------------------------------------------------------------
A-|--------------------------------------------------------------------------
E-|--------------------------------------------------------------------------

e-|--------------------------------------------------17>(19)-----17>(19)=====>17-
B-|--------15--15---14>(15)>14-------------------14------------------------------
G-|----16------------------------14----------------------------------------------
D-|----------------------------------16vvvvvvv-----------------------------------
A-|------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E-|------------------------------------------------------------------------------

e-|----------------------------------------------------------------------------
B-|----17>(19)vvvvvvvvvvvvv----(19)>17--17vvvv---------------------------------
G-|----------------------------------------------(17)>16>14--14---16>(18)vvvv--
D-|----------------------------------------------------------------------------
A-|----------------------------------------------------------------------------
E-|----------------------------------------------------------------------------

e-|---19>(21)===>19--19>(21)=====>19--19vvvvvvv----
B-|------------------------------------------------
G-|------------------------------------------------
D-|------------------------------------------------
A-|------------------------------------------------
E-|------------------------------------------------

e-|---16------------------------------------------------------
B-|-------17--------17/19vvvvvv---17>19>17---17\14vvvvvvvvv\--
G-|-----------16----------------------------------------------
D-|-----------------------------------------------------------
A-|-----------------------------------------------------------
E-|-----------------------------------------------------------

This begins where the rhythm changes to the progression that plays over the
chorus(begins with Dmaj7)
e-|----------------------------------------------------------
B-|----------7---10/12--10vvvvv---9--10---9>10>9>7\5vvvvvv---
G-|-----2/7--------------------------------------------------
D-|--4-------------------------------------------------------
A-|----------------------------------------------------------
E-|----------------------------------------------------------

e-|-------------------------------------------------------------
B-|--7/9---9----7\5-----5\2/5-----2---2-------------------------
G-|----------------------------------4>(6)======vvvv>4--4>(7)---
D-|-------------------------------------------------------------
A-|-------------------------------------------------------------
E-|-------------------------------------------------------------

e-|-------------------------------------------------------------------
B-|-------------------------------------------------------------------
G-|--(6)======>4--------(6)========>4>2>4>2vvvvvv--4>(6)=========>4---
D-|-------------------------------------------------------------------
A-|-------------------------------------------------------------------
E-|-------------------------------------------------------------------




e-|-------------------------------------------------------------------
B-|-------------------------------------------------------------------
G-|----4vvvvvvvvvvvv-----2vvvvvvvvvvvv--------4-----------------------
D-|--------------------------------------4/6-------6\4--2vvvvvvv------
A-|-------------------------------------------------------------------
E-|----------------------------------------------------------------0--

(E) F#m A
And you run, and you run to catch up to the sun, but it's sinking,
Lead III
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---7---5---3---2--
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---7---5---4---2--
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E F#m
And racing around, to come up behind you again
Lead IV
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---2-------------------------------------------
--4>(6)------4>(6)>4>2-----2-------------------
------------------------4------2-vvvvvvvvvvv---
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E A Asus4 A
The sun is the same in a relative way, but your older,
Lead V
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----10---12----10------
----0-----0-----0------
----11---12----11------
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[Mokushi Faitaa]

ahhhh thought I'd post my guitar gear for all y'all

these aren't exactly mine...(the one's in the pics) but they're pretty damne close. I don't have a digicam so bear with me.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

my brother's (also band mate) LTD-ex 351 he's put emg-81 in the bridge and an EMG-60 in the neck sounds stellar

my rhoads..(pictured above this post has two 81's in it.

I get some pics of us playing live this summer...you'll be surprised.

We lost our drummer though turns out he's going to marchin a drum corps. ugh, I always knew he was a *****. It's looking like we'll end up witha girl drummer...she's a babe though so it should work out fine. We're a 3 guitar 1 bass and drums band. And we are mostly 80's metal, Metallica, Pantera, Megadeth are our biggest influences...and the high pitched vocals Iron Maiden -esque.

[KOTOWA]

Hahha, i just got a crappy epiphone les paul, the cheapest one, nothing like kats. Im just gonna learn to play on it, then, when i can prove to my dad i can play, he is gonna get me a gothic explorer or les paul

[Violent Gnome]

mokushi, i'll give you my soul for that rr

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Originally posted by Violent Gnome
mokushi, i'll give you my soul for that rr


I'm really not in the soul purchasing business...thanks anyway

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Originally posted by OneArmedScissor
Fenders Stratocasters are awesome. I've got 3 :)
I'll never buy any other electric guitar other than a fender.
i've also got this old classical guitar made in 1965 this dude gave to me, this 32 year old yamaha acoustic that was my dads and a Takamine acoustic.

i want another amp.... but my guitar teacher won't sell his original 1965 Fender Twin Reverb Amp
:mad:

Stratocasters are not good imo, they're not versatile at all...only 21 frets....and the tremolo just sucks compared to a floyd.

I'm not a big fan of single coil pickups...they're just too noisy and they don't distort good IMO. I do however like a fender strat's clean sound....really pristine.

[koolkid22]

i love guitars

[mikek2111987]

yeah well i love bass's so :P you can see mine at my site

[jiujitsu-stud]

heres a picture of a guitar thats just like mine, its a 40th anniversary strat, havent touched it in about 5 years at least.

http://www.guitarhangar.com/guitars/images/fenstratal.JPG

[Letchworth40]

my gear...

not pictured is my Gibson Explorer

[Letchworth40]

and Kat...

Thanks for telling me to get the PA instread of a half stack. Its so much better. And i figured out a 800watt PA is better than a 100 watt half stack.

I'll get some pics up of my band in action soon!! the pics are awsome. Our light show costs almost as much as our total setup.

