Brass Eagle That Bad???

[Chris_2]

I know that Brass Eagle paintballs suck like all, but are their guns really that bad? The Rainmaker seems like it might be worth while (although I'm not to into semi- and full-autos), and some of their guns like the Stingray look liek they'd make a nice sidearm in a pinch, so is Brass Eagle that bad? Just wondering. Only used their paintball and they stunk (literally).

[blake_sw]

I had a brass eagle raptor..two weeks later it broke and wouldn't fire anymore. BE has a reputation for their products just breaking. Two of my friends have had broken BE guns.
Rainmaker, UGH..if they cost over $300 (not sure on the price..) FORGET ABOUT IT. Save up a bit more and get a much better electro, aka Impulse.

[JDub]

some of there guns are ok but there paint sucks...there masks are preaty good except for the really cheap ones...there guns are made of plastic which i hate casue you cant drop them they break!!!

[pr0kch0p]

its just not worth it, there are many better products out there for about the same price.

[FireViper]

From what I've heard Top Brass (their premium paint) is decent when its fresh but you'd have to order it to get it fresh because Wal-Mart won't buy more paint until their current stock is gone (they haven't realized that paint is like produce no one wants to buy it after 3 months.)

[pr0kch0p]

top brass smells like fish :tdown:

i would only use it in my slingshot . .. god dmanit my brothers punk friend broke my slingshot :(

FUX!

[Mephistopheles]

I've had a Green Raptor for.... I don't even know how long.

But any ways, I've been very good with it. In that I clean it after games, oil it, change o-rings, etc. And it is still shooting strong, very tricked (for Raptor standards!).

However, most people that buy these Wally World guns are newbies that don't even have the word "maintanence" in their vocabulary, let alone know what it means. And with that, the gun will break down a LOT sooner... but it's the markers' fault and not their lack of care.

And that is how come BE gets a bad rap for 75% of it. Though, I will admit, their equipment is lower quality, but still strong enough to work well with good care and basic know-how.

[HavöK]

I have a rator, I don't play with it anymore, but it worked great when I did use it.

[ciaran.mooney]

Have to admit that BE's reputation with pball "guns" is not good - but they do have a good reputation for making masks.

Any one else agree?

[Incube]

They have good masks cuz JT makes and desings them....

The Rain Maker is acully a good gun! other than that B.E sucks

[KOTOWA]

Dont blame em, they try their best....EVEN IF ITS NOT eNOugH!:laugh: :laugh: :P

[Mephistopheles]

I just laugh at ignorant posts like Kot's. He states things like that, yet has no reasoning beyond it except for the fact that Brass Eagle Bashing is a Paintball tradition, and he prefers to continue it.

However, as far as the Rainmaker being a good gun... of course. It's a Vector, really. BE took the vector and marketed it with a new name, practically.

But again, the real reason that BE markers get a bad rep is because the newbies buy them as their first gun and do no maintanence (not even simple oiling!), it will break down and they blame the marker saying it's crap.

If anything Brass Eagle needs to put an easy to read instruction manual in the packages, zip-tied to the marker itself. Then maybe atleast 1/2 of the newbies that get these markers will hopefully read this and learn of the term maintanence.

[Incube]

Yes but raptors and other guns still break a hell of alot of balls. thats has nothing to do with oiling!

[Mephistopheles]

They do? I've broken maybe 10 balls throughout all the years I've owned my Raptor.

And since I've converted the Raptor to being Low Pressure, I've broken only 1 paintball.

[Incube]

Look i had a raptor for 2 years and it broke balls like nuts. mabey you got lucky with your gun.

[Mephistopheles]

What I do to guns and in paintball has nothing to do with luck.

[Incube]

Ok..... I oiled it i got new internals and a new barrel and for some reason the gun still blew..... hmmmmmmm anyway nuf said you do what you want with your guns and say what you want but other than that forget it. i dont want to go about it anymore,,,,, its a waste of my time when i could be spaming!

[flyingdeadbody1]

my brother screwed the tank on his BRAND NEW raptor and it literally blew up firing paintballs all over my house. you think i liked that? they cause safety issues and they also suck. we actually found a person that did have a working raptor. (but we found out later that 3 other peoples raptors did the same thing that day at the field). his raptor would misteriously shoot paintballs when the safety is on, him not touching the trigger. it had a mind of its own or something. when it wasnt thinking for itself, it broke paintballs left and right.

[Magadeth]

must have been one of those 'Smart Guns':laugh: :laugh:

[Incube]

heheh thats a good one

[PoInT BlAnK]

the rainmaker is a good gun (it is not plastic) the raptor is ok (not plastic either) but the other guns kinda sux but people have to understand 1 thing there are made for newbies at a cheap price so they can enjoy the sport like us

btw and brass eagle paint smells like *** and ball sweat

[Mephistopheles]

Paintballs may smell horrible... but they're 100% edible.

What is fun is entering paint-eating contests. Pretty much the use of a beer-bong device and a case of paint. Don't really need to swallow, just crew them up good and spit out the shell.

Granted, I didn't win... it was fun.

[Mushi]

I have a theory on why people think BE guns suck. It occured to me when my friend and I were at an anonymous retail sporting good store. Anyway, my friend (he worked there) was interested in getting a cheap but quality gun. Anyway, there were two guns that looked pretty much the same, one was the Brass Eagle Raptor Extreme and the Viewloader Genesis. The Genesis was in a tamper-proof plastic case, while the raptor was in a cardboard box (or something.) So anyway, this dude pulls the raptor out of the box so we can fool around with it, and he cocks it and pulls the trigger. Several times. And I know this wasn't the first time he'd done it either...you could just tell. So I'm guessing the people at the store, before anyone even purchased the gun had put anywhere from 100 to 500 or maybe even a thousand cycles of the bolt, unoiled. I know from personal experience tank o-rings no likey no oil....(didn't oil my tank o-rings at first...DOH! I can't imagine that brass eagle o-rings would be better off with 500 dry cycles underneath its belt.

