Would you choose a pump over a semi?

[Rocky]

I know this is kind of a stupid poll but this is my first poll so everyone can at least make one stupid one right? lol

[RedWidow]

Who wouldnt choose a semi, you could get so many more shots of with a semi

[Freakazoid]

You get more shots with a pump, but who wants to pump every time you shoot?

[RedWidow]

Right, I like just pulling the trigger instead of pump then pull the trigger, pump then pull the trigger, pump then pull the trigger, you know what I mean

[rwillia]

RedWidow, most pumps have an autotrigger on them. That means all you have to do is hold the trigger and pump to fire. It increases ROF a little bit, but not much. Anyway, pumps are not about rate of fire.
Also, just because you can shoot faster does not mean you will successfully hit your opponent, does it? Nope. Many people just spray and pray and have stickers on their CO2 and nitrogen tanks that say things such as "One case, one kill." Pretty sad, huh?
Using a pump marker will teach you to be a better player and that is just one reason people buy them.

[CockerKing]

yeah but still what is quicker a little move of the finger or a back and fourth movement of the arm i still say i can get off more shots faster with my cocker than any pump

[Auctionjunkie!]

It's really a question of ROF vs experience. I see a lot of semi players start spraying paint from the start and then not stop until the get elimintaed. I've seen pump players go through 20 balls in a game and eliminate 10 people. It's a matter of stealth and accuracy vs spray and pray. I play both ways. It depends on the game and the players.

Dan
Manager, Team Wiseguys

[TrOy]

I would always use a pump then a semi.. Much more skill! Unfortunately some semis accuracy and distance is getting to close to my pumps... *sighs* I guess I have to buy a dang semi... "No skill to kill" But you can have my pump when you pry it from my cold dead hands! One shot one kill!LOL

[ShortyBP]

I wont say either is better than the other.

Semi play can be more intense, especially with the amount of paint in the air.

Pump play requires more skill and strategy.

For a new player, I always recommend starting off playing pump. By doing so, you will learn so much more, so much faster, than if you were playing semi. Semi leads to "Spray and Pray" tactics... which end up being no good for the most part. Like said above, you also use much less paint playing pump games, which means less money spent.

I own 6 semis, and 4 pumps. Love em all, and have fun playing pump/semi/stock whatever.

shorty

[TrOy]

Here here!!! Ya gotta respect what you have and how to do it!

[blinkpk11]

i prefer pump play over semi simply because there is less over shooting. I hate it when my friends with there angels put 15 balls out in like 1 second and they all hit me.

[TrOy]

It used to be fightworthy if you got hit more then two times by the same person but now with these hyper semiautos getting hit six times is not uncommon! Hey but I gotta say that the paint manufacturers love these people because they are makin a mint off of them!

[Incube]

hmmmm i said semi cz you can get out a round and it is better for both deffence and attacking

[Skull]

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To me pump is the most satisfying way to play paintball. It has the most challenges, and the most rewards. Nothing beats the look on a semi toters face after he sees that u've just nailed him from 100 yards off with a pump. I wouldn't trade that feeling for an angel or cocker or mag, or whatever semi u throw at me.

[TLplus84]

it's like someone sed..it's down to major firepower vs. experience and dead nuts accuracy. The semi can lay down craploads of firepower in no time. BUT the pump has very good accuracy. They both sacrafice one thing, to achieve another. The pump loses rate of fire, but gains accuracy. The Semi, has incredible rates of fire, but loses accuracy..

[Skull]

Good point. I was being hypocriticle by overlooking the pumps downfall in it's rate of fire.

[Edited by Skull on 03-24-2001 at 05:15 PM]

[Awminn]

Why the heck would you want a semi? If you ask me, they're a novelty, not a way of playing. I personally believe if you want to be good at your semi skills, you need to play pump. Pump requires true skills, instead of semis where you can spray and pray and walk your fire to the target. Oh, buy the way, I do own a semi (m-98) but its being retired for a little while.

[Skull]

preach it brotha... preach it

[sven van poppel]

I autotrigger with my phantom 3+bps. It is the most accurate gun and can crank it out for a pump!;)

[sirhc1210]

I think it depends. IF you need to be shooting fast then go for a semi...but if u need acuracy i might go for a pump.