[Killer Kat]

That's no problem bro! I'm in the process of updating my house amp system right now. (For those who don't know music talk, I don't mean the stereo in my house, the house system is what the audience listens to. the band listens to their own amps as well as the monitors for vocals, the house mixes everything together and project it out front.) I've had EAW cabinets with Bose subs, but I've been under powering them. So now I'm looking into some more muscle! I'd like to get some more Crown Amps, but they are out of my price range. So I'm leaning towards some QSC stuff.

[PaintKiller]

I want to get a marshall amp the stack ones but I can afford the head for it with out that the amp is nothing lol.
I am going to samash in edison, NJ later :)
then I got guitar lessons at 3:30
I am takeing lessons for cords.
I want to learn more about cords and all the types of em.

[KOTOWA]

Chords suck, I hate em. But you have to learn them. They have a huge list of almost all the chords at ultimate-guitar.com, go to lessons, and i think one of the catagories, and then choose chord list, it has alot of chords, i printed i think 20 pages with 10 chords each page.

Dammit, if i could have a good guitar. Kat, please, no more pictures, im jealous...:mad:

[KOTOWA]

Oh yeah, go to tabit.net, they have this awesome software called tabit. It cost 19 dollars to get all the features, which i havnt, yet, but the softwares awesome. You download files that have the tab, most have drum tab, bass tab, and guitar tab. you can play it to see how fast it goes, and a crap load of other features. Shiftycapone recoomended it, so dont give me credit.

[PaintKiller]

they are kinda fun to play once you get to learn em :)
I noticed all the songs now that use em so I finnaly learned buddy holly from wezzer and hash pipe.
I diddent go to my lesson today.
just lost $30 lol ahh its not my money hehe
my mom called em to tell them that I wasent gonna go today and they told my mom we need to pay $110 for something today or we have to pay a late fee for it.
we all ready payed $80 a month and $80 security fee that we get back the end of the month and a $15 regerstration fee which
It came out to $189
ahh athleast I dont have to pay it my dad does ehhe.
and if someone waites in the store while I am in a lesson they charg a extra $10
they got nerve ................ :eek: :eek: :eek:

[mikek2111987]

I AM SUBSCRIBED TO TABIT SO:P awsome program once you give them $19

[Shifty Capone]

hell yeah it is!!!!

[KOTOWA]

Yeah, i downloaded all the songs. not very big zip file either.

[Letchworth40]

Originally posted by PaintKiller
I want to get a marshall amp the stack ones but I can afford the head for it with out that the amp is nothing lol.
I am going to samash in edison, NJ later :)
then I got guitar lessons at 3:30
I am takeing lessons for cords.
I want to learn more about cords and all the types of em.

Get a PA before you get a stack. Its Sooooo much better. If hooked up properly you can get a Stereo Effect and have different sounds come from different angels. Its sweet. But i'm still getting a Marshall AVT Stack soon :rolleyes:


heres my explorer.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

dood you're going to play a 1000 dollar + guitar through a marshall AVT stack?!!! oh jesus, please spare this man for he knows not what he does. If you have a guitar like that..the only thing you should play it through is a nice Tube Amp...like a,

Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier
Marshal DSL (TSL aren't that good imo)
VHT pitbull
Soldano SLO-100


Solid state amps are crap...they're half as loud and most of them are made to seem "like" tube amps.

unless you go digital (like me) just get a tube amp...


Killer Kat, how much does a PA system cost you anyway? We usually use the in-house PA as opposed to our own. my line 6 amp can plug straight into a PA via XLR outputs (mic outputs) but it turns off the amp's power section so I have to hear myself through the pa...its tough cuz most places...the PA speakers are in front of the stage...It doesn't really work very well...so to be real loud I was hoping to get a real powerful PA ...that I could put on the stage...and hear myself more like a regular amplifier...My 4x12 guitar cabinet is plenty loud actually...but I'm a bit obsessive. I like the shock value horrendously loud metal gets from the crowds in a small town in Montana....so I need LOUDER!

[Letchworth40]

What??? and dude... the AVT2000 Models are great. Its running through a PA so its really loud. People could hear me playing about a mile away when we were just screwing around in the garage.... heres my setup. Anyone can tell you this is a good setup (even Kat)

Marshall AVT2000 50 watt
750 watt 12 channel AMP
2 Yamaha Club Series Speakers 700 watts
3 Yamaha Club Series Monitors 300 watts
Digitech GNX 3 Pedal
Samson Wireless

with this i can get as loud as i want whenever and it sounds great. I can get any sound imaginable in stereo through this.

And when my Amp has the Emulated DI Out on it too but it sounds better when i Mic it. I get a better reverb effect. If you want to make it sound like a real amp just put a few monitors close to you. A PA should cost somewhere around $1000-$2500. My setup which is pretty good costed around $1800

[Mokushi Faitaa]

a tube amp would sound better....

its all opinionated anyway.

I personally really hated the AVT I tried...the line6 was way better

I have a savings account for teh sole purpose of saving up for a high end VHT power amp w/ the X88r soldano preamp...now that is going to be Godly tone

[Killer Kat]

Tube! There is nothing like warm and rich, silky smooth, as Clapton called it from his old Cream days the "Woman Tone" you just can't get that without tubes. I make a point of avoiding processors. Their decay sucks, it takes you to a certain point and then just drops straight off, that is not cool. Sone of there tone quaility is ok, however it still sounds fake. Do you guys know what I mean?

