my mag broke

[SIGSays]

my mag broke help!! what to do....... i dunno what is wrong with it and i don't wanna use a start but i gass it up and then when i pull the trigger nothing happens...... what could be wrong

[blake_sw]

Have you checked all the internals? Make sure nothing is leaking, there's no broken o-rings, NUTTIN.
My Mill once didn't fire, all it needed was oil :P

[Magadeth]

Sig-
Have you cleaned it recently?

Have you adjusted the trigger rod?

Is the tank full?

Is your sear or on/off pin worn?

[Halliday]

Yes, is the tank full? Try a friend's tank.

Where is the velocity nut? Mess with it, turning it in.

[SIGSays]

i didn't touch anything on the insde and the internals should be fine and this is the new minimag so maybe it was doa (dead on arrival??) i dunno i can't figure it out, i checked everthing and one thing is leaking but i am fixing it and it a real small leak

[SIGSays]

i just fixed the leak with teflon tape haha and still nothing works................ it gasses up then......... the trigger doesn't do anything and when i pull the trigger nothing, it moves just as if it was gassed........ please help

[blake_sw]

Umm....is the safety on??

[SIGSays]

i'm not that dumb yet...... and i went back to check the video, i only took the gun out of the box and put the box away, and when i took the video out of the box it was all cracked and it wasn't even the right video....... it's a automag rt video...... what is this?? first they send me the wrong gun then they send me a broken gun and the wrong video.............

[SIGSays]

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[Magadeth]

It sounds like the tank is almost empty. Have you tried another, recently filled tank yet?
If you have, and are sure that the tank is not the problem, remove the guns air source and undo the field strip screw. Pull the trigger and then pull the valve body out a bit and then push down on the hose fitting so that it turns a bit and then pull the valve body out of the gun.

Inspect the bolt spring and make sure that it is not bent or misshaped. Replace if you need to.
pull the bolt out of the power tube and make sure that it moves freely back and forth in the tube. Clean out any obstruction.

If this does not work, the trigger could be misadjusted. Check the trigger thread for info on that. If your sear is not releasing the bolt you may need to adjust the trigger rod.
DO This only as a last resort! AND DEFINATELLY TRY A DIFFERENT TANK FIRST!

[flyingdeadbody1]

yeah it really sounds like the tank is empty. even when the gun isnt gassed up and the tank is empty, there can still be some air in the hose/hoses that will return the trigger when you pull it. try a different tank, and/or fill-up your tank.

[SIGSays]

well the tank is kind of full it's at 1,000 on the gauge cuz the tard at the field store ran out of n2 while filling my tank and he just gave me a half full tank for free.... do you think it would be the tank?

[flyingdeadbody1]

is the tank screwed in or is the on/off valve on the tank on??? did you hear a click when you gassed up your gun???

[SIGSays]

i am sure it's getting gassed up and i have owned mags before............ there is no clicking noise

[flyingdeadbody1]

unscrew the tank and screw it back on. is there a clicking noise when the bolt cocks back?

[SIGSays]

it doesn't click and nothing happens when i gas it up, the bolt doesn't move...... nothing i don't understand and there are no leaks

[banzaimf]

Does the trigger pull feel all soft and squishy? I love that feeling... anyways. Check 2 things. The output pressure on your tank. You want at LEAST 600 even with a low tank (output). secondly, if that is working all right crank up the velocity on the back velocity nut.

most important

if the trigger feels soft and squishy... it is an airflow problem. do NOT mess with the trigger in that case.


banzaimf

[Magadeth]

how is the air getting to the gun? Do You use a remote or cradle with on off? Do you have an external reg?(A reg is not needed on the mag as it has its own) Try screwing a tank directly onto the vertical adapter that came stock with your gun.

The only reason your gun would not make a click sound when you gass it up is if there is not enough pressure to cause the valve to gas up and shut. This is sounding more and more like it is not a problem with the gun. If you have a lot of aftermarket junk on it, get rid of it and try it out in the stock configuratuion.

[Halliday]

My money is on a problem with the tank. You need to switch tanks with a bud and see what happens.

[SIGSays]

i tried putting it in the vert adapter before but it didn't work and i tried the tank on my model 98 and it worked perfectly and now i can't use my vert adapter cuz i screwed in a kapp gas though foregrip and i was putting a macroline into it with some sort of wrench and it's stuck now and i can't get it out so i can't use it anyway...........

[Magadeth]

Originally posted by SIGSays
i tried putting it in the vert adapter before but it didn't work and i tried the tank on my model 98 and it worked perfectly and now i can't use my vert adapter cuz i screwed in a kapp gas though foregrip and i was putting a macroline into it with some sort of wrench and it's stuck now and i can't get it out so i can't use it anyway...........

Sig, I hate to say this and please dont take it the wrong way, but after reading a few of your other posts about the gun, I dont think you should do your own work on it.

It sounds like you may have crossthreaded the adapter, not good.
You bought a reg for it? Completely not needed.

Adding Macroline instead of the stock steel braided is a step down in quality.

