Need Rebel Help? Look no further!

[-RuShPB227-]

I dont have my Rebel anymore, but it treated me well and to many exciting games. Rebels are simple markers, similar to all your standard blowbacks. Ex) Spyders, Piranhas, Ect. They have basically the same design. The trigger is pulled, the sear releases the hammer. Air then travels to the bolt. AS the hammer goes forward, the bolt does as well. The pressure kicks the bolt back into the cocked position after every shot. If you have any questions about Rebels, and rebels only, post them here.

[The_Admiral]

I just bought a Rebel Limited Edition, and as this is my first decent marker, I want to be able to take care of it correctly. Could I get a few tips or pointers on cleaning and oiling it, so as to keep it going in pristene condition? Thanks alot for your help!!:cool:

[Sidey]

this is i think a hard one to answer but i really need to know. Not too long ago a part of my bolt broke on my le, and i just ordered a aftermarket bolt the (Shocktech Spyder Quick Strip Venturi Bolt) and i just found out that the new bolt doesnt fit in the le's striker when my bro tested his in mine, what do i do?!?! it costed too much to be a waste! HELP!

[-RuShPB227-]

Originally posted by The_Admiral
I just bought a Rebel Limited Edition, and as this is my first decent marker, I want to be able to take care of it correctly. Could I get a few tips or pointers on cleaning and oiling it, so as to keep it going in pristene condition? Thanks alot for your help!!:cool:

I am not too familiar with LE's but with mine, after each day of play, I oil and clean the bold, hammer, and sear. I whipe off the outside to keep it shiney. Before i play, I take off the barrel and run a few drops of oil throuh the gun (about 30 Shots), and i squeggee my barrel, to get rid of any unwanted things. Hope I helped!

[-RuShPB227-]

Originally posted by Sidey
this is i think a hard one to answer but i really need to know. Not too long ago a part of my bolt broke on my le, and i just ordered a aftermarket bolt the (Shocktech Spyder Quick Strip Venturi Bolt) and i just found out that the new bolt doesnt fit in the le's striker when my bro tested his in mine, what do i do?!?! it costed too much to be a waste! HELP!

I am not sure about that one, check in the spyder forums. sorry man, i wish i could help.....
IG247:freak:

[sw3253]

I've had my Rebel LE for a few months and have dealt with many issues regarding parts and operation. When I first started using the gun without a Revy, I chopped so many paintballs that I decided upon purchasing a Shocktech Spyder Quickstrip Bolt also. I figured that since the LE is rear cocking and accepts Spyder barrels, that it would also accept the bolt -- WRONG. I live near Paintball-Online.com, so I went there with my LE and tried out the Shocktech -- it didn't fit lengthwise and the pin to the striker was too big. Once I got my Spyder Compact, I confirmed the fact that Spyder bolts do not fit the Rebel LE. The overall length, bolt/striker pin location, and gas inlet hole are all different on the two different bolts. I think the only solution is to buy a factory replacement. Good luck

[-RuShPB227-]

Thanks for your help dude.... :peace:

[Rebel_Pillsbury]

Hey, i have a black rebel vertical with a 14 inch terminator barrel. I get good range and love the gun, but i was wandering if u know any good upgrades to get me more distance. Thanx pillsbury

[-RuShPB227-]

if you are using c02 i would get an expansion chamber, if i am wrong, please correct me. But i think an expansion chamber would be good so your shots will be consistant and wont shoot different distances and have velocity spikes. Besides that, i dont know much other things to help you get more distance, besides low pressure but i dont know how to do that. If i was wrong on any of this...... please correct me. Thanks.

[chrishaolin]

I am a complete newbie to paintball, and I know I sound really naive, but what is a revy as referenced in an earlier post?
what does it do and what is the estimated cost? .. thanks

[t0ny6789]

a revvy is a Revolutionary hopper. It has little motors that feed the balls into the gun faster so you dont chop paintballs. they are about 40-50 $$

[chrishaolin]

thanks man i appreciate it. so would any rebel LE owners strongly recommend getting a revy or am I okay without it??

[-RuShPB227-]

you might want to get one, i dont have one for my rebel, but if you shoot really fast you might want one to prevent (or mostly prevent) chopping a ball. I am about to get one i think, it wouldnt be a bad idea to get one, but it might not be nessessary, so u might not want to. k, hoped i helped, peace.:blah:

[sw3253]

After my experiences with the Rebel LE, I would highly suggest getting a Revolution. The side-mounted vertical feed doesn't seem to stack enough balls for any amount of sustained rapid fire. Other Rebel models with the powerfeed probably don't have the same problem because there is a stack of balls in the powerfeed, elbow, and hopper neck ready to go. Because the side-mounted vertical feed is so short on the Rebel LE, basically what you have is what is in the hopper neck and maybe 2 more in the vertical feed. I played for a while without one and chopped plenty of balls, but the Revolution helped stop that.
If I were you, I'd play for a while to see if you have a problem chopping balls. If not, why spend the money if you don't need to?

[chrishaolin]

Okay, thanks.. are there any other modifications I can
make to the Rebel LE in order to maximize efficiency and
minimize problems that may occur frequently with the gun?

[sw3253]

Other than the chopping balls thing, I really haven't had any major problems with the Rebel LE. I got a new barrel which improved accuracy and quieted it down. Other than that, just make sure you don't lose the feed plug.
Have fun!

[mhamad1]

Does anyone know where i can buy a powerfeed block online

[-RuShPB227-]

check 888 paintball

[Blinkme7182]

Will an expansion chamber that fits a Spyder Compact 2000 (foregrip and bottomline system) work on a 32 degrees rebel? thanks
Marc

[-RuShPB227-]

Most likely. I have a 32* 6 stage on mine and I have seen them on model 98s and other markers. I am almost positive it will work, Check with other people also though.

[rios]

i have a rebel deluxe and my friend has a bottomline,
he's had his gun since january of 2001 and i got mine bout 3 weeks ago. his gun just blew the cup seal and the sear and the bumper. he has only put about 2300 shots through it. he has kept it decently oiled, he oiled it alot the first time and has recently oiled it but none others besides that. please reply to tell me if you own a rebel deluxe and if you do does it have the same problems as the bottomline. checking the reviews a few people say it does but most don't comment on it.

if it does blow cup seals and sears and bumpers, can you please tell me how to keep my gun functioning as long as possible without these new replacement parts

any help is greatly appreciated thanks

[jaredu]

Originally posted by Rebel_Pillsbury
Hey, i have a black rebel vertical with a 14 inch terminator barrel. I get good range and love the gun, but i was wandering if u know any good upgrades to get me more distance. Thanx pillsbury


Is this gun better than a spyder? I am getting one for my birthday and I was wondering how well it performs...

Thanks

[MuckRaker]

so, does the Rebel have inline or staggered holes on the bottom of the grip? I'm getting my son the BL for Christmas, and I want to attach my old drop forward to it.

[P8ntballer]

standard two hole (inline)

[-RuShPB227-]

Originally posted by jaredu



Is this gun better than a spyder? I am getting one for my birthday and I was wondering how well it performs...

Thanks

I cant help there. Its mostly preference. All i can say is go to your feild and try differenct markers for yourself. I dont have my rebel anymore. I have an Impulse now. I am still glad to help. but i have kinda lost my knolage of them, they arent hard to understand tho.:eyes:

[Kreeper]

My rebel le is jammed pretty bad and i cant fix it, i haven't even used it yet. I was just shoting paintballs without any co2 and i got a ball jam some how and one broke.:pissed:Now i don't know what to do.:confused: Can someone please email me or something telling me how to fix my jam.

Thanx,
Kreeper:D :peace:

[sw3253]

If the bolt flew forward and chopped the paintball, then my guess is that your bolt is stuck in the forward position. I've had this happen a few times and it was a pain in the arse to pull the bolt back in order to clear the jam. It may take a while -- or even help from a friend -- to pull that bolt back. Good luck.

