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WonderLlama
08-12-2003, 11:58 AM
Ive known that the RT was not be tourney legal for some time, and when I actually saw one in action I became puzzled. The guy using it had it all the way up and was shooting at a pretty good bps. Lets me use it, I get it going a little faster, hand it to my friend (who has very twitchy fingers) he rips on it. Though that was pretty damn fast, the same friend proceeds to take out his angel and match then surpass the RT's bps. So with events of the like; such as Chris Lasoya putting 14 balls in someones face and wasting him. I mean all it does is equal the ROF of these high end guns (only ours have a serious fps bleed of when it gets that fast.
Thanks for hearing me out.

willpill
08-12-2003, 12:02 PM
um. tourney rule is one shot per triggger pull

and if your fast. well.. your fast. to bad

but then RT is really bending the rule.

its mostly for rec play.

and how cna someone get it faster than other on the RT? are you all changing the settings. cuase itll be the same speed no moatter who does it unless the air to the RT is adjusted

WonderLlama
08-12-2003, 12:08 PM
The faster the you pull the trigger, the faster you shoot. In addition, the RT resets the trigger reactively responding to your initial trigger pull; one pull - one shot. I can seem automatic, but its just shooting fast, and as I said; Ive seen faster on Tourney legal guns. Most tourney players are actualy compelled to fire as fast as possible.

willpill
08-12-2003, 01:20 PM
dont you hold down the rt?

o well.

and well. i cant think of a good example in this kind of situation

WonderLlama
08-12-2003, 02:39 PM
No, well there is a sweet spot; but thats on almost any blowback.

willpill
08-12-2003, 04:04 PM
huh??????

a spyder compact is a blowback.. i never hear of sweet spots on it

The Kampfer
08-12-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by WonderLlama
No, well there is a sweet spot; but thats on almost any blowback.
Interesting...:eyes:

WonderLlama
08-12-2003, 05:49 PM
Its not like its something that you can try to find, its more a glitch - a cool malfuntion that will probably never hapen to you. Regardless, the topic is the RT in tourney games; we should stick to it.

Relentless
08-12-2003, 06:15 PM
rt shouldnt be tourny legal because it is just bounce.

if you can use it, you can use a 18+ bps lectro bouncing WAS...

its practically full auto, so its to easy to get a high bps

bulletbill
08-12-2003, 08:51 PM
it should be tourny legal!!!! the rules for semi auto are one pull=one shot. The rt does that! even with the bouncing and sweet spoting...the trigger is still moving a slight amount back and forth. So the tippy with a rt has a .1 mm pull, big deal..still a pull, it just resets that much faster

snaretan
08-12-2003, 09:29 PM
The rule should (it may have) to say 1 shot per 1 intentional trigger pull. So if you have a hair trigger of less than 1 mm, and blood pulses through your finger and fires the marker... that'd be unintentional. Anyway, it makes RTs illegal... period. Unfortunatly, a great technology comes along and we aren't aloud to use it.


I think the whole structure of PB tournies should be changed.

Yes, keep the pro/amature/novice status, but bring in the different guns that can be used. Here are the classifications I come up with... Stock class(PGPs/Phantoms, not unmoded guns), Pumps, Semi, Open class.

I don't see why this wouldn't work, It's how road course racing works (Not sure what to call that type as a whole). But like Touring cars.

Anyway, in the open class, allow RT, Full auto, anything. Let people who own these things get a chance to use them. Pro teams(and many non pro teams) can shoot cases of paint in one game, lets see how much they go through with full auto (I doubt they'd let off the trigger)

Now, if someone says its a saftey issue when it comes to using full auto and being overshot. I have two arguments.... *cough*Lasoya*cough* and the fact that you'd know what you are getting yourself into. Do you think race car drivers don't know every race they are pushing the line an could die at a moments notice? So if you go into an open class game, you should know that you may be shot a lot (at least it'd be harder to wipe).


Anyway, I'm straying soooo far from topic, so to get back on, I'll leave with this.

RTs are a waste of money until they are legal in places other than your back yard and the few fields that actually DO allow them.

Tan

willpill
08-12-2003, 09:38 PM
but isnt a bounce illegal?

bulletbill
08-12-2003, 09:40 PM
yeah it is......BUT WHY!!!!! its great;)