Trigger Bounce?

[Guillotine]

I'm basically a noob when it comes to electros, and even more so to the omen...but my question is about how exactly trigger bounce works(I know some of you will say "this should be in the general electro forums") but, I ask here because my team captain just got an omen, and while playing in the illinois open yesterday, the ref would check his veolicty and trigger bounce, and the ref managed to make the gun just go insane on the trigger, it was pretty funny...but then he made capt turn the bounce down...

I really wanna know how trigger bounce works and how you are supposed to control something like that on an omen(I shoulda asked my capt, but i'm not sure he would be able to explain it, lol)

[BourneKiller]

Trigger bounce is when the trigger is so short that the actual reciprocation (movement) of the gun firing will move the trigger away and then back against the microswitch.

Basically, if you can "sweetspot" the trigger, ie, find a full auto mode by just holding your finger just right, then that's illegal. You can turn that down by a variety of ways. One way, which is completely dependent on the gun itself, is to turn down the reaction time, so that the circuit board will recieve that 2nd bounce (the one generated from the gun's movement), and it'll discard it.

The easiest way is to just lengthen the trigger pull by about .5 mm.

[Mcot2]

The bounce on the omen is not from the trigger moving, it is because they used a cheap micro switch which vibrates when the gun fires and makes it go off more tie trigger.mes then you pull th

[Mcot2]

Trigger bounce is defined as more than one shot per trigger pull, that is illgal, regardless of waether or not it goes full auto when you find the sweetspot.

[Guillotine]

sweet, thanks for the info guys.

[Spartan 2]

But usually they let it slide if it's no more then a 4 ball string...I can get my viking out of the box to do a 50 ball string....that is illegal.

[BourneKiller]

Well, if you can get any sort of trigger bounce with your gun, then you can hold that sweetspot.

There won't be some "magical" cap of 4 or 5 balls in a string that they could sweetspot it, if they hear/feel that short string, they'll try harder to get it.

[Mcot2]

I know what your saying.. makes sense.

But I wouldnt be to worried about small amounts of bounce, several people ive talked to that have done major tourneys and minor ones say noone checks there guns at all, and in my own tourney experince they have never checked my gun at a tourney. Heck one guy I talked to said they never chronied him at all in an entire super 7 event.

[Spartan 2]

Well at IAO they were VERY strict.

[BourneKiller]

That info I gave was straight from the mouth of Dan Bonebrake, owner of the Pan-Am circuit, Planet Paintball, Warpaint International, and the beloved Dan Bonebrake Airsmithing (www.danbonebrake.com).

[Guillotine]

Originally posted by Spartan 2
But usually they let it slide if it's no more then a 4 ball string...I can get my viking out of the box to do a 50 ball string....that is illegal.

yeah, I got to shoot a viking for the first time at the IL state open...and the guy showed me his trigger bounce...wow, it was crazy...and the gun was amazing too(just another name to add to my list of which electro I want to get now, lol)

and yeah, at the IL state open they were very strict about trigger bounce...but kinda dumb about others(like my teammate has a rock on his BKO, and no tourny lock for the rock knob, so after 6 games they finally just noticed that he could turn up his LPR midgame(which he wasn't) and get a higher velocity, so they gave him 2 minutes to either get a new gun or get a tourny lock, needless to say, we played a man down and lost that match, possibly costing us the finals...sorry, i'm done ranting)