[Stuart99]

you might want to get some water in there to try and dissolve the gelatin shell. Be sure to take the marker apart afterwards and clean and oil it thoroughly

[-RuShPB227-]

you should proabbly disasemble the gun (make sure its degassed of course) and remove the hammer and bolt. If you cant get them out, give them a slight pull and they should come out. If they dont you might have to work with it for a while. you probably have shell stuck in there or the spring might be stuck (its happened). just take your gun apart and you should be able to find the problem. Peace :freak:

[-RuShPB227-]

mods do you think we could get a sticky on this maybe? it could come in usefull for people who need help.

[DyE357]

OK today I was playing paintball and all of the suden during a firefight my rebel would not recock! I knew it was not out of gAS because it didnt have the long sputter sound. Instead it had a very very brief stutter and no recock! I tried hooking up to a new tank but that didnt help. I took the bolt out and hammer and cleaned em off but that was no help! Any help would be greatly appreciated

[rios_creos]

its probably your sear, take off your grip frame and see the part that sticks out, thats the sear; if it has lots of wear and tear and you don't oil it will wear off. just call 32 degrees and tell them where you live and they will send you as many as you need for free. if you don't know the number, check their site www.32ice.com

i don't know if this will help but see ya

[-RuShPB227-]

I used to have the same problem with my rebel. it seemed to me like the o-rings on the bolt made mine stick forward and some guy had borrowed my gun and put dow grease on it. I replaced the o-rings and put the right kind of oil on there and now it works fine. its my back-up now.

[-RuShPB227-]

can we get this stickied? people can get a lot of help from this thread.:D

[sniper737]

Hey i hav a rebel deluxe and i was wondering if there are any electro trigger frames for it i saw one for a spyder but im sure if it would work on my gun can anyone help me?:eyes:

[Dudelittledude]

I am planning on buying some paintballs to go with my gun (finally a no brainer) and was wondering if it would be bad to get cheaper paintballs, instead of more expensive ones. will they make to much of a difference??

[punkerx1]

wich barrel would you refer for a rebel vertical?? the night stikk, or a quiot riot?

[sw3253]

punkerx1,

I can't speak for the quiet riot, but I'm pretty happy with the Nite Stykk on my Rebel LE.
Also, I had a similar rapid fire issue one time. I knew it wasn't the gas or sear. I found the rear screw holding the trigger frame on had backed out a little. This caused the sear not to catch. Just an idea of something else to check. Good luck.

[Drax]

I just got 2 different paintball guns for x-mas. One is the Rebel Vertical and the other is the Brass Eagle Raptor LTD 2000.

It's been about 5 years since I have gone paintballing and these are my first ones so I am very new to this.

My big question is which one should I keep?? I have read a number of bad reviews of the Raptor LTD, yet it shoots 10 balls /second compared to the 6 balls/second the Rebel shoots.

The Raptor comes with an expansion chamber and a nice 14" barrel. The Rebel comes with neither of these. Apparently they cost the same price. They were both $100. MY wife gave me the Raptor and I got the Rebel at my company party last night.

Should I keep the Rebel??? I know this forum is biased, but which one has more upgrades to offer??

If I keep the Rebel, where would be the best place to get a nice expansion chamber and a pretty good barrel?? Which upgrades should I get?

I could use all the help in the world. Both of my brother-in-laws received the same combos of gifts for x-mas. I would really like to give them some advise too. (Like keep the less accurate gun)

I would greatly appreciate any help.


Drax the Destroyer

[P8ntballer]

Id keep the Rebel, the Raptor (along with other Brass Eagle products) have been plauged (from my experience) straight from the factory. For the Rebel, you could get a CP One PIece barrel ($50) and an Expansion chamber ($30) from www.paintballgear.com, which would make it a pretty good gun. Oh and for more upgrades, BOb Long just came out with a new bolt for the Rebel, you can find that somewhere at www.888paintball.com

[rios_creos]

yes, i also suggest keeping the rebel, and most other people will tell you the same thing. your wife's in for a suprise when you start spending a couple hundred bucks a month to go play:laugh: .

but my friend had a samuri (Brass Eagle) and it chopped balls like crazy, so he bought a raptor(brass eagle) that was okay until he started to shoot it for prolonged periods of time, also it was very very shiny and looked like a brick so he returned it (we play in the woods), and now he has a spyder 1, which he loves alot, he's put a new expansion chamber on it and is planning on getting a new barrel soon.

so i would say stay with the rebel, because you can get lots of cool stuff for it and no one will bash you for having a BE.
although i personally don't bash anyone no matter what gun they have, its the player that makes the gun.

oh and as for bps, the raptor is CAPABLE read* Capable of cycling 10 balls per second, but in reality the trigger pull is too hard to achieve any more than 4. while the rebel on the other hand, is known as having the shortest trigger pull of the low end blowbacks. 6 bps is what anyone can shoot with the rebel, i've been clocked pulling 8 (without a trigger job:D )



also, anyone else have a deluxe out there, and if they do, how hard is it to take out the pins in your trigger frame, for me its impossible, i think the only way to do it would be to put it in a clamp and beat it out with a chunk of titanium. when i try to use nails or allen wrenchs they just get bent out of shape.

thanks:)

[-RuShPB227-]

i say go with the rebel because brass eagle has the worst reputation of all paintball products. you can get a j&j or CP barrel for about $50, shocktech drop forward about $35, 6 stage expansion chamber with fittings for like $40. After that you will have a nice setup. I used to have a Rebel and I had a 12" Teardrop on it. It shot pretty well but sometimes it did mess up. It was never hard to fix it though. Now I have my IMPY!:D..... I say if you have to pick between the 2, go for rebel.

[Drax]

Thanks for the advise. After all that I have read over the net I am going to keep both guns, but make the Rebel my main weapon. I am thinking of trading my Rebel in for a Rebel LE. Would that be a good choice?

Do the barrels that fit the Rebel fit the Rebel LE? I figured I could save some money by buying a gun that came with an expansion chamber and bottomline, instead of buying them seperate. Plus if I go with the LE I won't have to mod my gun to a rear cocker.

I was looking at buying a 6 level expansion chamber from 888paintball.com, along with a terminator barrel, but they don't sell a bottomline kit that I saw there. It looks like they just sell the parts to make a bottom line.

Should I upgrade my Rebel or get a Rebel LE and just buy a new barrel?

Drax the Destroyer

[-RuShPB227-]

yeah both the rebel and rebel LE have spyder threads, so they can take the same barrels.

IG247

[Villhime98c]

My friend has a rebel and it always seems to act up evertime we go to play. It will sputter every 5 shots even on a full tank in addition to chopping paint. Sometimes it won't even recock. My friends cousin got a rebel and it did the same thing. They brought thier rebels into the shop and they say the people there fixed them, and that they worked fine in the shop, but everytime we go to play thier rebels are always screwing up. Can anybody tell me what the problem is? Are all rebels like this? And have other players encounterd similar problems? Please excuse my ignorance I'm used to tippmanns.

[P8ntballer]

Oh you shoot Tippmanns :rolleyes: :laugh: j/k, not all Rebels are like that, just some, sounds like a sear/trigger related problem. Oh and what kind of Rebels do they have.

[Villhime98c]

My friend and his cousin both have normal rebels with bottomlines. No other upgrades.

[P8ntballer]

Hmm... Chopping with regulars and BLs dont usually happen so, make sure the feed plug is at the right place, and keep the gun oiled and the sear greased.

[-RuShPB227-]

Make sure you are using the right oil. double check and make sure you arent lubing your gun with DOW33. Use Gold Cup. My feild owner coated my rebels bolt with dow and it was screwing up. I dont have my rebel anymore.

[-RuShPB227-]

Does anyone have anymore questions?

[Ebonclaw]

Impy, I'm thinking about selling my Dark Angel 2001, I was wondering, would a Rebel make a good replacement marker?

[punkerx1]

ur silly:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :laugh:

[-RuShPB227-]

Ebon, im gunna bunker yo *****! Im gunna call up the guy I sold my rebel to and bunker you with that! pahaha!:rolleyes:

[BlinkBaller]

Hey, I was wondering is there a speacial type of oil you need to use for your paintball gun/rebel? Also could you tell me a little about the stock barrel because i ordered a gun and it hasnt arrived yet but I would lke to no alittle about it, thanks. Would u recomend an upgrade? Also what oz. CO2 do you use?