[mikek2111987]

In a way....maybe not the right way...but i think i get it

[Killer Kat]

Just got off the phone with my music shop and ordered my new QSC power amp. It's the PLX series 3002 and it delivers 900 watts at 4 ohms. So you guys should be able to hear me from your house! :laugh:

[Mokushi Faitaa]

When you get a PA system you usually run everything into it.

you Mic the guitar amp, bass amp, the drums...keyboard amp whatever else you got...give a Mic to anyone who sings...put it all through the PA.

yOu'll hear the Singer just fine...just make sure each channel's volume is balanced with one another. that's why people have sound technicians.

[Letchworth40]

wholly crap... 900 at 4???? Where do you play??

my Powerpod 1082 is 400watts at 4 or 800watts at 8. And thats more than enough when we play in auditoriums, outdoors, or in the garage.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

hmmmm I just got done lookin up some QSC products...not too bad a price. Will that get "vibrate your molars and crush your chest" loud?

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Well, I bought a new amplifier today. Actually I put it on layaway. in about 4 months I'll be teh proud owner of the VHT Pittbull Ultralead! HELL YEAH!

[Letchworth40]

ok... i changed my mind. I'm not getting the AVT Stack. I'm going to get Marshall 1960BC and Marshall 1960AC cabinets with a Marshall 1959SLP or Marshall DSL100 head. I'll probably get it in the next week. so.... which head?

[KOTOWA]

Sweet, at guitar.com, you can see interviews with pro players, in like, major bands, like system of a downs guitarist. ETC.

Thats cool.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Originally posted by Letchworth40
ok... i changed my mind. I'm not getting the AVT Stack. I'm going to get Marshall 1960BC and Marshall 1960AC cabinets with a Marshall 1959SLP or Marshall DSL100 head. I'll probably get it in the next week. so.... which head?


The one you like the sound of more. Dont buy a amp head without trying it out first.

i"m really messed up right now..so I'm keeping my reply to a minimum.

[Killer Kat]

I've posted over in the Other than Paintball traders forum.This is some of my unused toys. If any of my musical brother know anyone looking for this kindda stuff please send them my way! thanks~KK

[KOTOWA]

I might be interested. ill check it out.

[Letchworth40]

I'm real intereseted in the tele... just gotta few questions first.

[KOTOWA]

My friends LTD V guitar. im not sure exact model. Its aesome compared to mine.

[mikek2111987]

That looks totally photoshop'd kotowa

[KOTOWA]

i know
i wanted to see who would SPOT THE KNOT!!!

[mikek2111987]

I WEEN!! i should try that, see how i can do.

[Violent Gnome]

holy ****
dave mustaine is selling a bunch of his guitars
pretty hefty prices too

http://www.andybrauer.com/megadeth_gear_electrics.html

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Holy **** they're expensive.

I saw that link on the Jackson/Charvel board. Yesterday.

I don't like the Y2KV but the other King V's are really nice.

[Violent Gnome]

i love this one

http://www.andybrauer.com/dmeg15flame_dbl1_nd.jpg

[Mokushi Faitaa]

that is definately a keeper. Worth 13,500 dollars? I think not, but it is friggen awesome. the body almost looks like an upside down Burger King party hat.

[mikek2111987]

I wonder if that mask costs under $20.........hmmmm...

[Killer Kat]

Hey I've owned a Gibson flying V before. Now that looks more like a W? I've got it, the flying Whopper! Have it your way! Only at Burger Buddies! :eyes:

[Mokushi Faitaa]

I'm confident that that flying W plays better than any gibson V ever built. Jackson USA is God. And the that figured maple top has got to be one of the best I've ever seen. McInturff might have a few better. But they are for Rich wankers only anyway. You could have the Jackson custom Shop build you that exact guitar for about 3500 dollars.

[KOTOWA]

HAHA!!! MY FINGERS ARE SORE, but its worth it, i spent at least an hour learning the intro to Island in the Sun. Ouchies.

[PaintKiller]

I know that song.
I will record me playing it ehhe.
I will make it short.
its an easy song one you get it down.
ok I just recordered it but it sounds really bad because I was playing into the mic and it just sounds bad :(
I am going to get a piece soon to hook up to my comp so I can plug my guitar to my pc :)
aww crap it says it not a valid format so i will put it on my site then give the url and good luck w/ the song :)

[Letchworth40]

My band played Island In the sun at a party last week. Its a great song! you can play it anywhere and get cheers. shibby

[PaintKiller]

I play mostley red hot chili peppers
I am in to that funkey stuff from them :)
did anyone watch the music and sports awards last night on epsn>
the rhcp were that and a lot outher bands and sport people.
dave mirra umm whell a hole lot
, carmen electra,
jay z
and tons more :)

[KOTOWA]

whats some good songs and artists that use Drop D

[-RuShPB227-]

Im getting a guitar, but I dont know that much yet. I am going to get a Squier (SP) Stratocaster or just a strat. Either will be a package that comes with a gig bag, an AMP (beginner kind), Cord, Strap, and all the stuff I need. How does it sound to yall? Should I?

[KOTOWA]

squire has had a bad reputation, i would reccomend an ibanez package, whats your limit?

[-RuShPB227-]

i dont have any money able to be spent on a guitar right now. Over the summer im going to mow neihbors yards and earn some money. My friend has a squire and I like it. I wont be spending tooo much.

[PaintKiller]

I scaned my guitar book from the lessons
here is the pic from the first lesson he ever gave me.

[KOTOWA]

Heres a nice strat copy, with an EXTREMELY NICE beginner amp. It has extra strings and everything, so this is good. its also a very good price.

[PaintKiller]

here is from the next week

[PaintKiller]

third week :)

[PaintKiller]

the week after :D

[PaintKiller]

And this weeks lesson :)

[KOTOWA]

and for several reasons, i didnt understand the notebook. mainly cuz the only thing i know to read is tab.

