Walmart kits?

[langdonx]

Me and a few friends wanted to play some paintball out in the woods. We aren't serious and don't want to pay oodles of money for really nice and accurate guns. We found some cheapies on walmart.com for $79 and $99... Any comments on the quality of these guns/gear would be appreciated:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=56723&dept=4125&product_id=1956618&path=0%3A4125%3A56723%3A85990

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=56723&dept=4125&product_id=1956616&path=0%3A4125%3A56723%3A85990

Thanks for your input...

-langdonx

[Rugrat]

As a general rule try and stay away form kits. Teh reason why I say this that they have poorer quality gear and a bunch of stuff you don't need.

If your playing woods ball with your buddies you won't need pods, electronic sight, or video. The mask is a bottom of the line model and will prodive you prottion but will give you problems like fogging, fit, and comfort.

I suggest you try and get the gun and mask by themsleves, It may costyou a little more but you will get much better gear.

Good luck and play safe.
Rugrat

[Magnus55]

You could get a Spyder E-sprit:
http://www.pbreview.com/pics/1022964567.jpg

Decent mask, Tank, and hopper all for about the same price. And the quality of an Esprit is much better!

Even if you're not really serious about paintball now, who knows... you might be later, so you might as well have a decent setup you can upgrade rather than having to start all over again because you're embarassed to use the Brass Eagle Eradicator you bought from Walmart, when all the other guys at the field have spyders and tippmanns. Trust me, it happens. Also, if paintball isn't your thing, you'll be able to sell the Esprit to paintballer and non-paintballer alike for much more than the Eradicator. :)

[hybrid-sniper]

spring up another couple bucks and get a spyder package....much much better, plus if you ever decide to get serious, you wont have to start all over again with buying equipment.
but if you hell bent on getting one of those walmart kits, i'd say get the triton, i've owned a marauder AKA eradicator, and it was a blending chop machine, then i broke the trigger off, then i got my tippy and im happy as hell:D

[HP_Lovecraft]

If your going to just be playing in the woods with friends, then the MARUADER KIT is probobly the best gun to buy. Its a true semi-auto, and works great if properly taken care off.

Its designed exactly for people who want to play an occational game in the woods with friends.

It won't take alot of abuse, but neither will the spyders that other people are suggesting.

However, if you never plan on playing at a commercial field, then a cheapy $30 kit might be better.
It has pumps that run on 12grams, which normally would get you into trouble at a field, but when playing with friends who ALL HAVE THE SAME GUN, then it doesnt really matter.

nick

[erickillebrew]

get this stuff about a hundred all together

guns
spyder aggressor xt
http://paintballgateway.com/kispagxt.html
or
victor
http://paintballgateway.com/kinspydvic.html

mask
pmi x ray thermal
http://paintballgateway.com/pmixgosyth.html
or
jt x fire
http://paintballgateway.com/jtxfirgogsys.html

co2 tank
http://paintballgateway.com/20ozaltanwit.html

loader
http://paintballgateway.com/view200load.html

if you get the aggressor, xray goggles,co2 tank, loader it will be about 135.

p.s. check the reviews for the wal mart gun maurader(5.0) and the triton(7.8)

while the victor and the aggressor xt did better(9.0)

hope i didnt write to much

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

Originally posted by HP_Lovecraft
It won't take alot of abuse, but neither will the spyders that other people are suggesting.
nick

I have seen a maruader in all its glory, and a spyder will take a lot more abuse than the marauder. The maurauder is plastic for cryin out loud.

[Raptorz922]

The number one rule of paintball is this: Do NOT buy Brass Eagle products.

[Coenen]

The Triton has been the source of much conversation here lately, if you are seriouly going to get one of those packages thats the one to get.

However you will all be MUCH happier with lower end spyders, the Espirit is a good choice but will require a motorized loader. But an Agressor, Victor, Compact, or X-tra will serve you better with much more potential for future growth into the sport.