AT

[BlinkBaller]

One More thing. Could you please explain the best way to oil it and the most effecient way please? Thanks


AT

[lbujan]

The stock barrel is bad, better than a stock spyder/pirahna but still bad. I have two for mine, a Lapco Bigshot and a 32* Nightstix, the Nightstix is quieter and cheaper, the Bigshot though shots more accurate but it's a lot louder, I don't mind, I'm not a sound freak or anything. A friend has the 32* Precision 16' it's very nice and quiet but I find it kinda long for MY taste, he just loves it. CP's are nice too.
You can use any oil that won't eat the o-rings and will not thick under cold temperature, I use the good ol' 3-1, $1 for the little tin can :) It's the one that my gf uses for her sewing machine. :D
I think the nicest way to lube your gun it's to disamble it and oil part by part, you can put a couple of drops in the asa too, but won't lube the bolt nice (wearing the body more quickly) and if you have the delrin bolt the oil will reach it more easily. I use white lithium for the valve, but that's just me, I like to use white lithium in everything I can.
go to 32ice.com and download the manual of your marker, you will need it. Mine didn't have one, maybe the newer models have.
Recommed upgrades:
1- New barrel
2- X-chamber
3- Nice drop forward (except in the R X it already has one) Psycho ballistics drop is sweet.
4- Delrin bolt

I use a 20onz in my Rebel X, but I will recommend a 16onz (short ones) with an smartparts on/off valve. Shorter tanks help you keep your marker closer to your body, especially with a PB drop forward, it balances to sweetly.
The best thing to get instead of the x-chamber and that you could get a small nitro tank preset 850, if you have the chance to get N2/Nitro fills go that way you won't regret it!

[-RuShPB227-]

can we sticky this?

[BlinkBaller]

My rebel is shooting SNOW!!!!! I need an expansion chmaber!!! Have any sugestions on them? I need one that will do the job. I dont need top of the line but an ok that will work. I can get a ACI 4 chamber for like 27.95 But its only the chamber it doesnt have the kit. I would like to buy it all at once PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!


AT

[Paintball360]

ThePaintballstore.com sells x-chamber kits
http://www.thepaintballstore.com/aisle30.html

[ShutterSLug]

Well I do need some help!!! My Pt Xtreme(Which is so awesome!!) has a leak near the valve(The place were the 12 gram is punctured) or at least I think it is near there. But I have oiled the gun, took it all apart and checked all o rings and they were fine! One person told me that I might need to replace a cup seal! If this would help please tell me how if you can!!!! Or do I need a new valve all together???

[lbujan]

I don't think you will need to change the valve but you could try getting a new cup seal. I think I saw some spare parts kits for the PT in countypaintball.com.

[nitza]

Hey, i've owned my rebel (basic) for about two monthes, and i play every weekend or so, trouble is, i've only been able to get my stuff to field strip once, and i try very hard each week so i can get to my interals. I looked at the online manual...it said to apply pressure at the end thingys, but that didnt work. Please help...

[Paintball360]

Originally posted by nitza
Hey, i've owned my rebel (basic) for about two monthes, and i play every weekend or so, trouble is, i've only been able to get my stuff to field strip once, and i try very hard each week so i can get to my interals. I looked at the online manual...it said to apply pressure at the end thingys, but that didnt work. Please help...
Try lubing there and take something that can push the pin out that works for me when my pin is hard to get out

[ShutterSLug]

Thanks Ibujan!!! do you know how to get a new cup seal on??? and what does a cup seal look like??

[lbujan]

Nitza:
I had the same problem with me Rebel X, what I did is to screw the rear velocity adjuster all the way in, push it in, and then the screw came a little less tight and push it all the way out and *puff* all the internals all over the place :rolleyes: you can put some oil too in the screw too, it will help. I had to use my dremel to sand a little the little inner curve that the plug has, now I have no prob. dissambling it. Don't worry I went to the same thing having no idea how to take it appart. It's incredible that I had more troubles learning to dissamble my rebel than I did with my timmy :P thankx to twich for the guide.

ShutterSLug:
That's a picture of the spare kit at countypaintball.com. You can download the manual *.pdf manual at http://www.32degrees.com/html/manuals.asp. Try changing the o-rings of the valve. I think the PT X doesn't have a "cupseal" but a washer instead, sorry for that.

[ShutterSLug]

Thanks!!! SO MUCH!

[Bad007]

Ummm.....this may sound weird, but shutter slug could I get a pic of your expansion chamber on your gun or whatever, or a place that sells a 22 stage! I have never seen one of those.

[lbujan]

there are no 22 stage xchambers, the most is 8 and it's the x-core, maybe he said 2 stage and mistyped.

[Bad007]

no actually there is, I didn't believe it either, but I went and looked through pbreviews reviews on things and there is one, its a thermal expansion chamber, it looks neat. I was surprised there actually is that!

[lbujan]

sounds pretty impresive, but why bother yourself in trying to get a 22 x-chamber, it´s about 50bucks why not saving some more money and get a nitro/hpa preset tank? just my 2 cents.

[Bad007]

Well some people are in my situation though, I am running my gun on a 16 ox chromolly, sp on/off with an anti-siphon, with a stabilizer for if I did get a hpa tank I would have no where to fill it up, not even the paintball fields around here, I would have to get a frekin suba tank and all that, and MJB weding won't let em loose with a tank under 4500 pounds of pressure! So i'm screwed for now! But if there was one around here I would in a sec! Hpa would be soo nice! Are u runnin yours on HPA? U got that down there in Costa Rica?! lol,jk I have no clue about there!

[lbujan]

well I got a scuba for 175 new, it's one of the few good things of living here and playing paintball. Lots of scuba stores :) It was kinda hard to make the guy sell it to me, it took me a while to convince him. The other store that was not asking questions will sell it for 240, so well yuo got the point. I tried to call the guy to go the championships (the next in april) but he is not interested in selling HPA for paintball. :|
I can't say it was easy to switch though, we tried for 2 months in talking to the gas company in here (the only one) to sell us the nitro or HPA at more then 2000psi but they didn't want to. The cool thing about a scuba is that is a lot easier to carry than a bulk tank. I have a 10kg bulk C02 too and man, is that hard to carry or what? I never take it to the field. You can take your own scuba to the field I guess. The only prob I've seen in US for scubas is that lots of stores won't sell you anything if you don't have a license. But I think it's worth trying. You can get one by internet.

[Bad007]

Well my friend has a license, yeah your probably right they would have scuba down there! What size tank do you have on ur timmy!(the first in Costa Rica). Do you have a lot of friends to play with?:drop: (my friend wanted this face, were in class right now. Are there a lot of paintball places down there?

[BlinkBaller]

Does anyone's Rebel Bottom line(no expansion chamber) ever shoot snow when the temp is a above 50?

[ShutterSLug]

Yeah if you guys want to see the Core 22 stage expansion chamber go to www.paintball-online.com My bud and I both have it on our Shutters and we love it!!!(I seriously get around 400-500 more shoots on a 20oz co2 tank!) When I go to the Cronograph shot to shot velocity can be a differace of sometimes just 2f.p.s. when I fire like 6 shoots! My paintballs land right on top of each other too! Even when I pull of 8 shoots a sec.! I love it. It might also be that great velocity consistancy to because the Shutter has a reg. on it! But none the less I highly reccomend it! IT WORKS! I also think it is available for Tippmann c98's Spyders, Piranahas, REBELS:cool: , and many other guns also! Again www.Paintball-online.com it is 50 bucks!

Also on the same website there is a regulator + 11 stage kit. (very great if you want a reg. with your gun) for 100$!

[ShutterSLug]

Also how do you post pics???

[Bad007]

Yeah they can if liquid goes into the gun.

[Paintball360]

Here the Pic of the Core 22 stage expansion chamber

[-RuShPB227-]

you post pics by attaching a file when you make a post.

[ShutterSLug]

Testing thats all!

[BlinkBaller]

Anyone get co2 snow coming out of your Rebel BL above 50 degrees?