[PaintKiller]

me to at first
but once you learn the first one you can read the rest

[PaintKiller]

lol some of the time I forget where to play the chord so I am like
here?
he says no
then I say ok over here?
he says dont guess
so then I go here>
lol
then finnaly I am right
but I am getting bettter
it gets hard because there is for example like a c7 chord and there is 2 c7's like u can bar it or use all fingers so sometimes I am lost :(
but the c7 one was an example

[mikek2111987]

BAH to guitar. I suck at it. Thats why i play bass.:)

[Letchworth40]

bass "guitar"?...

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Why are you posting all this Blues Head crap? Its great that you're learning it and all...but I really don't think anybody gives a rip. Sorry I'm in a bit of a foul mood right now. Got pulled over by the police because my headlight was out, i was on my way to purchase a new bulb for it!!! ARGH.

anywho paintkiller...have you started learning the extended chords..(I'm talking C11 and C-5+9) ? nice juicy Jazz chords.

and when soloing in a Blues or Jazz style always remember to focus on the 3rds and 7ths of the scale.

Learn a the Dorian And Mixolydian scales...and use them to solo over those charts...if you haven't learned that already...it'll impress your teacher (unless he's an ***)

[PaintKiller]

lol
I am gonna learn some kewl stuff and be like wut bit#h
eheh

now a reading from the holy guitar bible.

From his right hand he held the holy pick
In his left hand he played the holy chord
Then with all his strenth he played!
It was terrible
It killed the devil
THE END!!!

[mikek2111987]

Originally posted by Letchworth40
bass "guitar"?... yep. dont like those stand up ones:boring:

[Mokushi Faitaa]

I like a good String Bass. Just not for Metal.

[PaintKiller]

I was just playing my guitar for 1hr 50 mins
I wore out my pic lol
it got real small now....
damn fender pics
If it said made in china I bet it would work
ehhe

[Mokushi Faitaa]

well, now we're bragging about practice time?

ok here's some numbers for you

today I practiced :

Guitar- 4 hours
Trumpet- 1 hour
Piano- 1 hour
Saxophone- 30 minutes.

and I had a concert tonight (Concert Band...for school)


and I still managed to go to the bar tonight. BYATCHES!

[PaintKiller]

rofl
g00d j0b!

[green_goblin]

woh dude youve got lots of time on your hands lol

-ive got a peavey preditor plus-

[Mokushi Faitaa]

I do have lots of time. I also don't bother working on anything else. Homework is dumb.

[KOTOWA]

Give me some awesome sounding drop d songs to play on myguitar during the little time i have.

[mikek2111987]

I think SOAD plays in drop D often. But for really hard cool songs play some In Flames. Tuned really low.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Originally posted by KOTOWA
Give me some awesome sounding drop d songs to play on myguitar during the little time i have.


Filter- Hey Man nice Shot, its frikken easy as hell too. As are most drop D songs.

[toadman7b22]

im a drummer myself and i play a cheap guitar and a epiphone bass

my freind has a good band and he has a 10 thouand dollar vintage washburn that is custom one of a kind its amazing sounding
he also has a fender 82' strat that was aobut a thousand
the guy that bought it played it once and put it back in case... lol

[Dynasty_PB]

wow 7 pages on guitars, thats awesome. OK here is my rig:

~I play a '57 Gibson Les Paul
~Got a JTM 45 half stack in the Ice Box
~A Digitech RP300 for effects

I am in a Punk band and play rythm guitar. My favorite musical style to play is punk of course lol. The greatest guitarists of all time~ Joe Strummer,Tom Morello,and Brett Gurewitz.

[PaintKiller]

awww crap
I went to radio crap
I have been l00king for a small jack that goes in go my guitar cable to the midi think on my sound card but all they have is strero
:(
so I have to wait till get my songs on my comp :(

[KOTOWA]

UP!!!

[recballer]

i play, i have a 2002 gibson sg standard. its sweet. i should put a pic up. its pretty nice and its an accomplishment since im only 14 and my parents would never buy me a $1300 guitar.

[KOTOWA]

Crap, my peice of shiznit epiphone broke. im returning it, and savin up for a flying V or an Explorer.

[WordTizzle]

Ernie Ball Music Man Steve Morse Signature Model

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Well...I saw Iced Earth last night. and yes, they are the tightest band this side of Jupiter. The BEST metal band I've ever seen. and currently the obsession of my ears for the past month.

[PaintKiller]

eheheh mauahhaha muahaha
I got tickets to a korn concert this june :)
My sisters bf got em for her but he dosent want to go so I am gonna
I dont like the band but what tha hay its better than nothing! :)

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Throw a brick at Munky for me ok? i hate those pricks. I didn't mind their first 2 cd's...but then the whole rap/rock thing got started and now it all just sucks a nut. and its their fault!

[PaintKiller]

Munky??? :confused:
lol I dont know anyof em
I am waiting to get rhcp tickets :)
my fav band

[Mokushi Faitaa]

throw a brick at flea...hopefully it will hit him right in the nuts.

[PaintKiller]

lol
flea and his weird dance I saw him a few times do a tumble suace thing while playing it was crazy.
If I tried thta I would break my nuts!!! :eek:

[kento]

man, 8 pages is a lot for this thread...anyway... I have a white gibson flying V, black explorer w/ EMG's, epiphone Les Paul custom w/JB 59's, and a custom strat with a single in the neck, JB59 in the bridge...used to play in a cover band, trying to get something going these days

[Mokushi Faitaa]

nice kento... what kind of EMG pickups did you throw in that gibson? my rhoads has dual 81's in it. my next guitar (which will also be a jackson rhoads or a Soloist) will be getting an 81 in the bridge and an 89 in the neck. it will be Custom made.

