Why Do People...... (Mystery)

[Jackel]

Decide to put so much money and time into creating a paintball gun that replicates a true weapon? Is there some hidden value in this? This is paintball, not war and by making M4 Carbine replicas, you are attempting to make paintball a war. I see no redeeming quality in doing this. It might be impressive, intimidating, and maybe even cool, but the bottom line is that it makes it more war-like. Kinda like the Tippman 98 Squadbusters with their grenades launchers. I think it's dumb personally. Costs way to much too, you could really trick a gun out with that kind of cash. Just venting.

[Richy_C]

You are my new best friend.


BTW, if anyone associates paintball with war in one of the forums i mod, the post will be deleted w/o warning. Be warned.



That sounded wierd

[blake_sw]

Why do people put so much money into their guns? Because they can.

Why is there another thread like this? Because you're Richy's new best friend.

$$$ = better guns. Okeys? Get $$$, get better gun!

[Richy_C]

he was talkingabout war replics, not better guns

[PoInT BlAnK]

i totally agree why not get a better gun for 1000 bucks rather than buy a stock spyder with a m-16 body.....pointless....yes, yes it is

hey guys i got a m-16 paintball gun im a commando :freak: durrr....durrrr.....duurrrrrrr

[Mephistopheles]

Well, people like the look of a real gun. You may not, but some do.

This isn't war? Well, not speedball.

But last time I checked, over 99% of all players are recballers who wear camo bdu's usually, and you may not like it, but some of them do like the look and everything of a war.

Ok, if it looks like an AK or a Gotcha-Gun... does it really matter to the general public? They don't care, they see it in any light shown that we're shooting at each other with guns.

But either way, even if they don't like war, but just like the look of a real gun. Hell, I know some people from the NRA that collect guns just because of the look and pride they get from it. And a person doesn't need to be a member of that in order to have the same liking to a guns' look.

Now if it makes it war like or not.... fact is the entire concept is war like. The point is to run around, and not get shot while trying to shoot the other person. Now... isn't that what war is? To not get hit yourself while shooting them?

But you wouldn't know that by sugar-coating this whole game w/ flashy colors and jerseys.

Paintball was invented by people that also wanted to imitate a war-like concept. Even though they used paint-sponges instead of balls. The heart, soul, and root of this whole sport is imitating war. If it looks flashy or camoed up... doesn't matter. Inside it's all the same, no matter how it looks.

[elTwitcho]

Actually, paintball was made by 2 friends named Hayes Noel and Charles Gaines (pardon the spelling on those names). The 2 of them had started a discussion when Gaines (who was a hunter) essentially said to Hayes that he'd be "dead meat if he was alone in the woods" against him. From there, they began a conversation on what sorts of skills and types of people would be more suited to surviving in the wilderness. Hayes believed that survival skills were transferable, if he could survive on the stock market, he could survive in the woods. Charles thought otherwise. So the 2 of them had this conversation for months until George Butler found something in a farming catalog that he showed to the 2 of them. It was an NSG Splatmaster (though, not called by that name, it was called the splatmaster after it started being used for paintball, and NSG was the company Hayes started to distribute this marker). So the 2 of them ordered these guns and had a duel. When it was over they were already making plans for the next one, and getting friends involved. The original idea of the game was not to simulate war but to test survival skills. The reason people see war actually started with the camo gear. People wore camo then not to simulate the military, but because it made the most sense to wear that in the woods. True some people want paintball to be war these days, but that wasnt the way it was ever intended to be

[magicsly1]

The begening of a whole new era. The paintball era. By the way twitch i love the speech.

[Richy_C]

And they were useing balls, not sponges. I have not devoted so much time to paintball to have it be called war infront of my face. I don't know, but i don't do it just to shoot people, thats malice. I do it for fun and the rush, and the friends i make doing it. Everytime i go, i make atleast 3 new friends, regardless of whether i ever see them again, i will always remember them. I didn't start this jazzing up or prettying up thing, the game evolved that way, and i went with it. I don't where jerseys or shoot a nicely annoed gun for the sports image (well i kinda do but thats another story) I do it because it looks cool, and gets alot of ohhhhhhhand aaaaaaas from people. I don't where camo because i don't want to look like a fool on the speedball field where there is no point in camo, more or less, jerseys are the camo. I don't pay 60 bucks a go everytime i play for some war game, i'd do that for airsoft, but thats like no fun and that is a war game from my understanding. I play tourney style paintball, where every one knows it's not war and it's just a game. So you can go think it's war, as long as you keep that image to yourself and don't get the game raped by politicians.