[-RuShPB227-]

when does it happen? right after a fresh fill?

[-RuShPB227-]

Thanks to KK, sid, or andrew, or whoever stickied this thread! *clap*

[BlinkBaller]

Whenever i shot, but it was in like the high 30s low 40s.

[-RuShPB227-]

in those temperatures, the c02 wont have time to expand, so it wiill look like snow.

[BlinkBaller]

Thanks

[-RuShPB227-]

thats what im here for.......:)

[E coli]

I have two rebels less than 3 mos old. Oldest (xmas) has had less than 1000 rds thru it. It does that Pbbbbbbbbbbbbbb full auto fail to recock thing after the first few rounds go thru it. When I check it in the garage before I play, it does better but still not as it should. New, both performed flawlessly, and I fear the young un will develop the same problem. (I got it for a spare) I called 32 deg and TJ says if the sear is broken they would replace, but not if it had "normal wear". Both sears are slightly worn at the rear. Before I spend $ on parts or repairs, what are the suggestions? Send specific questions, I'll try to send specific answers.

[-RuShPB227-]

oil your bolt. I used to have the same problem with my rebel when I had it, stupid me took the orings off the bolt and then it worked fine, but i wouldnt do that.

[E coli]

I'll try it! If it works, I'll be forever in your debt. Let you know if so.:blush:

[E coli]

Didn't work, more of the same. Try again? I'm sending it back, let them figure it out!:|

[Squidboy]

Just got my rebel VTL today. I need to know how to strip it so that I can clean it and oil it.

[E coli]

NPS/32 deg is sending me an '02 rebel to replace my sick '01! Congrats to me! Hope y'all have the same good fortune.:D :D

[-RuShPB227-]

Squid, to take it all apart, all you have to do is take out the field strip pin. Once you do this, the bolt and spring should come out. From the bottom part, you can tilt the gun back and get the hammer. Basically thats all on the gun except the sear, which all you have to do is take off the trigger frame.

[Squidboy]

I CANT GET THE STRIP PIN OUT!!!! The little ball on the end won't let me!

[Bad007]

try pushing down on the velocity adjuster and it will relieve some of the tenion then while doing that yank it out. I do not reccomend this but....hammers work.:D

[Squidboy]

I am really disappointed in my two rebels. I just used them for the first time yesterday. They would either give two shots and not recock, or they would give one shot and never recock. I am taking them apart today to see wht the problem is, and I will post again later.

[takeastand]

I have a rebel vertical and I was wonderin if i got the Bob Long Cyclone bolt ( a rear cocking bolt), do i still have to buy the factory upgrade to rear cocking or can i just get the B.L. bolt and the connecting pin to make it work?
thanks

[-RuShPB227-]

Originally posted by Squidboy
I CANT GET THE STRIP PIN OUT!!!! The little ball on the end won't let me!

push from the other side........

[Squidboy]

I got the thing apart finally, I had to push on the velocity adjuster really hard and then push it out, thanks for you guys' help

[SolidSnake17]

what upgrades should i get for my rebel le? please post

[Crash Danger]

So far my Rebel Vertical 2002 works fine but I was wondering how you remove the top cocking bolt from it if say, the o-ring on it breaks. The little pin thingy (im not talking about the quick disassembly pin) that you pull back on seems to be holding it in the gun, but I do not know how to remove it.

Thanks in advance for answering my stupid question.

-Crash

[-RuShPB227-]

pull it straight up.

[DoM]

my gun keeps feed double when i have the ball dendent thing in even if i buy a new 1...... Hope u can help

Thx,
DoM :peace:

[rjpbus]

will a mako storm electronic frame fit rebel ?
or will a esp electronic frame?

[Paintball360]

Originally posted by rjpbus
will a mako storm electronic frame fit rebel ?
or will a esp electronic frame?
None of them will but 32 degrees is making a Electo frame for the rebel line of markers

[rjpbus]

when is it comming out?

[Paintball360]

I dont know yet

[EZ_cheese]

[i would get an expansion chamber, if i am wrong, please correct me. But i think an expansion chamber would be good so your shots will be consistant and wont shoot different distances and have velocity spikes.


no your wrong, that may help but a palmers stabalizer will work the best with a co2 setup, just get a reg, that makes the air more consistent, therefore tighter shot groupings, and better acuracy, without vilocity spikes. just trying to tell ya mmmkmay! :tup:

[s_spiridonov]

Do Barrels and expansion chambers for spyder fit RebelS:confused:

[The Saiyan]

the barrels and the x-chmabes both fit.
Iwould reconmend a Custom Products Barrel
and a Aci 6 Stage x chamber

[s_spiridonov]

THX Saiyan, but I think I should buy 8-stage X-Chamber, well anyway thx for help

[The Saiyan]

that x-chmaber totaly sliped my mind get that one not the aci get the pb x-chamber hehe get it :D

[s_spiridonov]

k im going to buy that x-chamber, but do i need to buy bottom line kit first or expansion chamber kit?

[s_spiridonov]

is there a way to put rear cocking bolt on my rebel vtl?

[sdcali15]

What are people's takes on the new 2002 Rebel Xtreme? I'm contemplating getting this gun, but after reading this thread, it seems people have quite a few problems with 32 Degrees markers. It's either the 2002 Rebel Xtreme or the Spyder Shutter. I love the looks of the new 02 Xtreme but if the Shutter is more reliable, and the overall better gun, I'll go with that. Opinions??

[i like tictacs]

the only rebels that had alot of problems were the older models. 32* just got its feet wet with those. the new xtreme 02's are better than the shutter, by far i think.

[El Tigre]

My 02' Xtreme is in the mail and I was wondering, does it come with an elbow or am I going to have to buy one?

[Bad007]

probably got to buy one.

I would go with the shutter, you can upgrade those more and seem to be more reliable, but they are pretty much the same kinda gun. Have same upgrades

[Dark Cloud]

According to tictac Rebel 02 Xtreme is greater than shutter which is great than 98c so Xtreme Rebel is greater than shutter adn 98c.

I've heard some really mixed revies about the shutter. Many people say that all of the upgrades on it are cheap and are practically uselsss. I'd reccommend getting the Rebel Xtreme or the Spyder Xtra or TL plus. The TL plus is the same as a shutter just without the dropforward and the reglulator.

Thats what i think.

[ceniack]

double feeding even with new ball detent, shooting diablo inferno paint. ACI one peice zero gravity barrel, bob lond delrin bolt (all the parts that could be causeing the problem) any suggestions?

[teamfortman]

32degrees told me they would repair my rebel le but i do not know where to ship it too.....

[Bad007]

Lol, tic tacs has the same rank in opinion as anyone here and it's not what he thinks but what you think. And also the rebel Xtreme has the SAME upgrades as as Spyder Shutter. get an Xtra

[i like tictacs]

why? Vertical feed SUCKS on any blow back. it actually feeds SLOWER then powerfeed. Why? blowback, goes straight up and literally pushes the balls back up. with powerfeed there is a blowback vent, so it isnt as bad.

[Bad007]

I agree but they were suggesting that, and I doubt you will notice it if you have a revy and I used one and they work fine and I like them better. And then why is vertical feed on so many guns? On many blowbacks there are vertical feed such as timmies.

[Bad007]

32 degrees....look on their site and there will be a page where it will help you out.

[somedude12345]

what is the best brand of paint to use for a rebel? My gun is a rebel 02 vertical. I will someday get a terminator barrel for it too.

[Bad007]

depends, what kind you can get and the bore size of the barrel your using. And if you want to pay for like tourney or paint or practice paint. try to match the bore of the barrel, a nice fit would be the best, want it to slide through but still kinda snug.

[somedude12345]

alrighty, my barrel is 68 cal. so I should get 68 cal. paintballs. But, what brand is the best? I just play with my friends, nothing serious. just fun, casual paintball. I was thinking 32* or diablo or pmi or something. thanks

[i like tictacs]

proball for rebels, they shoot excellent, and the arnt thin-shelled so your less likely to break

[Fastlearner]

Chopping / doubling balls with a '02 Rebel VTL or Bottomline? Try these steps:

1) Turn your powerfeed to the off position.
2) Clear the breech of paint balls.
3) Fill the power feed with the paint you want to use.
4) SLOWLY! Turn the power feed knob COUNTERCLOCKWISE!!! until the balls start to feed easily but not wide open.
5) Rapid fire the gun.
6) Repeat steps 4 & 5 until reliable feeding without chopping / doubling occurs.