[kento]

thanks...they're old Select's, not too bad. I wouldn't mind getting some new ones for it at some point, but they definitely have the sterile '...And Justice for All' sound. The Rhode's are sick, I definitely wouldn't mind having one someday...

[KOTOWA]

BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM SO JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im gonna get a new guitar for summer soon, right now i have about 200, cuz i returned my crap epiphone, im savin up, so ill have 500, what would be good.?

[kento]

hmmm...not sure, you sometimes can find good used stuff around, maybe a used Gibson SG? when I was looking for an amp, the reviews on www.harmony-central.com helped me out a lot, you might want to check that out...

[KOTOWA]

How is the les paul? Why does everybody like em. I like em, and i dont know why, its just a feeling i got.

[kento]

well, mine is an epiphone one, and it was kind of weird til I had the pickups switched. Now it's pretty dang good...they're heavy, play amazing, have a cool tone, good sustain, look fresh...I like it...I still want a real gibson one though, like 73-77 would be insane...

[Mokushi Faitaa]

the best Low end guitars IMO are the import Jacksons and ESP LTD series. For 500 dollars you can get a pretty nice M-series guitar or Viper. www.espguitars.com and www.jacksonguitars.com


though, stay away from the ESP message forum...bunch of a**holes linger around there. The Jackson forum is really good to ask questions in....but they are really biased towards Gibsons...and pretty much anything that isn't JAckson or Charvel.

[KOTOWA]

Im really falling towards the ESP guitars. I like some of those 2002 colors! Their guitars also have the body shapes that are my style. Kirk Hammet also plays their guitars, so it must be good. Now all thats left is to see if they are durable, and can play. Ill do that at the store around here.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

ESP has some quality in those LTD's. Though, you should know that the only reason Kirk Hammet plays ESP is because they pay him to. They are great guitars though...I've played the EX-351 and the EC-300. If you like the les paul style The EC-300 (or EC-1000 i fyou feel saucy) would be a great choice. The neck is about 5 times faster than a gibson's. and the EC-300 will retail for about 450 dollars. f (the MSRP is like 799)

[Dynasty_PB]

The neck is about 5 times faster than a gibson's

Hahaha. Please tell me your not talking about a Gibson Les Paul neck. Because it probably has one of the fastest necks in the world. It has proven by becoming the offcial guitar of the worlds fastest music, Punk Rock!

Peace.Love.Unity.

[Violent Gnome]

Originally posted by Dynasty_PB


Hahaha. Please tell me your not talking about a Gibson Les Paul neck. Because it probably has one of the fastest necks in the world. It has proven by becoming the offcial guitar of the worlds fastest music, Punk Rock!

Peace.Love.Unity.

when did punk become the fastest music in the world?

[Mokushi Faitaa]

ugh... Les pauls are not known for their speedy necks. and punk is not fast. I'm talking about Shredding and alternate picking. not downstroking a 2 not power chord as fast as you can.

listen to some other music.

Jackson's are known for their necks and their upper fret access.


U.S.A B.C Rich, ESP, and Jackson all have more comfortable necks with jumbo fret wire and a flatter radius. They are way superior to the over priced LEs Paul. Les paul is known for their Thick tone. pUnkers don't use Les Pauls anyway...what the hell are you talking about? Real punks use pawn shop strats and cheap *** loud as hell amplifiers cranked to 11.

The fastest music is Classical, and Speed and Thrash Metal. Get it right. sure some punk has an extremely fast tempo...but the guitar work doesn't require that you need a fast playing neck. I respect a punk guitarist that knows he's really not any good. not one that talks about how great his gear is and how awesome Tom Delonge (or whoever) is. Leave the gear talk to the Blues and MEtal players.

I'd never buy a new Gibson....sure they're handmade in the U.S.A ....by first year Wood Shop students. Their quality has gone downhill ever since they made all those lawsuits that stopped ESP, Ibenhad (ibanez) and JAckson from producing better more playable versions of their Explorer, SG and Les Paul models.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Originally posted by Violent Gnome


when did punk become the fastest music in the world?


The day yngwie malmsteen puts out a cover of Anarchy in the U.K is the day punk becomes the fasted music in the world. muahahahha that would be hilarious.

[Dynasty_PB]

Well i can tell you know so much about punk, as you consider Tom Delong a punk guitarist. Have you ever herd the casulaties and if you are talking about pick work Bad Religion, Social D, Excedrin? All those peopel who say Van Halen has the fastest guitar solos in the world has obviously never herd any of Brett Guriwetz's stuff.

Peace.Love.Unity

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Van halen sucks. he's a ***** that can Tap. I can play faster than him with my ****.

[Killer Kat]

Originally posted by KOTOWA
How is the les paul? Why does everybody like em. I like em, and i dont know why, its just a feeling i got.

Exactly! It is all about the feel, along with the sound. And that in turn feeds back around into the feel.
Les Paul have a rich warm "woman tone" and they sustain forever. The only problem is they weigh a lot, but that where the sustain and warmth comes from.

As far as speed and Les Paul's, I'd put Gary Moore up against anybody on any other kind of axe. He'd smoke 'em all! The guy rips, but can come right back the next riff and make ya cry with sweet soft soulful leads, again it's all feel!

Here again is my Les Paul (sitting, waiting for me to pick it up and let it sing alittle too!)

[Dynasty_PB]

Les Paul have a rich warm "woman tone" and they sustain forever

Woman tone, Whatttttttt ?!?!??!?!?!??!?!. lol You rite they have the warmest tone around and they never go bad. I love th feal of mine, Its just so beutiful and the sound it puts out is incredible, it just warns me up inside as rip through some power chords, and then it wakes me up as i work the solo.God i love that guitar, I think Im gona have to join LPA (Les Paul Anonymous)

Peace.Love.Unity.