One more thing: DON'T SKIMP ON THE MASK!!! we can't stress that enough a cheap mask will likely provide poorer protection than one that is a few bucks more. And when paintballs are being fired at you traveling in excess of 250mph(right? or is it only 200) you will not want to be worrying about the quality of face protection you are getting.

[langdonx]

Wow, thanks for all of the excellent information.

Especially erickillebrew's links. One question though, on the gun, seems like a good idea to upgrade to the Aluminum Feed (i assume it's plastic by default).. for $12.95, do you recommend this?

[erickillebrew]

i did because i like the way it looks and i heard the plastic feed adapters break.

the only problem with the aluminum feed is it was a little loose one the hopper so i had to put some tape on the neck in order to have it have a tight fit other than that it works great.

i would recomend it, but the plastic should work fine

[elcojo98]

I'd agree with Magnus55, i don't have this gun myself but the Spyder Esprit is a great way to go for not much money. I suggest staying away from walmart alltogether unless you need some paint for not too much money, thats where i get mine because just about any paint works perfect w/ my lapco bigshot barrel. A friend of mine was stupid enough to buy a really cheap pump gun for paintball that he got from walmart, and in my woods game the pump broke straight off it. I wouldn't expect any better from those kits, it'll just be a waste of your money when they break apart.

[HP_Lovecraft]

Originally posted by Raptorz922
The number one rule of paintball is this: Do NOT buy Brass Eagle products.

Good rule.
Though, right now, most tournament players use Brass Eagle hoppers, Brass Eagle masks, and Brass Eagle jersies.
I guess they don't know about the rule.

Why not buy Brass Eagle? Yes, the Marauder is not the "best gun" in the world, but its the "best $40" gun.
The plastic is fiberglass reinforced ABS- The same stuff used on the M16, and stonger then aluminium (for weight).

Will I use a Marauder? No. I am very hard on my guns, and usually shoot 3,000 rounds every weekend.
But the average kid who plays in his backyard with friends will probobly never shoot 3,000 rounds in his life.
For him, this $40 wonder-gun represents a pretty good deal.

So lets me honest here. Yes, its easy to say "Brass Eagle sucks, get an Angel LCD" or whatever. But you have to understand the intended purpose. What advantage would the LCD give him? NONE, except it would cost alot more.

Nick

[playw/mycocker]

Originally posted by Magnus55
You could get a Spyder E-sprit:
http://www.pbreview.com/pics/1022964567.jpg

Decent mask, Tank, and hopper all for about the same price. And the quality of an Esprit is much better!

Even if you're not really serious about paintball now, who knows... you might be later, so you might as well have a decent setup you can upgrade rather than having to start all over again because you're embarassed to use the Brass Eagle Eradicator you bought from Walmart, when all the other guys at the field have spyders and tippmanns. Trust me, it happens. Also, if paintball isn't your thing, you'll be able to sell the Esprit to paintballer and non-paintballer alike for much more than the Eradicator. :)

i own this gun and it's cheap and hella reliable, definatly a great gun

[nerdcore]

Originally posted by HP_Lovecraft


Good rule.
Though, right now, most tournament players use Brass Eagle hoppers, Brass Eagle masks, and Brass Eagle jersies.
I guess they don't know about the rule.

Why not buy Brass Eagle? Yes, the Marauder is not the "best gun" in the world, but its the "best $40" gun.
The plastic is fiberglass reinforced ABS- The same stuff used on the M16, and stonger then aluminium (for weight).

Will I use a Marauder? No. I am very hard on my guns, and usually shoot 3,000 rounds every weekend.
But the average kid who plays in his backyard with friends will probobly never shoot 3,000 rounds in his life.
For him, this $40 wonder-gun represents a pretty good deal.

So lets me honest here. Yes, its easy to say "Brass Eagle sucks, get an Angel LCD" or whatever. But you have to understand the intended purpose. What advantage would the LCD give him? NONE, except it would cost alot more.

Nick

word. why squander money when those will do? lang & co aren't looking to compete in tourneys or even playing on legit fields. get whatever will save you the most money.