:sleep: long winded explanation why this works.... email me if you want it:|

[DeFiant]

My freind is haing trouble with his Rebel Extreme. it leaks gas down the barrel and i know this is usually caused by a bad cup seal but 32 degrees are different. Does he have to buy a new cup seal thing or is there something i missed?

[Snatch]

I was going to buy a Rebel vertical, is it worth the money or should I upgrade to an LE or Xtreme?

[Dark Cloud]

Buy a VTL or an Xtreme. Dont get the LE no matter what you do okay

[hybrid79]

I have a brand new rebel xtreme and it is double feeding on me alot. every 10 or so balls i will get 2-5 balls out of the barrel at on time. Any suggestions to help me out?

[MNsniper]

i have a rebel btmline, with all the little gizmos on it, but i can't get it to recock. when i pull the trigger, the bolt goes forward and shots but the hammer just won't go back. it hits the valve pin and just stops. anyone got any ideas?:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[Bad007]

defiant-have you check all the o rings and have you oiled it?

mnsniper-the bolt and hammer are connected so I doubt one is just going to do its own thing. are you just trying to say your gun won't recock? Kinda sounds like the spring, my want to try a couple springs out. or your sear may be bad. youll have to explain it a little more.

[MNsniper]

i've changed all the springs in it and it still won't recock. and i've taken every part out cleaned it oiled what need to be oild and put everything back together. the sear is brand new so it's not that. and the hammer doesn't even come back it just stops when it gets to the valve.:pissed: sorry i just had to put this smily in cause it amuses me so much :agree:

[Bad007]

i hope you have the same "paintball" fettish that i have
love you .... bye

[32degreesking]

Anyway i got a rebel vtl and got a 32 degrees expansion chamber and quiet riot barrrel but for some reason it broke after i got the ex the guy at the store put the c02 in and you could hear leaking from in side the barrel the guy tried everything but couldnt find where it was coming from. he then checked the co2 and that wasent leaking either he then just slowely heard it go away but if it happends again what should i do also when i put the co2 in and i cock it and I shoot it it won't recock but it doesnt sputter so i know therre is still co2 left

[athos1307]

i have a rebel VTL and want a sight rail on it. I was wondering if this was somehow possible and i not really interested in if people think that i should have one or not. I just want to know how to do it. Thanks.

[32degreesking]

i dont think so because the pin is sticking out of where the sight rail goes

[Killious]

I have a Rebel 2002 xtreme and i am having a problem with the bottom regulator/gauge. For some reason my gun retains CO2 even after i unscrew the tank and it slowly leaks out over time back through the area where you screw in the CO2. Does anyone have any help on this subject or had the problem themselves?

[MNsniper]

the xtreme 2002 hing i normal as far as i know. my friend has one and his does that to. so i don't think it's anything to worry about.:agree: <~~~ i love that guy

[MNsniper]

to the sight rail guy, you have 2 options. theres an upgrade kit made by 32* that ilncludes a sight rail and a rear cocking bolt, or you can custom the connecting pin and cut it so none of it sticks out above the body.:agree: this guy rocks

[Killious]

But what happens if i try to use a high preasure tank on my gun? Has anyone tried using a hp tank on a rebel xtreme? If they have what happened after?

[Killious]

come on someone please tell me if a hp tank would work on the rebel xtreme with its gas retention problem

[jayknow]

Ok I have a rebel deluxe. Does the parts for the 02 series fit on older rebels?

[rebeljay]

matters what parts... trigger frame doesnt

[jayknow]

son of a.....I want that electro frame

[Killious]

The bolt pin on my 2k2 rebel extreme broke off and 1/2 is stuck but is still holding the bolt in place. Is there anyway to take out the rest of the poltpin? and if there is are there any recomendations to fixing it / replacing it??? (does CA work with that kind of metal if anyone has tried or even knows what CA is)

[rubberbanned]

um explain again please what is the poltpin?

[Killious]

haha very funny i ment to say bolt pin not poltpin

[rubberbanned]

if it is the little thing that connects the stack then it should come right out. If not I don't know

[tunnelrat]

You might try to push it out from the back.

Just use a knife or set of presision screw drivers.

[-RuShPB227-]

dang its been forever since ive checked this thing. lots of posts. Any help that hasnt been answered by any of these other guys?

[tunnelrat]

I was wondering, beeing that the Rebel is almost the same as a Diablo sabotage ( they even have the same instruction manual).

I was wondering, do you have any recommends concerning upgrades? :confused:


It plays fine now, but fine ain't good.
I mostly play woods and if i'm shootin a someone, i don't need the whole other team to hear where i am.

Also i want to explore the possabilities of switchin to Comp. air.

PLease gimme advice..

Thanx.:D

[paintsniper007]

That looks like a sweet x-chamber, but I wonder which option I should choose for it to fit a Rebel Bottomline? Please help. I will appreciate the help.:) :wave:

[paintsniper007]

I was wondering if the electronic gripframe for the 02 Rebels will fit my Rebel Bottomline, and how much will it be? I live in PA, so I do not know many local stores, because I am new to the game. Please help. Thanks.:) :wave:

[jaredu]

Okay....I've been trying to get the pin that holds the trigger in the frame off and it isn't budging....Which side do I tap on to make it come out? I'm going to replace the trigger springs....

Thanks

[paintsniper007]

I went on to www.888paintball.com and looked up some info on electronic gripframes and I found three listed in different locations. Two were under 32 Degrees parts and they were
1- 32 Degrees Rebel 02 Electronic 4 Function Grip Frame
2- 32 Degrees Spyder Electronic 4 Function Grip Frame
The other was listed under new products
1- 32 Degrees Spyder 45 Frame Electronic Black
They are all around $75 so I'm just wondering which one will fit my Rebel Bottomline? ( it is not a 02) I will appreciate any help.:)

[FuzZyXL]

previous post: nope. I emailed them about the rebel 02 one and they said that it would not work. spyders have a very different gripframe from rebels (curved interface between gripframe and body) so I don't think the other two would work.

I have an old style rebel xtreme, and I was wondering if it's valve compatible with spyder parts. I want to get a magnaport valve with brass cupseal so I don't go through a nylon every 2-3K shots.

[paintsniper007]

I was wondering if you checked the site, because the gripframe under new products looks like it would fit? I mean no disrespect, but I am just woundering man.:) :wave:

[paintsniper007]

I am trying to disassemble by gun but the hammer plug will not come out all the way. How do I get this fixed?:confused:

[russpaintballer]

I have a Bottomline '02, and I was wondering if it was possible to give it a rear cocking bolt, and if so, any idea hoch that would cost?

Thanks.

[co2_frost]

anyone know where i can get a cheap BTB? i saw them for $199.99 but i hope i can get it cheaper......?

also what barrel threads are 32 degrees markers?

[paintsniper007]

rebels take spyder threaded barrels.

[FuzZyXL]

Are rebels valve-compatible with spyders? I want to replace the stock valve/nylon cupseal with an aftermarket spyder turbo valve with brass cupseal. I'm tired of replacing cupseals every case-and-a-half of paint. Rebel Xtreme... converted to vertical to see what it's like.

[hvpbplaya]

My Rebel 02 VTL is leaking. I Fully disassembled the gun but found no problems. When i fire while its leaking it makes low HUM noise and wont recock itself. I know the gun is put together right also

[hvpbplaya]

Nvm fixed my own problem heh The 2 o-rings on the silver valve and lil scratches on em like maybe a jagged part of my gun scracted em.. well i replaced and the leak is gone

[bunkermonkey_22]

Hey, I've just ordered my first rebel.. a btb electronic, I hear it's great, and I've read alot of positive reviews, but I question the barrel and the expansion chamber, how much performance can I expect to find from these two parts?