Oh and by the way, I wish my girl had the feal of that guitar lol j/k

[KOTOWA]

Originally posted by Dynasty_PB
Well i can tell you know so much about punk, as you consider Tom Delong a punk guitarist. Have you ever herd the casulaties and if you are talking about pick work Bad Religion, Social D, Excedrin? All those peopel who say Van Halen has the fastest guitar solos in the world has obviously never herd any of Brett Guriwetz's stuff.

Peace.Love.Unity

hehe, tom delonge can only play power chords, he sucks.

[Dynasty_PB]

hehe, tom delonge can only play power chords, he sucks

hehe Hell yea, thats why the Guitar Songs for Beginers book is also know as Blink-182's greatest hits.

Peace.Love.Unity

[Violent Gnome]

Originally posted by Dynasty_PB
All those peopel who say Van Halen has the fastest guitar solos in the world has obviously never herd any of Brett Guriwetz's stuff.

Peace.Love.Unity

and the people who say brett's the fastest probably haven't heard much John Petrucci, Yngwie Malmsteen, Eric Friesen or Michael Angelo

[Letchworth40]

I have to say Yngwie Malmsteen is the fastest. Most of his songs are impossible to tab unless you had like a month to figure it out.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

you guys do realize that "woman tone" is not a bad thing. and besides...your amplifier is what produces about 90 percent of the tone anyway. I didn't mean to upset anyone that likes the les paul tone...its just something people have to realize...the MEtal Guitars are faster and easier to play. JAckson's are the best guitar for the money you can get. Gibson's are overpriced imo. I really don't like them. my friend has a Gibson Black Beauty and it was uncomfortable for me. I liked its clean tone..but that's not really a worry of mine. i'm mostly a lead player...my guitar needs to scream as if it escaped teh 8th circle of hell.

[KOTOWA]

An Acoustic ONLY gibson, cost more than 1k.

The cheapest GIBSon les paul ive seen so far, 599 at musicians friend. flame top i think.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

jesus christ how can we let this thread go to the 2nd page!!!!


guitarists! you should be ashamed!

here's some eye candy for all us 6 stringers!

[KOTOWA]

WE CANT LET THIS DROP AGAIN!@!!!!

[Mokushi Faitaa]

I know...long live the guitar thread!!!! ARGH!

here's a nice soloist made out of Koa. Koa is amazing sounds like Mahogony but with a little more bite...perfect tone wood.

and those flame inlays go for 1000 dollars MSRP alone. This is one sweet axe.

[KOTOWA]

It only has one pickup! HAHAH!!!! Kinda reminds me of Tom Delonge, Power Chord extrordinair.

[KOTOWA]

HA!!! AND IF THATS A VOLUME KNOB!!!! ITS TOM DELONGES REPLACEMENT FOR THE STRAT!!!!!!!!

[mikek2111987]

uhh......those flames are sweet looking. i want this (http://marsmusic.com/store/product_template.jhtml?catid=&prodid=12940&primarySkuId=11280) strap and the same flame job on my bass. Then it will be cool lookin.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

don't be a jack a s s. Tom Delonge wouldn't know the tone difference between a slab of concrete and Bolivian Rosewood. the purchaser of that custom guitar obviously knows what he wants...and a neck pickup is not essential evidently. probably a rhythmn guitarist ala megadeth or iron maiden style. anyway here's another for your enjoyment..ridicule whatever...the god of all guitars...the Rhoads flying V in Mahogony!

[KOTOWA]

nothing bad about the guitar
just brought it up, its an awesome guitar.

heres some jacksons.

[KOTOWA]

I had to post this. the tom delonge interview with guitar.com

Tom Delonge: The trick to being hummably heavy.


Punk rock has never been a forum for musical virtuosity. Historically, many bands have been more concerned with drinking enough booze and insulting the right people than with constructing dynamic songs or performing with any sort of precision. Of course there are exceptions -- Fugazi (who don't even drink), Bad Religion, Pennywise, and now Blink 182. What's most surprising about Blink is how they manage to play at such hyper-sonic speeds, yet retain all the melody and mirth of Cheap Trick. We recently sat down with guitarist Tom Delonge to discuss songwriting, influences and gear.

Guitar.com: Soundwise, your influences are pretty clear -- Descendents, Bad Religion, Pennywise -- but at the same time, you have your own voice. How do you usually put songs together?

Delonge: I have my own way of formulating songs. Usually I come up with a guitar part, and I try to get a sense for how the song sounds and feels emotionally. You don't want to have an aggressive song if you're writing about flowers. So I try to see where the lyrics are going, and I'll work with it from there. And a lot of times, I'll have something I want to say. I'll plug in a guitar and start saying it and it comes out perfect. But that doesn't happen that many times. When it does, it usually turns out to be one of the better songs on the record. But most of all, I have things I want to write about and I match them up with songs I'm working on musically, and I go from there. But it's kind of a long process because we throw away a lot of stuff. We really work on them and try to get them the best they can be.

Guitar.com: What are you striving for with your guitar parts?

Delonge: I just want it to sound different. I think of every part of a song as a different part of a guitar, as well as on bass and drums. I personally try to make every part of the song sound different from each other and do different things. I really don't want to sound like we're just doing power chords all the time. I want to do guitar riffs, and whatever different sounds I can make. Everything is its own instrument.

Guitar.com: Who are you inspired by?

Delonge: There are a lot of punk bands I'm inspired by. The Descendents by far, but there are all these other bands that have come up with great riffs -- Screeching Weasel, Propaghandi, NOFX. Lately I've also been inspired by Jimmy Eat World and Far.