So my guess is 90% of the time is that newbies that have broken guns out of the box just have damaged o-rings, because the gun isn't oiled and the people at retail stores generally don't carry maintainance stuff. That can't be good for the rest of the parts either.

Seriously, retail sporting good departments aren't even funny. My friend had to spend almost $100 worth of stuff from a paintball store to get the proper stuff to maintain and use his gun. (hopper, squeegee, bottle of oil, harness, filled co2 tank. he bought a mask off me.)

[Jackel]

BE blows. Their Blade? That's a joke! I took a paintball and it broke, don't buy it. I mean the gun got hit and it cracked.

[Dr. SPAM]

Hi, this is the pretend moderator again. I think this site as seen an awful lot of threads similar to this one, and that this thread should be shut down. If not that, I would send it to the Brass Eagle thread.

[Longbow_UMD]

Seems that anytime anybody wants a straight answer regarding a BE product, the BE Bashers just come out of the woodwork. I mean, I've never posted about the time when my friend's SPYDER chopped the 2nd ball thru the gun, jammed the bolt, and he had to try and strip it down on the field. He lost his v-screw in the process. Whoops, I just posted it. Shoot.

Anyway, my point is that BE guns and masks are NOT as bad as the rap they get. I like to say that BE's are the AK-47 of the paintball world: they're marketed to the people who don't have the experience and know-how (most of the time) to take care of them, so they don't always work flawlessly. On the other hand, the AK is the single most popular assault rifle in the world, by far.

The low-grade paint is just bad tho, I'll give 'em that.

[pk3`]

there is a flaw in your analogy :D, you can pour sand down the barrel of an ak-47 and it can still shoot

[Longbow_UMD]

Well heck, you could say that an AK-47 will fire upside-down, while no BE gun will. I never said it was a precise analogy, nor, I believe, did I say a BE gun will do any of the things a firearm can.

[_DeaTh_]

i agree, but i think that the avenger might redeem BE




*and the paint smells ridiculously bad*:pissed:

[Special_K]

Hey, people. Brass Eagle made new Paint and their not AS stinky, and as a matter-of-fact a bit more tasty. Anywho, back to the guns. Stingray=Plastic=Bad. You want a sidearm get a PT Enforcer or a PGP Pistol. Better Sidearms and a hella lot cooler. If you're looking for a REAL gun go Kingman dude. Spyder's make great beginner guns with lots of upgrades. If you're not the compact type you can go with a Tippman. Slap a Flatline on that baby and you'll be rockin' soon enough. Brass Eagle was my first gun, and I think it's a bit too complicated for a newbie. Have a nice day!

[Avatar]

well first off the paint truly does suck like they say, but my dog liked them. she would eat any that might fall on the floor. now to the guns, i dont care what they say about any "good" quality their guns have, the people who make them dont care whether or not they work. my friend had a raptor. he stripped it, cleaned it, and put it back together. when he fired the internals came outta the gun! save yo money and buy a spydah

[Toolfreak387]

My first gun was a brass eagle Stingray 2. The first time i took it to the field it broke a day later and had a internal leak. that noone would fix. Now i got a tippmann. i would just save up for something better. :|

[albert]

Is the Excellerator considered BE?

Cause the Excellerator is made by JT, and JT is owned by BE.... I was thinking of getting an excellerator 4.0... What do u guys think of the Excellerator? (i have another thread around here)

[forsaken502]

Originally posted by flyingdeadbody1:

my brother screwed the tank on his BRAND NEW raptor and it literally blew up firing paintballs all over my house. you think i liked that? they cause safety issues and they also suck. we actually found a person that did have a working raptor. (but we found out later that 3 other peoples raptors did the same thing that day at the field). his raptor would misteriously shoot paintballs when the safety is on, him not touching the trigger. it had a mind of its own or something. when it wasnt thinking for itself, it broke paintballs left and right.



:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: YOU GUYS ACTUALLY GASED UP A LOADED GUN IN DOORS W/ OUT A BARREL PLUG??? IF YOU ASK ME YOU DESERVE TO HAVE PAINTBALLS FIRED ALL OVER YOUR HOUSE!!! :laugh:

Anyways, I have a Raptor Extreme myself that I bought second hand off of a friend. I've had it for quite a while and as long as you maintain it properly (oil/clean after and before every use) and make damn good and sure it's reassembled properly, it shouldn't break down, well atleast it hasn't for me.

As for the internals flying apart, something must have been wrong when you reassembled it. The only place that has CO2 in it before being fired is in the front of the gun infront of the valve, and the plug in the end can stand up to a lot more than tank pressure if you have threaded it in properly.

Just my 2 cents. If you have spotted something I have misread/mistated, please inform me in a PM.

[tryggerhappy]

What gives B.E. Its bad name are guns like blade,samuri,talon... crap like that, I still have my 'ray, Its not quite as bad with venturi bolt, eagleworks barrell, custom forgrip, remote, etc... But the point is they need alot of upgrades. Although the Avenger might help BE in its reputation. If they would do away wit' some of those crap guns that nobody likes, POSSIBLY they could be taken seriously. And that video that comes wit the 'ray kit, 2 words, HA HA! I almost crapped my pants when I saw that, Its halarious. Phew, I didn't think I'd make it through that.