[Impulse32]

Yea,im thinking of getting the BTB electronic because the reviews say its a great gun......but some people put down 32* for some reason....no problems with mine except the stupid hose.....tel me if the BTB electronic is a good gun alright....thx

[wwjdisthaway2b]

I have a Rebel 02' Extreme and it is awesome but if you prefer the BTB for the style thats cool too. But the btb electronic is not burst or full auto. If you want electronic you can get the regular btb at www.888paintball for $120 and then you can go to www.firstcallpaintball.com and get a black (which will go great with the btb's colors) electronic grip frame for only $60 which is about the same price as the btb electronic. Then you will have the electronic plus the full-auto, burst, and an LCD for quick switching from one to another (unlike most spyders where you have to go in the frame and switch a bunch of switches).

Nick

[supersly_jones]

Hey,
I got a spyder with the 32 degrees electro grip on it and love it....but it only works for a short amount of time....and i know why....thats because i need to oil the sear or w/e its called...thepart that moves on the trigger frame...i tried normal gun oil and it didn't really help any....does anyone have any suggestions?

[liquidknight]

hello one and all, I have picked up a pt extreme at skyball and have been
changing it to suit the style of play I'll be using it for.
that style being indoor field play. ( see www.sgtsplatters.com for a look at
the field)

I would really like to put an electronic frame on it but it seems that 32
degrees doesn't make one for it and a spyder frame doesn't fit.

help!!

I want burst fire and auto fire!
just think a full auto pistol now that's cool!

have installed hopper and bottom line just need the frame now.:crazy:

[rebeluser52]

i am new to this so i do not know if this is a stupid question or not. How can a bolt decrease ball breakage? Also How can a bolt improve accuracy and distance? That is what the Cyclone bolt and delrun bolts say.

[liquidknight]

only way i can think of that they would help as far as ball breakage is to eliminate any sharp edges or to go to a softer materal so as to lessen the blow of the hammer. but other than that i'm not sure

[ghuertas]

I wanted to know If I can out a full-auto trigger into a rebel duluxe if yes, tell me how please..............

[ShadowArrior56]

I just got a new Rebel Xtreme 02 and its my first decent gun as well. What ugrades do you think I should get because its as inaccurate as heck. If you could help me that would be awesome

[liquidknight]

a glenn palmer stabilizer!!
it makes either gass co2 or hpa more consistant


http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/online-catalog/stabilizer.htm


:D :eyes: :D :laugh: :crazy:

[Fishin9975]

I just bought a Rebel Bottom Line, and it doesnt have a beaver tail or a sight mount (which its not suppost to of course) but I want to put a sight on it. What do I do? Can I buy an after market sight rail that will fit the gun, and if so, who makes the best one for a rebel?
thanks,
Tim

[Irishman]

My problem is located here: http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1188249#post1188249

sigh

[N00bE]

I want to get an expansion chamber, but I was told that you might need to get something called a "vertical adapter" installed in order to use one. I have a Rebel Vertical w/ Bottomline.

[MuffinMan14]

no you don't need VA.
i wouldnt recommend an ex chamber, get a decent reg and anti-siphon for co2 or just buy a nitro if you have the money.

[Guitar Junki 16]

An expansion chamber could be of use if you are having problems with your Co2 freezing up, or you are losing shot-to-shot consistancy. If you get one, you wont need to get a vertical adapter, the expansion chamber will just screw right into where the bottomline screws into. You will have to take off that black piece from the one end of the bottomline so that you can screw it into the Xchamber.

[ZZYZX]

SPUTTERING / RAPID FIRE / NOT RE-COCKING PROBLEM

Just wanted to leave an update for those who might be having the same problem.

If your gun is clean, well-lubed, and the tank has air in it...then this is probably the old "hammer and sear" problem, as it was with mine.

I e-mailed the tech guys at 32 Degrees (Naitonal Paintball Supply), and after about 2 weeks, I received a new sear and hammer free of charge.

It takes about 5 minutes to replace. Re-lube everything and re-assemble, fire the gun with CO2 a few times to distribute the lube, and you're done! (It may not re-cock the first few shots, but after 5-10 you should be good!)

Good luck!

[broco]

i have purchased a sight rail with a beaver sight tail and a long cyclone bolt. i am having trouble getting the top plug out of my rebel 02 bottomline to install, can you help?:confused:

[FuzZyXL]

Broco: if you're referring to the linkage pin (the part that holds the bolt and the striker together), of which you can see only the knurled top, I would recommend mechanical persuasion (pliers). The part should pop straight out. I am not an engineer. Yet. Take my advice with a grain of sanity.

[broco]

thanks fuzzy il have a try

Now i have another problem i went to my local paintball site to get my gun cronagraphed and found the highest i could get it to shoot was 110 fps does any 1 know how i can boost this up?

[rebeluser52]

I was wondering if this (http://www.888paintball.com/product.asp?plid=AIR+SYSTEM&icid=EXPANSION+CHAMBERS&scid=REGULATOR+KITS&csid=518952997516005991568838152427117918450780051 81196&andor=OR&lookup=ebel+reg+upgrade&code=07%2D2%2DRBL+XTR+RG+UG+3) would fit on my rebel bottomline, and if it would be a good alternative to an expansion chamber. Also if this (http://www.888paintball.com/product.asp?plid=PARTS&icid=32+DEGREES&scid=AFTERMARKET&csid=999553820346583118484075137796315395529735701 64342&code=07%2D2%2DRBL+UPG+KIT+S+1) would work on my gun, there is no real reason i want this but i like the rear cocking and the sight rail. By the way right now my rebel is stock (I am pretty new to the sport) but I hope to get a cp one piece pretty soon.

[hvpbplaya]

cp one piece = godlike for a nice rebel upgrade under 50$ sorry to say but i cant help u with those links they both took me to 888paintball but the main page not the item that u were talking about

[FuzZyXL]

Yeah, they'll both work. Don't bother with these parts though.
The first one is a substandard regulator(I have one. It sucks.) and a gas-through grip. You can do much better for that much money.
The second is just a dress kit. It converts your marker to rear cocking and adds a sight rail/beavertail combo like the Rebel Xtreme. No/negligible performance enhancement.

For the first one, I'd take a deep breath and consider buying a regulator. A bit more money, to be sure, but potentially worth it in performance, if it's set up properly.
For the second one, the only reason to do that is to be able to mount a sight to your Rebel.

Personally, I'd say that the most important part is a great barrel. First thing, without a doubt, to buy. I've felt that the barrel is at least as important as the rest of the marker for putting paint on target.

For more comprehensive answers to your questions:
http://www.ottersccustoms.com/

[rebeluser52]

ok since you think i should buy a regulator i might think about it. I was wondering since i only use CO2, do u think that a regulator would be worth it? If so i was wondering if this (http://www.actionvillage.com/paintball-gas-systems-regulators-pmi-pure-energy-regulators.html) would work, since i do not want to shell out a lot of money since i do not have a full time job and do not have much money to spend on this stuff.

[p8ntballer32*]

Hey i just bought a rebel o2 extreme electronic lcd about 3 months ago. i am having 1 problem with it though. when the gun is gassed up and turned on and has a new battery in it every once in a while when i pull the trigger the gun doesnt fire. it is cocking back and is fully cocked back when this happens. When i pull the trigger all i hear is a clicking noise and the bolt does not fire. it doesnt move at all. but then all the sudden ill pull the trigger again and it will fire. this happens to me about every 4 or 5 shots. can somebody help me out please and tell me what the problem is an what i need to do about it thanks.

[FuzZyXL]

RebelUser52: A properly configured regulator will help your shot-to-shot consistency whether you're using CO2 or HPA. Remember that some regulators don't like CO2, so make sure that the one you get can handle it. Remember also that you need to make sure that liquid CO2 won't find its way into the reg. Most regulators hate liquid CO2.

About the PMI regulator: I don't know how well it performs.

It's up to you to decide if you NEED a reg enough to spend the money on it.

[broco]

i went to my local paintball site to get my gun cronagraphed and found the highest i could get it to shoot was 110 fps does any 1 know how i can boost this up :confused:

[bmadd]

Anybody know of some good trigger jobs for the older version rebels?