Guitar.com: You play really fast rhythms, but you give them a smooth, fluid feel. It's heavy, yet it's totally hummable.

Delonge: I try to do that. We try to have songs with a lot of energy. I've always been a fan of stuff that's fast and aggressive, but that you can listen to and sing along with. I think that's good for kids that don't really listen to punk rock, too, because maybe we can open up some doors to some heavier stuff.

Guitar.com: Your playing is surprisingly tight.

Delonge: We try. I think a lot of punk bands just aren't good musicians, and that goes for a lot of bands, metal bands or whatever. We kind of grew as a band, and luckily we're able to play tight together. We want to come off as a professional act. A lot of bands don't. When we were touring small venues in front of 50 people a night, we weren't tight at all. We didn't care. We would drink and **** off and yell at the crowd, and we didn't even care when we started or ended. But now we do because there are a lot of people watching us and we don't want people to think we're ****ty.

Guitar.com: Can you describe your guitar set up?

Delonge: In the studio we use a whole bunch of different things. We use three amps at the same time all the time, and then double back. But live, I use two amps. I use a Marshall JCM 900 and a Mesa/Boogie, and I run them stereo. And I play them really loud. I have like 250 watts going.

Guitar.com: What about your guitars?

Delonge: I play Stratocasters. I have one humbucker, no other pickups, no other knobs, just the volume knob. I have these Fenders made custom. They have '70s headstocks and Spurzell locking tuners, and I play out of an Invader pickup, which is like Seymour Duncan's loudest pickup. And I take out all the electronics so it's louder as well.

Guitar.com: Do you use standard tuning?

Delonge: Yeah standard tuning, but we capo up to F Sharp on a couple songs like "What's My Age Again?" and "Going Away to College" so Mark can sing in a higher key.

Guitar.com: What are your string gauges?

Delonge: I use Ernie Ball -- .10 - .52.

Guitar.com: Are you a fan of effect pedals?

Delonge: Nope. No pedals or anything. I keep it clean, straight through the amp. I have a paranoia of that stuff. Pedals and that stuff just decreases the sound of the guitar. It just cuts everything in half. The more electronics you run through it, by the time your guitar signal gets to your amp it sounds all fallen and ****ty.

Guitar.com: Any tips for people inspired by your sound?

Delonge: You just have to stay passionate and really believe in what you're doing. If you stay focused, it will happen. As long as you really try hard and be patient it will happen. You can't expect it to happen overnight. It took us almost eight years to get to this point. -- Jon Wiederhorn

[Mokushi Faitaa]

what an idiot...if he knew how to use his effects loop of his amplifiers he wouldn't have the problem of losing the guitars sound ARGH Tom Delonge pisses me off! newsflash tom...you're not a good musician either! Basically what he said is...I keep my guitar simple because i"m too lame to bother with a tone knob or a pickup selector switch. I'm sorry but having an extra pickup and a tone , volume and a selector switch is not going to interfere with the guitar's sound. what a ****. If I got near that guy I'd put a death grip on his throat and head butt him until his brains splattered out his ears.

[KOTOWA]

I EVEN TOOK OUT THE ELECTRONICS, WHICH MAKES IT LOUDER!!!!

Question, any way i can get mesaboogie amps online, or do i have to call them?

[Mokushi Faitaa]

mesa boogie doesn't allow their venders to Sell online..you have to Call or go to a store to pick one up. Same goes for Bogner and Diezal and a whole slew of the High'end tube amplifiers.

[KOTOWA]

Damn, I need a tab for the intro the the spyderman version of what were all about. the song sucks, but the intros pretty cool.

[cardbordwarrior]

my electric is a peavy raptor plus and my accoustic is a texarkana(or sumtin like that). i love the color on the peavey, its like a dark dark purplish charcoal

[KOTOWA]

Originally posted by KOTOWA
Damn, I need a tab for the intro the the spyderman version of what were all about. the song sucks, but the intros pretty cool.

Up, help plesE!!!

[Mokushi Faitaa]

I'd help but, I have no idea what that song is. or where to find tab...somepeople probably do though. I'm not a big fan of tab hence why I don't know anything about where to find it.

[PaintKiller]

try http://www.ultimate-guitar.com

[Mokushi Faitaa]

I decided to post a crap load of pictures of guitars that can be had by anyone for less than 1000 dollars...some even less than 500. this first bath is all ESP here we go!

[Mokushi Faitaa]

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[Mokushi Faitaa]

that one was an EC-300 here's a Kelly Hayes Sig. model..little more expensive cool graphic though.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

and here's teh Stephan Carpenter (deftones guitarist) sig model..very very nice.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Here's a bass for yall bass playa's the Tom Araya Sig model...very evil. pentagrams for inlays and it says "slayer" at the 12th fret.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

here's an EC-1000 if you dig Heavy Metal and love the Les Paul...this Axe is definately for you. Neck thru, dual EMG-81 pickups. 24 frets on that quilted maple top (available in black too w/gold hardware) This axe can be yours for about 750 dollars. amazing price for such a high end instrument.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

Here's a guitar fromt eh F series guitars by ESP kind of a super-strat shape possessed by El Diablo! RAR! not bad at all.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

in respect to the new Star Wars film coming out..check out these sub 1000 dollar special edition guitars. They're fernandes models. I have no idea how they play. but they're fun anyway.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

the stormtroooper version.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

ok Now on to Jackson...these are the imported jackson models that are Great for any beginner. this one is the DKMG.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

WRMG warrior model.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

the RR3 I own this guitar in Black. I've also switched out the pickups for EMG pickups. PLays very nicely...I love it I think we've bonded. I have money down on an RR-1 which is the handmade version its going to cost me 1,200 I"ll post a pic of it next...I cannot wait to get it!