[Hsuve]

Both ways are fun. I like trying new things out, so I've used my decent amount of Phantoms, 'Cockers, 'Mags, and a Shocker. Overall, I'd say both ways are just your choice. Playing with a semi also requires skill, I don't know what you guys are thinking... You don't just waste your paint until your hit somebody, obviously you haven't used one very wisely... I conserve my paint until I see somebody, then sling 5-6 ball at him. If I don't hit him, I sit there for maybe 1 minute seeing if he'll get out of his bunker. If not, I'll try to get a better angle. If I'm taking fire though, I ain't movin', the first thing to figure out is whose shootin' at you and who's got the better angle. In a tournament though, I wouldn't recommend using a pump. While you believe "one shot one kill," there are many that believe in "one case one kill." Thus you'll have a hard time getting out of that bunker and hitting somebody if they believe in "one case one kill," and you're using a pump. A semi will help in those situations as you can quickly snap shoot to make them go behind their bunker, from there just move to get in a better position or somethin'.

[Incube]

Originally posted by Hsuve
Both ways are fun. I like trying new things out, so I've used my decent amount of Phantoms, 'Cockers, 'Mags, and a Shocker. Overall, I'd say both ways are just your choice. Playing with a semi also requires skill, I don't know what you guys are thinking... You don't just waste your paint until your hit somebody, obviously you haven't used one very wisely... I conserve my paint until I see somebody, then sling 5-6 ball at him. If I don't hit him, I sit there for maybe 1 minute seeing if he'll get out of his bunker. If not, I'll try to get a better angle. If I'm taking fire though, I ain't movin', the first thing to figure out is whose shootin' at you and who's got the better angle. In a tournament though, I wouldn't recommend using a pump. While you believe "one shot one kill," there are many that believe in "one case one kill." Thus you'll have a hard time getting out of that bunker and hitting somebody if they believe in "one case one kill," and you're using a pump. A semi will help in those situations as you can quickly snap shoot to make them go behind their bunker, from there just move to get in a better position or somethin'.
omg you always get me on your side man you too smart but anyway if you wanna( imo ) i think semis are better for one reason just that the rate of fire and the idea of if you play good with a pump you ll be better with a semi and semis offer more protection in a heavy fire area if you get stuck in a tight spot you can get off more rounds! and its better than haveing to pump like nuts to get out of a tight spot

[fenris69]

the old argument pumps are more accurate than semis falls flat nowdays...no longer true. more accurate than a vm-68 , 68 special or maybe an F1 but not than a cocker, mag angel etc... when people have semis they fire reflexively, and walk to the target, with pumps you NEED to aim that first shot. thats the diff. if you did the same with a semi, well.
most people dont. either way i tend to prefer pump.its more fun for me, plus it makes you move.fieldball is about position, and it forces you to try to maintain the superior position as you really cant blast your way out of a spot.speedball is just fun cause noone wants to get tagged by a pumper. and you can crank some serious ROF out with a trracer and an autotrigger 3+ easy. gotta hold it steady tho :)

[Incube]

Originally posted by fenris69
the old argument pumps are more accurate than semis falls flat nowdays...no longer true. more accurate than a vm-68 , 68 special or maybe an F1 but not than a cocker, mag angel etc... when people have semis they fire reflexively, and walk to the target, with pumps you NEED to aim that first shot. thats the diff. if you did the same with a semi, well.
most people dont. either way i tend to prefer pump.its more fun for me, plus it makes you move.fieldball is about position, and it forces you to try to maintain the superior position as you really cant blast your way out of a spot.speedball is just fun cause noone wants to get tagged by a pumper. and you can crank some serious ROF out with a trracer and an autotrigger 3+ easy. gotta hold it steady tho :)
i agree my m98 its mint accurcy but it looks ugly and breaks alot but the fire rate is ok i get like 10 shots a second with the trigger job! and it hits right on target! if your semi has bad accuracy just buy a new barrel!!!! evryone has there own opinion on this topic pretty much i think it shoud be left alone! IMO

[fate tempter]

I think semi. for me anyway. i was in a lot of fire fights, so i needed to shoot faster. (but i still loved my pump when i had it)

[Incube]

Its pretty much opinion!

[zenmaster]

after playing only stock vs. semi for a year and a half?
I'd have to say pump ^_^
semi is fun, and it's nice being able to provide your own cover every now and then, but the rush isn't there playing semi. Sure, when my team plays, I'll throw paint like it's going out of style if I have to, but it feels nice to spend $8 on paint for a whole day's play once in a while...
besides, giving yourself a MAD handicap like that teaches you to really think and react on the fly, not mention AIMING your shots. which makes you a better player, *regardless* of what gun you end up shooting

[RebelLe]

A pump you'll become a better shoter casue every time u pump u lose sight of the target and your have to reaim

[Paintballer502]

Originally posted by Freakazoid
You get more shots with a pump, but who wants to pump every time you shoot?

bull **** you dont get more shots with a pump i mean thats just stupid if you think that!!