[FuzZyXL]

Broco. Look it up at
http://www.ottersccustoms.com/
It's all there. Troubleshooting. Low velocity.
Knowledge is power, people. Start reading.

[bmadd]

The front screw on my gripframe wont tighten all the way. I screwed it in as far as it would go and it doesnt hold the gripframe tight at all. This is on the older model rebel bottom line.

[FuzZyXL]

bmadd: It sounds like you lost the lock washer that is supposed to go on the screw before you put it in the marker. The lock washer keeps the screw from backing out from the vibrations the marker makes when it cycles. It's an important piece.

[p8ntballer32*]

anybody know the bore size for the stock barrel(quiet riot) that comes on the Rebel 02 xtreme

[bmadd]

888 paintball has the eframe for the 01 rebels!

[IR3 #1]

Did you really enjoy your rebel...write back and tell me what you like a bout an awesome ReBeL.

[FuzZyXL]

I bought an 01 Rebel Xtreme. Loved it. Got a Teardrop barrel and little else. Did some efficiency mods. Hi-Flow valve, polished internals, removed venturi from the bolt. Used it until it wore out (cases and cases of paint)at the sear/striker interface. The morning before a big rec-ball day. Mourned and played with a rental.
Bought an 02 Rebel Vertical off Ebay for $40 and put the bolt, the valve, the barrel, and the sight rail from my Xtreme on the new one. Added a gas-through grip and a remote. Accurate and consistent on the range. About a case through it. Haven't tested it on the field.

[AzianTaco]

Does anyone know which bolt is better for a BTB? A Bob Long Cyclone Bolt or a Bob Long Delrun Bolt?

[IR3 #1]

Derlun is way better...get that one..I have just researced it 4 u!!!!

[IR3 #1]

Sounds like a sweet gun dood.....keep up the hard work big and tall boy!!!!

[IR3 #1]

Same as rushpub227

[Durandal]

Sorry if this question was addressed already I didn't feel like reading all 10 pages.

Can a silver bullet use spyder bolts, and if not what type of bolts, if any, should I use?

Thankyou.

[mikers1212]

I have a rebel bottomline and sometimes the cocking handle will shoot back and get jammed. I was wondering If there is anything that I should do to fix this problem?:confused:

[IR3 #1]

always make sure your gun is well oiled and cleaned babe and always oil thge o-rings plus your gun might be all gungked up and if ya want take the gun apart adn oil it and run it through hottt water abbe....make sure everything is out of the body (you can leave that pin that goes throught the gun in man......so ya just clean it and tell me if that work'sbabe****

[IR3 #1]

Azian taco ....the Derlun bolt is like water sliding on wet glass it just flows and cock's real easilyand it will increase your fet per secong up to like 10 feet or 12 feet a second babeeee

[Triggercrazy101]

:confuse: I own a rebel xtreme electronic 02 it works very good but the only problem on my gun is i can not find the the firing modes can someone plz help
thank u

[DogPython]

if i have a 32 degrees e-trigger and the gun just went crazy the other day shooting (30+ bps) what could be the problem and how do i fix it. after the "explosion" the trigger frame display is all messed up. any advise? thanks

[djing4proof]

hey i have a 2002 electronic rebel xtreme and iused it once like 3 months ago and it shot good but yesterday i played again and it was tottally messed up when i shot it would only travel barely 10 feet it was really mesed up the gauge said there was inough gas and everything i was using the same balls as last time it was just not working right and then alsi sometimes in semi when i shoot it will shoot then sometimes i will shhoot and it will just stall even tho im pushing it all the way back..??? please help me!!!!!im a noob.,, hehe i added u on my aim cause i need some help ,,,

[IR3 #1]

hey umm, I don't think the rebel electronic have modes it is just a lighter and leess triger pull..( does it just have a clear screento soo inside and a red light?????...cause if it does then it dosen't have modes kid...Im me back!!!!

[ScotiaRebel]

Yea My rebel xtreme ( the 2001 model)
is haveing a little bit of trouble. wheneve i load it up it shoots like twice then won't recock
then when i recock it there is an amazing amount of resistance and after i recock it that time, when the trigger is pulled the bolt just slowly goesf froward and stops halfway as if it is hung up on somthing.
i havce tried everything from cleaning and oiling it, to replaceing everysingle o-ring in the gun. Please help.

thanks

[rebel_orbit]

I just bought a Rebel Xtreme Electronic '02 and after a few minutes of searching I finally found how to change the modes of firing instead of just having the default semi-auto mode. Look at the back of the grip where the power switch and button 2 are located. There should be a square screwed in piece of metal, don't ask me why 32degrees screwed it shut. If you unscrew the little screw and pull out the small square metal piece you will find "Button One." With this button you can change modes from Semi-auto, burst, reactive, full auto, and RPS modes.

I also need to know if the Psychoballistics X-Core Expansion Chamber and a DYE Ultralite barrel would be good upgrades for this gun.

[cowman92]

Hey, I have a rebel 2002 and just bought a bottomline kit for it. The first time i used, it worked fine, but now(the second time) a week later, when i try to screw in the c02 tank, it all comes pouring out of the little hole on the bottomline kit. Is there anything i can do, or do i just have to stop using the bottomline?

[cowman92]

I'm basically a newb at paintball and want to know what upgrades i should get to my rebel02. i bought the bottomline kit, but i dont know what else i should get.

[FuzZyXL]

Cowman: You're only a 'newb' if you make yourself out to be one. Asking for help is opening the door to a larger world.

About the leak in the bottomline: check the o-ring on your CO2 tank. If a new o-ring doesn't solve the problem, the pin on the tank is being engaged too soon. First, try other tanks on your marker and your tank on other markers to determine where the problem lies. Whatever the problem, it should be repaired by an airsmith. Should be a simple(cheap) fix. Alternately, you could sidestep the problem by purchasing an on/off CA adapter like this one (http://www.paintballgear.net/031-7960-2.html). The part should cost between $30 and $50 new. The idea is to be able to screw the tank in completely before engaging the valve pin. This is one of the reasons I use a remote system. I hate to tell you to buy something you've already bought, so I strongly recommend to price both options before deciding.

about upgrades: Play with your marker a lot before you start pouring money into it. At this point, your money is probably better spent on paint, air, and field fees to get your skills and knowledge up. If you decide you don't like the feel, it's gripframe or dropforward time. If you want accuracy, get a nice barrel and MATCH YOUR PAINT TO IT. The younger brother of accuracy is consistency. If you're in a warm climate, a regulator for CO2 could make a big difference over the chrono. Cold climates might indicate HPA, but only if you can get cheap and easy fills, play enough to warrant the expense, and are plagued by liquid CO2 problems.
Spend time with players. Play mostly at your own skill level, but don't be afraid to step into deeper water to test the temperature. See what players are using. Ask them if you can try out their markers. Find out what you like, and what you don't BEFORE you start upgrading. Way back in the ancient times, I spent all my money on stuff for my rebel. It looked tight, but I couldn't afford to play. Take a lesson from my mistake.

Long story short: Just play. Lots.

[chaostheory]

A friend gave me this gun one day because he broke it and wanted me to fix it. This gun leaks CO2 whenever any bottle it screwed in. i tried to fix it by stripping the gun but found that the cocking rod was broken, and in order to strip it you need to be able to screw out the cocking rod. Could I get any ideas for fixing either problems? thanks.

[spazzonater]

These are what i've done

home made drop forward
terminater barrel
sanded hopper for smoother flow
took slak out of trigger

what i want to do

take more out of trigger
better bolt
revy
compressed air

Do i need to do anything to setup my gun for air? And could anybody help me on what to get for the bolt and how to take out more out of the trigger

[chaostheory]

does anyone know where i can find a cup seal for a rebel '02? 888 is the only one i know of that sells that kind of stuff and they were out of stock.:confused:

oh yea, i dont think you can get a better bolt for the rebel spazzonator.