[Mokushi Faitaa]

ok so much for the "affordable" guitars..here's some that you "find" ways to purchase. Its called, "going into debt" Here's my soon to be RR-1 snow-white w/black bevels. Ebondy Fretboard..original floyd rose. Seymore Duncan Pikcups. ooh la la.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

lastly for tonights.. My brother is about to order this Y2KV model..he's contemplating between this natural mahogony finish or the Transparent Red (its a dark red..not bright fire engine red).

[KOTOWA]

Good ol elvis playing Kats tele in Kats amp place. IN 3D!!! NO 3d GLASSES REQUIRED!!!

[Mokushi Faitaa]

hmmm you know there really should be an all out "music" thread that instead of people arguing about what kind of music is better than another...people could ask us musicians or we musicians could ask eachother questions. If you've got questions about theory I can probably come up with a decent answer for yah. and I won't bite your head off if its stupid...there are no stupid questions.

[KOTOWA]

Ok, up.

So far, ive decided to get an Iceman, if i cant find anything other than an IC300, its gonna be an IC300. Im gonna decorate it and crap, its gonna be sweet. Hard to find a color other than black, but it doesnt really matter.

Heres a pic.

[Mokushi Faitaa]

you're taking the whole system of a down thing a little far arent you?

[kento]

maybe you guys can help me. I'm really trying to get my hands on an angel, and I'm gonna let the les paul go. If you know of anyone, lmk. It's an epiphone les paul custom, black/gold hardware, bout 8 months old, has new pickups, a JB50 in the neck, JB59 in the bridge. Looking for older led's or lcd's...thanks fellas...

[Killer Kat]

Post it over in non-paintball traders forum to start , and adding some pic's always helps~KK

[kento]

...yeah, I just did...I'll take some pics tonight...thanks KK...

[ME]

hello guys i posted in here a real long time ago about maybe trading my Yamaha Bass and Laney Amp (w/gig bag and tuner)

Anyone at all interested
i can post pics for any serious inquiries
Thanks
Rich

[TippmannFreak98]

i gotz 3 guitars, Gibson SG Voodo. I put little thunderbolts on the fret board ( on 3 5 12 7 and such such ) to be a little more like angus. A fender stratocaster i put a flame pick guard on it purrty cheap, and a sun light acoustic guitar. i have a POD thingy, the 20+ guitar amps you can choose from and play.

[kevinbo03]

played for six years, have a les paul, roland strat, roland V-8, marshall 50 watt, and my beloved Martin.


EDIT: Cant forget my Ibanez fret flyer;)

and also belive me the roland VG-8 and the roland ready strat are WELL worth the money.

[Micewheelz72]

I've got a Fender jazz bass waiting for me at the music shop. My ibanez crapped out on me, it just wasnt cutting it.

Whats your favorite color for guitars? I like a nice deep red

[ruconfused3]

I love the guitar.
Guitar and paintball for life

[kevinbo03]

Originally posted by PaintKiller
I need a mini amp (pig amp) or something smaller I have a 60w tube amp thats my dads.
but I dont want to use it all the time I need a smaller one to.
what kind should I get?
I am not looking to spend much.


get a fender mini amp. I bought one that runs off batteries and is a one watt(talk about insane wattage!!:rolleyes: ). Its actually got some good noise for its size and run me about $35. you can also go to radioshack and get a power adapter for like 5 and then it can plug into the wall

:tup:

[wiseguy360]

Bump for a good thread.

I'm building a guitar right now.

And starting to write my own CD.

[kevinbo03]

Originally posted by wiseguy360
Bump for a good thread.

I'm building a guitar right now.

And starting to write my own CD.

Ha, no kidding? I made a guitar few years ago, And I'm in the process of redoing the finish.

[paintedmonkey16]

my good friend has a 1965 gibson hummingbird...she got a quote and they estimated about 15,000 or something close to it....but im a bass player myself...but i was just curiuus, anyone ever heard opf this guitar?

[Killer Kat]

Yes! They are one of the earlier acoustic guitars Gibson ever made.
Your friend is somewhat off on it's value though.

http://www.epinions.com/content_165936008836

[FalloutMan]

just starting to learn myself accually got an epiphone les paul standard at the moment, thinking of accually building a prototype guitar of an idea i had based on the sgs overall shape

[paintedmonkey16]

Originally posted by Killer Kat
Yes! They are one of the earlier acoustic guitars Gibson ever made.
Your friend is somewhat off on it's value though.

http://www.epinions.com/content_165936008836

shes not a liar, so i bet i just heard wrong...lol


its all good though, i love to play on it though, plays like jesus

[Killer Kat]

I didn't mean that to sound like she was lying! Maybe just alittle confounded. Who knows it could have belonged to someone famous, or someone special in her life.

I know, I've got things you could buy at a Wal-mart that belonged to my Grandfather, I wouldn't sell them for a million dollars!

[Feralboy]

I just bought my Epiphone Les Paul Standard a few months back. Love the guitar. The sound quality is magnificant. The weight is a little heavy for some, but I think it's fine. It's playability is mind boggling. Plus, I got the "Heritage sunburst" finish. It is absolutely gorgeous. Well worth the extra 100$. Wish it said Gibson on it, just for prestige, but the fact it was made in Asia doesn't detract from how great of a guitar it is. I'm actually playing it as I type this :P.

[Killer Kat]

Sorry to be a tease Feral
Originally posted by Killer Kat
This be me with Lester!
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=161390

[Feralboy]

Originally posted by Killer Kat
Sorry to be a tease Feral

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=161390

Yeah? Well...Well...'er...Thats a really ugly shirt!

sorry. That was uncalled for. Brilliant guitar, by the way :P