B.L. millenium body?

[Paint Bulley]

You can get those for spyders right?

what is the point of buying the body? why not buy the hole gun?
when you buy the body wouldn't you then need to buy a new barrel, and everything else that goes inside. and would a regulator you already had fit on it? and how much is the price?

Just give me all the info you got on this and you would be much appreciated.

THanks a lot,
BUlley


oh and if you got that would you stay in the kingman forum or go to the bob long forum?

[big ugly spyder]

all u need for it is a larger striker and then u can put ur stuff in the body all they are are larger and flashier and vert feed i am pretty sure that they are spyder barrel threaded

[Paint Bulley]

some people say don't do it because the blowback is worse with a straight feed. If that is true why would someone buy the whole gun not just the body? wouldn't the same be true?

[Hsuve]

Originally posted by Paint Bulley
You can get those for spyders right?

what is the point of buying the body? why not buy the hole gun?
when you buy the body wouldn't you then need to buy a new barrel, and everything else that goes inside. and would a regulator you already had fit on it? and how much is the price?

Just give me all the info you got on this and you would be much appreciated.

THanks a lot,
BUlley


oh and if you got that would you stay in the kingman forum or go to the bob long forum?
Yes. The body is cheaper (About $60) than the whole Millenium (Not sure, but I believe it's around $200...). No, you can move the barrel over. It still uses Spyder barrel threads. If you're switching from a compact style body (Many people do), you'll need a larger style striker, a larger style striker buffer, and a larger style velocity adjuster. If you get a compact Millenium body, you can move your compact style vertical adapter over, if you use one. If you get a standard style Millenium body and you're using a compact style body, you'll need a standard Spyder vertical adapter, in addition to the striker, striker buffer, and velocity adjuster. I don't believe the compact Millenium bodies are still made, as I heard they stopped some long time ago, but I'm unsure about that subject. Yes, your regulator would fit, if you got a standard style vertical adapter. As for blowback, I don't see how a vertical feed would have a much worse effect than straight, but there might be a slight difference, due to angling and such.

[Paint Bulley]

Originally posted by Hsuve
As for blowback, I don't see how a vertical feed would have a much worse effect than straight, but there might be a slight difference, due to angling and such.

Alloleader asked a question similar to this and lots of people including you (I think) said the blowback was bad, and you would stay with a powerfeed. can you explain?

[Hsuve]

Hmmmmm... I can't really say if blowback is bad or not, I'm pretty sure I said that you may experience blowback with a feed tube such as straight or vertical.

[AllOleander]

Blowback isn't necessary bad, but it can mess up the feeding any make you chop... so indirectly, its bad cause it causes it to chop :)

[Paint Bulley]

then I'm confused.

I thought (must be wrong from what you have said) that blowback was the air pushing the striker back. But when doing this air also goes out the bolt and pushes the ball back up into the hopper (then sometimes you get jamms, if you pull the trigger while it's going up.)

Am I completely wrong?

I thought that because it you have a couple balls down your feed but no hopper on when you pull the trigger, sometimes one will shoot up and out.

Teach me.

I've learned so much on this forum and I'm still so stupid.

[Hsuve]

Nah, you're not stupid at all... The type of marker than requires air to push the hammer back to recock is called a blowback marker. However, blowback can also refer to air blown up the feed tube. That can cause problems. If you break a ball, and you have blowback, it'll push the broken shells up into your hopper, and may jam it and such.

[Paint Bulley]

Other than the purpose of blowback, how can more or the normal blowback ever be good. and if it isn't good, than blowback is or would be bad.

Is that why non blow back guns are better? oh and are there electric blow backs?

[Hsuve]

No, no, no. Blowbacks are not the only guns with blowback. 'Mags (Blowforwards...) have blowback, which is why the majority of people rather go with powerfeed than straightfeed. And yes, there are electros that are blowbacks. The Impulse is a blowback. Many electros work similar, but rather instead of air recocking them, they use a ram, or such. Blowback is not good, blowback guns are fine. Get what I'm saying?

[Paint Bulley]

Yeah I finally understand thanks.

NEw question then......

why is a bob long millenium better that a spyder (or at least the body wise) or is it?

THanks

[Hsuve]

Personally, I don't think it is...

[PiranhaPro]

People like them because they are anno'd cool colors, vert feed, and use the fatty parts. You can run them on pretty low pressure.

[Hsuve]

Slim strikered Spyders can run pretty low as well. VomusY (From PBN...) claims he can cycle his gun at around 175PSI (Not positive, but pretty sure he's using the slim style striker...). I doubt that, but I dunno, he's usually an honest person... His guess is that the velocity would be horrible, as he never actually shot anything at 175PSI...

[big ugly spyder]

i no of a few markers that shoot at that low pressure impy shocker and novas and the impy is blowback and vert feed so i aint sure.

[PiranhaPro]

What the heck are you talking about?

Theres more LP guns than just those 3...