[ScotiaRebel]

e-mail,
tj@nationalpaintballsupply.com
he might be able to help
or
try your local field/supply store

[spazzonater]

you can get a new bolt, it's by bob long, the cyclon and you can get a delrun bolt too.

[DragonX8806]

Hey i just bought a rebel 02 xtreme and id like to know some suggested upgrades while still leaving the outside pretty much the same, i dont mind getting a new trigger but everything else i like.

i still have to buy a steel braided hose.

[FuzZyXL]

okay, the problem with the broken linkage pin is a tough one. What you need to do is remove the back pin, take out the hammer spring, pull the bolt fully back. Now, if you can get some sort of angled tool into the lower body tube, you can actually lever the link pin free. the hammer actually has a hole going all the way through from the top to the inside of the tube. if you can find a good picture of a striker, you'll know what you mean.

about upgrades (spazzonater):
Air is nice if you can get fills where you plan to play. This upgrade will transfer nicely to another marker, should you decide to upgrade. Not much is necessary to prepare for this upgrade, if you've got a bottomline ASA. Some like to have a dropforward, but that's up to you. A used steel HPA tank with some life until its next hydro can be had on the cheap. Buying a tank with an adjustable output pressure will give you versatility, and let you tune your marker toward more gas-efficient operation, but will cost more. Consider the costs and availability of HPA in your area before you jump in.

The ONLY type of bolt it's remotely worth your money to buy (imho, of course)is of the lightweight polymer variety, but these require special care. My verdict: Don't bother.

A used 9 or 12v revy is kind of nice, and can be had very cheaply used. IMHO, not necessary for woods ball on a mechanical marker. I can fan my mech. rebel as fast as I can and my good old VL-200 still keeps up.

The best way to upgrade your trigger is an electro frame. IIRC, '02 rebels are grip-compatible with spyders. Ebay or message boards. This one can be kind of spendy. If you feel awesome, you might be able to pick up someone's nonfunctional electro-spyder (as long as the electronics are good) and slap the frame on your rebel. This upgrade is likely to necessitate the purchase of an agitated hopper.

About upgrades: (DragonX8806)
the single most important thing, I cannot stress enough is paint-to-barrel match.
You said you like the lines of your marker how it is, so, just buy paint that fits your barrel. The good folks at the field where you play should be able to sell you paint that fits nicely. Steel braided hose is a personal preference thing. It's durable. Good if you're rough with your marker when you play. Read the second half of my previous post.

... and I'm spent.

[Tjc1088]

a friend of mine has a problem with his rebel and gave it to me to try to fix... please give any information to help...


first off. when you try to cock the gun the bolt wont move.... when you try to remove the bolt it wont come out, just slides back and forth in the chamber....

im not sure what elese i can say... maybe somone has had the same problem ... anyone know?

[DownWifDat]

Hey does anyone know about any bolt or other recomended upgrades for a rebel le?

http://www2.888paintball.com/product.asp?code=07%2D2%2DRBL+B%2FL+RCK+BLT&csid=358240083726449380908044884158844318154744934 96625

I've seen the bob long, but will that fit the le? If so is it worth it. Something that's less than 30 bucks can't be that important can it?

[ImaREBEL]

I have a rebel 02 bottomline and when i shoot it the balls only travel a few feet if that and my bolt does not recock itself properly. its not the c02 its full cause it works on my tippmann i have no idea and it is driving me crazy trying to figure it out i have had it apart at least 15 time trying to get it together the right way any help would be great thanx

[travsstuff]

When I pull the trigger sometimes the trigger does not trip the sear. Any help.

[spyder939]

i dont realy know what is wrong. the thing that lets the hammer go by dosent go down far enough. if u can help please do.:pissed:

[death1989angel]

test

[joseakapimp27]

hey i have a problem with my rebel and was wondering if guys will help ok heres the deal when i put my air tank 20 ounce co2 on the gun the air escapes from the front of the gun so does anyoen know what i can do??

[cordobba77]

should i use co2 or a high pressure system.:peep:

[iso2005]

i need help. i have an electronic rebel btb and i have had problems with it since i got it last year. my first problem was that whenever i pulled the trigger the sear woudnt trip but i think that problem is fixed somewhat it still tends to do it from time to time. then awhile back it started leaking air from the asa. i got it sealed at a paintball shop but it still does it. and just this past weekend i went to play and i found that i couldnt get the gun to shoot over 200fps. i took it to the field owner and he field stripped the gun only to find that the pin that connects the hammer and the bolt is snapped in half. i have yet to play a full match with this gun (due to problems) since i got it last year for christmas. i have been thinking about trying to save up for an impy and selling the rebel. i could use all the help i could get and i would like to save the 500 bucks it would cost for the imp.

[clown_13_2001]

Originally posted by iso2005
i need help. i have an electronic rebel btb and i have had problems with it since i got it last year. my first problem was that whenever i pulled the trigger the sear woudnt trip but i think that problem is fixed somewhat it still tends to do it from time to time. then awhile back it started leaking air from the asa. i got it sealed at a paintball shop but it still does it. and just this past weekend i went to play and i found that i couldnt get the gun to shoot over 200fps. i took it to the field owner and he field stripped the gun only to find that the pin that connects the hammer and the bolt is snapped in half. i have yet to play a full match with this gun (due to problems) since i got it last year for christmas. i have been thinking about trying to save up for an impy and selling the rebel. i could use all the help i could get and i would like to save the 500 bucks it would cost for the imp.

The sear not tripping is because of the battery. Are you using a rechargable 9.6v or just a 9v? Sometimes just the 9v doesn't cut it.

Teflon all of your hose's connectors. Change the oring on your tank.

Get a spyder spring kit so you can get the gun over 200 fps.

[iso2005]

Originally posted by clown_13_2001


The sear not tripping is because of the battery. Are you using a rechargable 9.6v or just a 9v? Sometimes just the 9v doesn't cut it.

Teflon all of your hose's connectors. Change the oring on your tank.

Get a spyder spring kit so you can get the gun over 200 fps.

Im using a 9v right now and i bought the 32 degrees spring kit but it didnt help any

[clown_13_2001]

Originally posted by iso2005


Im using a 9v right now and i bought the 32 degrees spring kit but it didnt help any

Yah, I would invest in a java rechargable battery and charger.

What spring combination were you using?

[iso2005]

both springs are medium(silver)

[clown_13_2001]

Originally posted by iso2005
both springs are medium(silver)

If you need more velocity, you need a harder main and a softer valve.

[iso2005]

ok, thanks. but what about the snapped pin that connects the bolt and hammer? is it just a standard spyder pin? does it have to be specially ordered?

[clown_13_2001]

Originally posted by iso2005
ok, thanks. but what about the snapped pin that connects the bolt and hammer? is it just a standard spyder pin? does it have to be specially ordered?

You could maybe take your bolt and hammer assembly into a hardware store and see if they have any.;)

[jackmacncheese]

I cna't get hte bolt pin out of my rebel BTB. I think it must be swolen!? Everyone says it has an easy feild strip but I can't get this thing out with WD40 and pliars.

[nyk2323]

i hav a rebel 02 extreme and i love it. it was a present from my uncle. the problem is when i shoot its only goes about 170 fps even with the velocity adjust all the way up . my friend has a spider imagine and his gun was 250 fps.

i wood also lik to kno how i can get my trigger closer to the handle

[Killerinstinct]

My friends cup seal broke on his rebel xtreme. Where can i get a new one.

[clown_13_2001]

Originally posted by Killerinstinct
My friends cup seal broke on his rebel xtreme. Where can i get a new one.

I am sure a spyder cup seal will work just fine. You can get them by calling up kingman.

[FuzZyXL]

anyone with an '02 rebel, I can modify your marker body to take 'cocker ball detents. PM me if interested.

[morris07]

hey, i just picked up a Rebel LE with 3 barrels for 20$ but the barrels i got were pretty junky..any ideas as to what a good barrel would be for the gun? And if you would happen to know, a good paint match for the barrel?
Also, the bottomline on the gunleaks from where the hose goes into the bottomline...you think i should get a new bottomline for it/hose or you think itd be worth it to buy some silicone or lock tight or somethin and see if it would seal that up?