View Full Version : If i pour water through my gun..will it affect it?
Speedballer109
09-17-2003, 11:43 AM
Ok i took apart my gun except my expansion chamber from my gun, it's different from what u think, anyways, if i pour water through the gun will it affect my x-chamber,? if any water gets i would just blow it out with blowing air though it, but will it affect my gun later on?:D :confused:
VeNoM
09-17-2003, 11:56 AM
If you clean it, dry it and oil it, it should be fine. When you are done be sure to cycle the oil and clear out the marker by dry firing it to make sure it is ok...
Speedballer109
09-17-2003, 12:08 PM
Yeah, i mean i have cleaned my gun hundreds of times but i have never poured water through the body? I just don't wont water to get in my x-chamber, and if it does it shouldn't affect it cause Liquid C02 goes through a x-chamber so a bit of water wouldn't do much right?:)
HP_Lovecraft
09-17-2003, 01:21 PM
Actually, many gun manafacturers test there guns by charging them up and DUNKING THEM IN WATER.
This is an easy way to spot leaks, and other flaws in the pnueumatics.
Anyway, yes you can do it.
However, if you gun has any electronics, obviously remove them.
Also, make sure you wipe dry any steel parts right away. They will rust!
nick
FPS 300
09-17-2003, 01:49 PM
Steel? Erm... I believe IRON rusts. Iron oxide... you know...
HP_Lovecraft
09-17-2003, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by FPS 300
Steel? Erm... I believe IRON rusts. Iron oxide... you know...
Heh...
Steel is made from Iron. (ie Car bodies are made from Steel,etc).
Nick
Speedballer109
09-17-2003, 06:24 PM
Thanks for the info but what about my x-chamber, i won't be able to wipe off the inside...i'll just run air through it so it will get all of it out...:) , thanks again;)
FPS 300
09-17-2003, 07:27 PM
Blah. Figured I'd still be wrong somehow. Good job on your science homework :|
Magnus55
09-17-2003, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by HP_Lovecraft
Actually, many gun manafacturers test there guns by charging them up and DUNKING THEM IN WATER.
This is an easy way to spot leaks, and other flaws in the pnueumatics.
Anyway, yes you can do it.
However, if you gun has any electronics, obviously remove them.
Also, make sure you wipe dry any steel parts right away. They will rust!
nick
I've fully submerged my gun underwater and shot it before. Remember our paintball experiments back in the day? Just so long as you dry everything off and oil it (like people already said) your gun will be fine. :)
Note: I shouldn't even have to say this, but do not try this on elecrtonic guns. :D
Speedballer109
09-18-2003, 03:00 AM
Thank Mag, i know not to submurge my electric parts of gun, ok the so i'll pour water through it, then just dry it, run some air through the x-chamber tp get all the water out and oil it up...
Thanks again:P
Arcanum
09-18-2003, 07:20 AM
Steel=Iron+Aluminum basically. Also, I belive that my Automag RT's manual said to gas the gun up and dip it in warm water to clean it...It's been a year or so. Just make sure you dry everything out first, becaue the co2 would cause the water to freeze and hard frozen particles floating around inside your gun's air system just doesn't sound like a good thing to me.
Silencer.1
09-18-2003, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by Arcanum
Steel=Iron+Aluminum basically.
LOL! Steel is a varying mix of iron, nickel, copper and carbon. Aluminum is WAY too soft and is also of the wrong crystal structure to ever make an effective alloy with iron. I do so love it when people pull info out of their butt. :P
But anyways, Water won't hurt your gun. Heck, Palmer's manual for their recommends you take the gun into the shower with you.
Creek
09-18-2003, 05:00 PM
but after you do, your suppose to blow dry it off :D
Speedballer109
09-18-2003, 05:12 PM
Thanks for the info guy...big help, and are we doing Science in here or what?:confused: , ..bahahaha:P , like i said thanks again, i will dry it off completly...:)
Sladerson
09-20-2003, 06:05 PM
I took everything off of the body until there was nothing to take off. Then I ran water through it. I dried everything off, but how do I oil it. Ive never oiled anything on my gun besides the ASA. What and how should I oil it? So to clean my gun, I should take it into the shower with me, dry fire it, and then take it apart and dry it?