I wish you lived closer to me, I would swing out and check your setup for you, I garuntee I could have it running within 5 minutes. As it is it sounds like the guys at your local store ripped you on the price and sold you a reg, so they may not be the greatest to have fix it. If you can find someone you play with that has a mag, or if there is a competing p-ball store to the one where you bought it, bring it to them.

Oh and a couple more thoughts, Check your macroline for obstructions(teflon tape) That could be causeing your problem.

Also, can we get a pick of your mag?

About the video, if you register your gun with agd and request a owners manual and video, they will send you one free of charge. I Strongly urge you to watch the video before attempting to do anything else to your gun.

[SIGSays]

it's all good, i fixed it, i had to go macro cuz the gas through foregrip was too long and it wouldn't clear the d/f, noone ripped me, it was my choice to get the reg, thanks for your time and effort to help me! thanx again and i always buy online and never at the shop....... an spyder xtra is 220 and the same gun online is 169.............

[SIGSays]

or at least i think i fixed it cuz when i gassed it it clicked, woohoo!

then my it would have been loud to shoot it outside cuz it was late at night so i didn't shoot it but i think it works i'll tell you what happens and i'll get you a pic afterschool when the suns up cuz the sunlight help get better pic quality, i got one of thoe crappy logitech cameras, if you got one you'll understand

[Magadeth]

Great to hear it! What was the problem? Just curious.

[Halliday]

Yeah? You can't just say, "Fixed it" and leave. What was wrong?

[SIGSays]

i had a ans quick twist velocity adjuster on my mag but the thing didn't twist in far enough so i put in the stock one and...... i twisted it in and it worked, haha i'm so dumb........ anyway now the gas leaks out of the barrel how do i fix that??

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[banzaimf]

Originally posted by SIGSays
i had a ans quick twist velocity adjuster on my mag but the thing didn't twist in far enough so i put in the stock one and...... i twisted it in and it worked, haha i'm so dumb........ anyway now the gas leaks out of the barrel how do i fix that??

back it out a little... when you get to the field you'll see that you are shooting hot.

banzaimf

[SIGSays]

what do you mean i know what shooting hot it but the ans didn't go in far enough so the gun wasn't getting enough pressure................. now the gun is leaking down the barrel

[Halliday]

It's probally leaking down the barrel b/c of too much pressure.

To fix:

1) Back off the speed knob/screw in the back of the marker. Shoot some paint to make sure there is some pressure. It should be low, but it should still shoot paint.

2) Get a chrony.

3) Shoot over the chrony, with paint in marker to check the speed.

4) To shoot faster, turn 1/4 turn clock-wise. Don't turn more than 1/4 turn MAX at one time! When you get around 250fps, be very carful and use small adjustments.

Clear?

[SIGSays]

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so it's the velocity adjuster??

[Halliday]

Is the velocity adjuster causing it to leak down the barrel? Probally, I bcuz it may be in too tight making the speed high with high pressure.

[Magadeth]

Actually if the gun is overpressured, wouldn't that cause it to leak ot the back as it is designed to?

The main cause of leaking down the barrel as I understand it is a bad seal between the powertube o-ring and the bolt. An aftermarket bolt could cause this as could an improperly sized power tube spacer o-ring.(Is that what it's called? doesn't sound right)

To fix, either re-install the AGD bolt (THE BEST YOU CAN GET) or pick up a spacer kit. As the gun is new I doubt it is the o-ring in the power tube.

[Halliday]

Yes, leak down barrel----------> PT o-ring.

I think it'll be shooting hot and turning it down will help the situation overall.

[Magadeth]

certainly wouldn't hurt to try.

[SIGSays]

i already have a power tube spacer kit and it's not in too tight and i just ran out of n2 so i can't do anything now........ anyway.......... i checked the pt o-ring it's good

[NcicHit]

Maybe you should sell the Mag and get a pump. You have worse luck than I do. It took me a year to get my Rainmaker up and running but now it shoots like a charme. But I like my Micromag a lot better and I use a Palmer's regulator on it with a drop down cradle, ANS venturi bolt, ANS back bolt and a VL 2000. It shoots like a charm. Mags are great.

[SIGSays]

if the gas is leaking down the barrel would i need to get a smaller spacer or get a bigger one?

[Halliday]

Leak down barrel= bigger spacer

It come with a .220 stock. Try the .225 next and keep going up. Get the AGD PT spacer kit NOT the Pro-Team one. AGD's spacers are labeled/stamped. Pro-Team's are color coded and the color can wear off!

[SIGSays]

figured it out if leaks go down farther in size it was .220 i put in the .215 and by bye leak

[Halliday]

Well, I'm pretty sure I remember the instructions the other way......

Oh well, as long as the leaking stopped. :D

[SIGSays]

"quoted from the agd spacer kit"

Begin by installing a .225 spacer in place of your power tube spring. gas up and shoot the marker.
1) if you experience leaking down the barrel, install the next size shorter spacer and retest the marker.
2) if you experience bolt stick, install the next size longer spacer and retest the marker.
if you still have probelems or have any questions, please call our tech line at 847-520-7225

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[Halliday]

Yes. I was thinking of bolt stick. When I bought my spacer kit, bolt stick was my problem, so those are the directions I remembered.

A simple fix to several diffreent possible problems :)