[Paintballer502]

Originally posted by sven van poppel
I autotrigger with my phantom 3+bps. It is the most accurate gun and can crank it out for a pump!;)


theres someone at this place caller paintballmaxx you prob. dont know that cause you prob. dont live near me.and he can shoot 8+bps now thats a lot!

[Hsuve]

8BPS with a pump? LOL!
1. You'd be pumpin' so fast, you couldn't hit jack
2. I totally doubt that...

[P8NTBALL996]

p8ntballer502, i dont know for sure but i know i got a lot more shots out of my pump when i had it, i have a cocker now and i could shoot another 50 paintballs with my pump before running out of air than i can now.

[PhantomAbr]

Ive said it before and Ill say it again...I takes a real solid player to walk onto a field with a handfull of paintballs and play againts a bunch of Super-Semis with a case of paint on their backs, taking them on one by one, and handling them with confidence and precision.

[Incube]

Originally posted by TLplus84
it's like someone sed..it's down to major firepower vs. experience and dead nuts accuracy. The semi can lay down craploads of firepower in no time. BUT the pump has very good accuracy. They both sacrafice one thing, to achieve another. The pump loses rate of fire, but gains accuracy. The Semi, has incredible rates of fire, but loses accuracy..
now adays a semi can be just as acurate a pump if not they can be more just get a berral and stick it on! adjust the volocity do what every ! you can still be accurate with a semi! also look at newer electos witch have killer accuracy think about it youll see what i am saying!

[Hsuve]

Originally posted by PhantomAbr
Ive said it before and Ill say it again...I takes a real solid player to walk onto a field with a handfull of paintballs and play againts a bunch of Super-Semis with a case of paint on their backs, taking them on one by one, and handling them with confidence and precision.
Hand full of paintballs? Only some pumps can carry only a handful of paintballs. The only one I can think of are pump pistols, or the Phantom with the 10-15rnd tube on top. Otherwise, take the Sniper II as an example. You stick a hopper on it, and you have lots of paint. It's doubtful that a skilled player with a pump can take out a skilled player with a "super-semi," as if they keep you down, there ain't no way in hell you can snap shoot 'em. Most of all the people that can afford "super-semis" are those who have guts, or at least the people on my field do... Pump play is very fun, from my experience, however, it's very difficult to compete in these days with a pump...

[PhantomAbr]

I might have worded "a handfull of paintballs" strangely but what I meant is the relative amounts of paint a pump player and a player with an electro shoots. I know that with equal skill, the person with the higher ROF will usually win, depending on the way the game went. However the fact that it does take alot of skill and confidence to play pump vs. semis and super-semis does remain. Yes, you can snapshoot against electros and semis(I know, I do it) but will you always win? Usually not, but then again, who does? And as far as the idea that a person with an electro must be good, I know that I have seen many "kids" come out and play with their Angles and Cockers, without having hardly any skills at all.Sorry for the Mixup!

[davidb]

I'm probably going to be stepping on some toes here, but in my personal opinion, most semis actually have MORE pontential for accuracy than most pumps. Why? There are a lot of reasons. First of all, there's the barrels. Nearly all semis can have their barrels replaced with very high quality aftermarket ones. Second, most semis can have regulators put on them, making them very consistent compared to a pump (most of which run off of CO2, whereas most "super-semis" and even a lot of low end semis have nitro.). Thirdly, there's the "kick". A lot of the high end guns hardly move from shot to shot. A pump on the other hand will only be able to achieve the same shot-to-shot accuracy if you limit yourself to about one shot every two seconds or so, by which time your opponent will have either taken cover or sent a barrage of paint flying at you.

Don't get me wrong, I love pump play too. Some of the most fun games I ever played were running around with my friends with my SL-68 (which I still have) and whooping on my friend with the Stingray (which is one of the exceptions to the above rule).

[paintballer56]

semis are way better

[C-Mac]

I think that playing with a pump against other pumps is the most fun way to play. It is cheaper, there is more movement, and you never get hit by more than a couple shots. However, if I am playing against semis, I definitely want a semi. It is a great feeling to get a semi out with a pump, but I don't like to put myself at a disadvantage. An autotrigger can allow a decent rate of fire, but accuracy goes to hell while using it.

[§PL@_M/\§TÉR]

Dont get me wrong I love my bushmaster 2k but really if I spray 500 balls(not that many considering I know a guy who shoots about 900 on rec ball) a game for 2 kills what would be less satisfying then shooting 50 balls and getting two kills with my old splat-master and pissing you off cuz I just shot you with a $20.00 dollar gun and about 2 bucks worth of paintballs and probally 2 12grams(depending on weather) or $1. a good way to compare the two are chess and checkers ones fast and alittle more simple with lots of killing the other is slow and more strategic with just as much killing lol