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BlueDemon
08-31-2001, 01:23 PM
i do not own a cocker, yet. and i really want one. but before i get one, i would like to know How exactly does an autococker work? what is "timing" the trigger? what is the best year for the autococker, becuz i want a good one so would you recommend a 1999, 2000, or 2001. thanks
-BLUE DEMON
ShadowKi][er
08-31-2001, 02:31 PM
Right, i'll start from the bottom :). Don't know how much you know about htem so i'll try to be like somebody teaching a 2 year old.
The 2000 & 2001 Cockers are almost the same, just some VERY minor upgrades like the shroud (the black grip thing covering the hoses,ram & stuff). I would recomend a Vertical Feed 2001 Cocker.
How does an Autococker work?
An Autococker is basically a pump gun that cocks itself. Hence the name Autococker! Some basic know how here... anyway now to get to the nitty gritty. As with any paintball marker, the Autococker has similarities and differences to every other gun in the market. It is closed bolt, which means it fires the paintball when the bolt is fully forward and stationary (as in a pump gun). However, for those of you who have pump guns will realize, when you look at the internals of the cocker, you will notice that the valve system is completely different from that of a Ranger, Spitfire, Tracer, etc. Rather than having the hammer strike a valve that sits at the rear of the gun, it has a hammer that strikes a valve located in the front of the gun. This is actually quite ingenious for an autococking system as the forward motion of the hammer is counteracted upon by the rearward motion of the cocking cycle. This is my theory of why the Autococker has such a stable shooting platform (that and the weight of a tricked out cocker is relatively high... adding to the stability). Now that we have established the similarities and differences of the autococker to the pump gun, we will compare it to the standard blowback semi. The Autocockers hammer is relatively the same as that of a blowback semi, as is the valve. The hammer moves forward, striking the valve in both guns. The main difference is that the Autococker has separated the action of the bolt and the hammer (these are connected in a blowback semi) and also that of the re-cock. Instead of using gas to directly blow back the striker (aka hammer), the Autococker utilizes a pneumatic cylinder (AKA ram) to push back a block (AKA backblock) which pulls back a rod connected to the hammer (AKA cocking rod) which cocks the gun. This eliminates a much hated seal... the striker o-ring. Obviously, the elimination of this exhaust used to cock the gun lowers the volume level in the firing cycle, making the autococker relatively quieter than a blowback (there are those who would dispute this). How does this cocking system work? Well its actually relatively simple. There is a 4-way valve (yes... Ravi was right... it has 1 input, 2 outputs, and an exhaust... plus pneumatic catalogs refer to them as 4-way's so take it that way) which takes regulated air (usually from the Palmer's Rock or ANS Jackhammer) and channels it to either end of a pneumatic cylinder (ram). When in forward position, the valve sends gas to the back of the ram, bringing the cylinder arm forward. The valve is actuated by a rod connected to the trigger plate (which slides back and forth rather than pivoting) and when the trigger is pulled a certain distance, the valve switches and sends gas to the front of the ram, sending the cylinder arm out. Quite confusing but if you look at this diagram, you will see how simple it really is.
Here's the diagram mentioned above
http://www.pagestorm.com/wgpog/images/animated-autococker.gif .
fleaf
08-31-2001, 02:31 PM
obviously, in any gun model, the latest release would probably be your best bet since they have cured all the imperfectities it was carying beforehand. So, basically, try to get a 2001.
Go here it's an animated diagram and it helped me a little in seeing how the autococker works... http://www.joinme.net/vantrepes/anitmated.htm (Assuming that you know the parts of an autococker) The timing is where when you pull on the trigger, the hanner is released and the air is released out from the valve into the bolt propelling the ball. AT the same time, when you are about half way through your trigger pull the 3 way is opened and the pressure pushes the back block and essentially recocks the gun...Hope I helped, if I didn't I'm sorry, look at the animated diagram and maybe you can figure out what I am saying...
fleaf
08-31-2001, 02:32 PM
haha, oops, guess I was a little late on this one :)
ShadowKi][er
08-31-2001, 02:37 PM
at least you beat me in the "what is timing" question :). A victory, however small.
vantrepes
08-31-2001, 10:59 PM
Here is a labeled diagram of a cocker. www.joinme.net/vantrepes/diagram
It may help some.
Also, take a look at: www.joinme.net/vantrepes/timing covers how to time a cocker. Your first time trying, have someone help you, just to make sure everything is working correctly, after that, it's easy.
pbmstr
09-01-2001, 10:35 AM
dude get a vert feed their like 3 30$ or something at www.acepaintball.com thats hella cheap
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