[Magadeth]

Rich, I agree with what you are saying about paintball not being war, real warfare is a terrible digusting evil thing. Paintball is also not 'cowboys and indians' The shamefull truth of that whole farce is that our government (U.S) perpetrated genocide on the native Americans in order to steal there land.
But how many of us played 'war' or 'cowboys and indians' as children and had a perfectly good time doing so? Does that make us bad people? Does it mean that children are as evil as the events we played at? I think not. Paintballers 'playing' at war in a scenario game are the same as those kids, only a little older, and with nicer toys.

As for the political issue. I think it is a huge mistake to try to pander to the politicians and Rosy O'donnels Million moms. (More like a couple thousand) These people do not know what the sport is and do not care. Most of them do the things they do, not out of any real concern for the facts or results of thier actions, but so that they can be in the limelight and appear to be doing something.

Those of us engaged in the struggle to preserve our constitutional rights are familiar with how these people operate. First they want to ban one small thing, and when that becomes accepted, they move on to the next small thing and then the next, until there is nothing left.

Bowing to pressure and making the sport more politically correct will I believe, in the long run be self defeating. In protecting anything you love you should be proud of it and not try to sugercoat what it is, to appease people who really dont care to try to learn what it is anyways.

Paintballers who express the opinion that the sport should only be played on professional speedball fields are playing right into this trap.

First it will become Illegal to play anywhere other than a government approved field, then they will ban full auto, Then semi auto, and as the sport loses popularity as a result, they will ban the whole thing.

Currently, the Nanny government types are on the way out. People in this country are starting to realize that their freedom is being eroded and that is why Al Gore is not our president. I dont think anyone is really making an issue of coming after paintball from a "Its warlike" standpoint. The antigunners (the same folks likely to come after paintball) are on the run and ducking for cover, trying to save whats left of thier political careers.

The only major threat to our sport as I see it now is these stupid kids who use markers to do drivebys on there friends, or to vandalize thier schools. We as paintballers need to impress upon anyone new to the sport that THIS IS NOT COOL, AND IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. I dont see any bad publicity generated by camo wearing paintballers out in the woods having a good time, but it seems like kids useing markers inappropriately is a growing trend.

[Jackel]

Okay, some of you have found that offensive I see. Anyway, this is not war. I admit to running around in a BDU and in a ghillie suit, but it is only b/c it helps me with the SPORT! This is a sport, not a, "I'm gonna blast your butt and spit on your grave," type of thing, this is a sport that should be played fairly. I'm sorry if that offends anyone or thier guns, but I just cannot see the logic of it, espeically when Rusty himself (the creator of all of these special markers) that the guns do little more that add looks and maybe feel a bit more comfortable.

[Magadeth]

I dont think you offended anyone.? The only thing close to offensive in this thread was the Ohh durrrr comment, and even thats really not that bad. (Unless you are one of the people who bought one of those tricked out spyders with the m4 furniture.) The rest of it seemed to be polite well thought out conversation and debate.:)

[frenchtoastdude]

I hve a question is it spelled weird or wierd. Everyone is spelling it wierd and its confusing me because it sounds like weird.

[Magnus55]

I before E except after C...` um.... except in some words like weird and... that's all I remember. :laugh:

[Richy_C]

weird

that's how the spell check made it

[elTwitcho]

Originally posted by magicsly1
The begening of a whole new era. The paintball era. By the way twitch i love the speech.

As luck would have it, you CAN actually learn something on the net

[The Billionare]

Twitch, you a-hole. I hate your avatar, yet, somehow I find it strangely attractive. I can just picture the rest of it, man, that's horrible.

We are protected by our inalienable right to be drafted by our country, hauled off to the beaches of Normandy, the green in kaisan or the sands of Iraq to kill people who should attempt to oppress our freedom, yet strangely enough we have nothing to fear, but fear itself, nameless, unreasoning, unjustifiable terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.

No one will ever be able to successfully ban paintball. Paintguns will simply be taken off the shelves of wal-mart/k-mart so these chimps can't get their grubby hands on cheap markers for cheap thrills. Brass Eagle strikes again!!!