Magnus55
09-20-2003, 06:19 PM
Well... what type of gun do you have?
p8ntball1016
09-20-2003, 06:21 PM
he has a spyder tl plus.
Magnus55
09-20-2003, 06:30 PM
Oil the bolt, oil the sear, and the... damn I can't think of the name right now, but it's the piece that the sear catches on to hold your trigger in the cocked positionthat is directly below the bolt... the striker? oil any threading that gets screwed in (including the vertical adapter, expansion chamber/gas through grip etc etc) and the ASA. :)
Crash Danger
09-20-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Silencer.1
LOL! Steel is a varying mix of iron, nickel, copper and carbon. Aluminum is WAY too soft and is also of the wrong crystal structure to ever make an effective alloy with iron. I do so love it when people pull info out of their butt. :P
But anyways, Water won't hurt your gun. Heck, Palmer's manual for their recommends you take the gun into the shower with you.
This sparked my interest and I looked it up on HowStuffWorks.com
Creating Steel
Steel is iron that has most of the impurities removed. Steel also has a consistent concentration of carbon throughout (0.5 percent to 1.5 percent). Impurities like silica, phosphorous and sulfur weaken steel tremendously, so they must be eliminated. The advantage of steel over iron is greatly improved strength...
...A variety of metals might be alloyed with the steel at this point to create different properties. For example, the addition of 10 percent to 30 percent chromium creates stainless steel, which is very resistant to rust. The addition of chromium and molybdenum creates chrome-moly steel, which is strong and light.
so you're right
p8ntball1016
09-20-2003, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Magnus55
Oil the bolt, oil the sear, and the... damn I can't think of the name right now, but it's the piece that the sear catches on to hold your trigger in the cocked positionthat is directly below the bolt... the striker? oil any threading that gets screwed in (including the vertical adapter, expansion chamber/gas through grip etc etc) and the ASA. :) or be a lazy bum like me and put oil in the asa and dry fire.
Crash Danger
09-20-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by p8ntball1016
or be a lazy bum like me and put oil in the asa and dry fire.
does a tl+ have a gauge? I know oil is bad for gauges for some reason.
Maybe I'll look that up on howstuffworks.com...
Magnus55
09-20-2003, 07:38 PM
A TL+ doesn't have a gauge, just a normal ASA. Oh yeah when you oil your gun you'll want to remove your barrel so the oil doesn't get into it. People say an oiled barrel reduces accuracy. :)
Cuervo
09-20-2003, 08:22 PM
Why not just take off your Expansion chamber? It's threaded for a reason.
Havoc Hunter
09-22-2003, 03:58 PM
DRY IT THOROUGHLY!!!!!! And then Oil it up as if it were new and dusty. Also, try not to do it too much.
HP_Lovecraft
09-22-2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by p8ntball1016
or be a lazy bum like me and put oil in the asa and dry fire.
Nothing wrong with that method! ;)
Anyway, since he has a spyder, he probobly doesnt even need to dry it...
Dunk it... then fire it.
There is no chance of water "freezing" in the EC since liquid CO2 is actually room temperature.
nick
FallNAngel
09-22-2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by HP_Lovecraft
There is no chance of water "freezing" in the EC since liquid CO2 is actually room temperature.
True and false... yes it's room temperature.. but it expanding to a gas quickly could cause the water to freeze I believe... assuming it weren't blown out by the blast of air.. but you get the idea ;)
Speedballer109
09-22-2003, 06:37 PM
BTW...Magnuss i loved your little blank out about the striker...:laugh: , funny stuff, anyways thanks alot you guys...:)
woramorf
09-23-2003, 03:46 PM
If water gets in your air system (like your valve) and you use co2 the co2 will freeze the water instantly, that could be bad.
HP_Lovecraft
09-23-2003, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by woramorf
If water gets in your air system (like your valve) and you use co2 the co2 will freeze the water instantly, that could be bad.
Why?
Water is still a liquid at 800psi. Actually, the freezing point is lower too, around -10c.
Liquid CO2 itself is not cold.
The water would be blow out of the barrel. People have been doing this since the start of paintball.
Nick
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