[DrAx0rS]

i had an eradicator before i got my Spyder, and i have to say, it did last a long time and never serously let me down.
i mean, the pin kept coming out and that was annoying, but even if you start to like paintball, the eradicator will do u for a good while.

you gotta realize, Brass Eagle is responsible for getting alot of us into PB :D

[nerdcore]

BE is even a co-sponsor of a new paintball scholarship. they might not make quality markers but they have some damn good PR skills.

[PaintballSnoopy]

Dont buy pb markers from wal mart.Theyre usually really cheap and for the same price you could get a spyder espirit like magnus said.:)

[nerdcore]

Originally posted by PaintballSnoopy
Dont buy pb markers from wal mart.Theyre usually really cheap and for the same price you could get a spyder espirit like magnus said.:)

pretty soon you might just see the esprit at walmart. they already sell xtras & imagines there.

[Coenen]

Really!!! I guess here in the boonies(not really anymore) our Wally isn't cool enough for X-tras or E-Spirits. They had Spyder Sports once, they hid 'em as far from the other stuff as possible, they had Tipps for a little while too, but not long. They still get Excell 3.0's every now and then too, but that stuff is always way overpriced.

[PBfreak01]

If you think BE sucks, let me put this to you:

Show me a pump that can be deadly in skilled hands for less then $15. You can't do it, can you? That's because there aren't any cheaper ones (if not less durable, but for $15, just buy another one).

Give me a semi that can take the abuse of a Stingray for that same price. I've seen a stingray stepped on, thrown against a tree, and dumped in a puddle, then picked up and used. Show me a spyder that can do that.

[DrAx0rS]

i aint a fan of BE but yah man u are right. ive personally tried to break a stingray also, and that definitly took more than throwing at a tree...

[chibissj]

aight guys ths thread is nearly a month old....don't bring up old threads please :). mods close this?

[Paintballa2028]

Originally posted by Coenen
The Triton has been the source of much conversation here lately, if you are seriouly going to get one of those packages thats the one to get.

However you will all be MUCH happier with lower end spyders, the Espirit is a good choice but will require a motorized loader. But an Agressor, Victor, Compact, or X-tra will serve you better with much more potential for future growth into the sport.

One more thing: DON'T SKIMP ON THE MASK!!! we can't stress that enough a cheap mask will likely provide poorer protection than one that is a few bucks more. And when paintballs are being fired at you traveling in excess of 250mph(right? or is it only 200) you will not want to be worrying about the quality of face protection you are getting.

Its not 250 mph its 250FPS (Feet per second)

[Rugrat]

No it's closer to 200 mph, 190.9 mph if your shooting 280fps.

[amzng_spyderman]

i think 300 fps = 270 mph. anyway, my stingray couldn't take nearly the same amount of punishment my spyders could. spyders > all things brass eagle.

[Coenen]

Sorry about the 250mph thing, I couldn't remember the exact figures and decided that I would err on the severe side to stress my point. 250fps is pretty slow for a field unless you are indoors.

Point is:
adequate gun=important
adequate mask=EXTREMELY IMPORTANT

[DrAx0rS]

yah man i used one of those cheap BE masks for a long time. still got it. (serious POS). anyway i just bout a VForce Armor. much better. NEVER skimp on the mask man. a bad mask makes a bad game. trust me i used the BE one for a long time.

go with a spyder. i got one and love it!

[PhoenixZERO1]

Those JT alpha masks (i think that's the 20 dollar ones :P ), my friends won't listen to me when i say they suck. Yeah well they found that out when they kept fogging...

Haha sad to say, but stingrays can withstand some massive abuse. No their not that great of a gun but they are durable.

My old Piranha took some abuse as well. It fell in a creek, got dropped of the back of a truck :eek:

I think i'll be a little more careful with my spyder eventhough i think it could take it... :)

[Six Feet Under]

Originally posted by Paintballa2028


Its not 250 mph its 250FPS (Feet per second)

Know what you're talking about before you post. He was right, it's about 200-250mph, 250 if you're shooting hot. They've translated FPS into MPH

[Silverboomstick]

I shoot about 150 fps, which is about 102 mph, but only has a momentum of less than one