Ghillie

[firekow]

Is ghillie really THAT n00bish? I mean, I own a crappy suit and my brother wants one, and I can hide really easily while wearing it. Now, I'm not one of those sniper freaks that absolutely needs an idiotically long barrel, stock class feed system and 12 grams (N/O to stock players of course, I'm just not a woodsball sniper type thing), I just like to be able to ambush people. So I guess what the question here is, Is ghillie n00bish in my case? Is ghillie n00bish in any case? and in which cases is ghillie n00bish? yeah, they all sound the same, but read 'em. Thanks.

[teufelhunden]

I feel it is, because by the time your within a range where a hit is probable, the opponent is close enough to discern a ghillie from the surrounding environment.

[beefums]

Ghille suits are cool if you are going to ambush people. They are not for newbies.. well depending how you play. If you are going to play speedball, you just wasted like 100 bucks. If you are going to the woods, alright. You have a good investment. Just be aware of the rules that most scenario fields have about ghillie suits. Some fields say that if you get shot with the ghillie suit you are automatically out (even if it doesnt break) because its easy for the shots to bounce off all the shrubbage.

[UTLadiesMan]

I once played against a guy in a full ghille. (remember, this was like 6 years ago :P) He took out 6 guys in one game with a stock phantom! Of course... this was at dusk and we were playing in like 3 feet of grass. :P

[firekow]

For the record, my half decent suit, minus the BDUs, cost me about 15 bucks canadian to make.

[beefums]

See thats a real suit, you actually made it. Most people go and they buy the thing from a website or ebay. As I like to call it "ghillie in a box"

[hybrid-sniper]

i dont really mind people using em, as long as they dont layer on so much that its impossible for paint to break. it may seem noobish but its a smart idea, its just common to think of a someone with a ghillie suit on as either a verteran or a noob.....either or, all depends. its really weird when your walking along and you see like 3 shots fly past your face then what looked like a bush running away:eyes:

[Magnus55]

I think they're cool in the right situations. Coming onto a speedball field dressed as a bush is just silly. But if you're playing in the woods, being dressed as a bush actually makes a lot of sense. :D

[starboarder2001]

I haven't played in the woods in such a long time so what I am saying is just from what I have seen reffing. In a place with lots of brush and cover I think it may help some, but if you are in a open field or if the woods are not thick then by the time they are in range they could easily spot you. IMO hiding until someones back is facing 5 feet away really doesn't show much skill, but I imagine It could be very fun :). I have heard people say similar things about speedball "It takes no skill..they just have fast guns" so I am probably wrong about that last statement. :D

[mrpsycho]

First you gotta know what a noob really is to find out if its noobish. if you mean that they just got into paintball kind of noob and don't know what there doing and want to put a guillie suit on, i guess thats pretty noobish. but what about those ex army guys or other people who have been playing paintball for a long time that just like that kind of stuff. thats not noobish. you may think its silly, but they probably don't.

[Sniper15]

i made a ghillie suit and i think its fun to use. i love to ambush people and see the stunned look on their faces when their shot and have no idea where it came from. ghillie suits are fun to use on big woods fields, but for speedball-no. it completely depends on how you like to play. i dont use it every time i play woods. sometimes i'm in the sniping mood, sometimes i'm in the Rambo mood and play up front.;)

[Blacksheep]

Ghillie suits are effectivly useless at paintball ranges. Visual identification and aquisition at ranges of less than 50m is quite easy on a ghillie suit, even if the player properly uses natural materials to enahance his suit.

The problem is the human eye itself...it easily detects and then identifies color, shape, and contrast from 150m, and can go out to 250m as proven by a study the US Military did some years ago.

The second problem is movement...paintball is LIGHTFIGHTING, it requires fast movement to take and hold ground. Ghillie suits are heavy and slow movement, tangle on the brush and create movment and extra noise, and often do not match the environment. These lime green ghillies might as well be signs that say, "Here I am, light me up!"

Then there is the fire issue, over-heating issue, and the bouncing they cause...they catch balls even from 15m away, an unfair advantage.

[firekow]

Okay, For the record I'm not talking about the full body suits that make you look like chewbacca, I'm talking about a jacket only (no arms, partial front) ghillie suit. It's almost a shawl, for lack of a better word. It isn't really heavy at all, and for the conditions in which I play, the color is a decent match. The heat is pretty much what you'd expect from a standard BDU shirt. it's really not bad at all, and seeing as how I don't use matches on the field or smoke at all, fire isn't a problem. The point you made about the range was good though, blacksheep, but with my specific suit most of the other issues you mentionned were things I had no real problems with. Thanks for the posting, everyone.

[Raptorz922]

For one, they will only really work in outlawball because feilds simply don't have enough time to have someone camping in the woods waiting for someone to come along. Second, I think wearing a ghillie suit is really cheap. With all that loose fabric, it's unlikely that a ball will actually break. If a ball did break, all you would have to do is move the strands around a little to cover up the paint.

[starboarder2001]

Originally posted by Raptorz922
With all that loose fabric, it's unlikely that a ball will actually break. If a ball did break, all you would have to do is move the strands around a little to cover up the paint.

that is why some fields ban them. :|

[Chill_Bebop]

Ghillie suit+Woods=:tup:


Ghillie suit+Speedball Course=:tdown:

[Crash Danger]

speedball ghille suit:

[UTLadiesMan]

Originally posted by Crash Danger
speedball ghille suit:

LOL

I always wondered what would happen if someone showed up wearing a giant inflatable bunker like balloon. :P

[firekow]

the best part about ghillie is that it can be used for other things as well. For instance, a hell of a lot of fun during halloween. that's my plan for this year anyways.

Wouldnt the perfect woods camo be to dress up as a tree instead of a bush? I mean, people are gonna expect ghillie now, we need a new thingamabob. like, make a human totem pole and camo it up as a tree or something, it could always work.

[teufelhunden]

I actually dress up like a river, little fishies and all!

[firekow]

Originally posted by teufelhunden
I actually dress up like a river, little fishies and all!

:laugh:

[HP_Lovecraft]

Originally posted by Blacksheep
Ghillie suits are effectivly useless at paintball ranges. Visual identification and aquisition at ranges of less than 50m is quite easy on a ghillie suit, even if the player properly uses natural materials to enahance his suit.


You miss the point.

Does sniping exist in paintball? Yes. People do it every weekend.
Is sniping an effective tactic in paintball? No. Its usually counterproductive.

Why do people do it? newbs do it because they don't know any better. Pros due it because they are bored with standard paintball.

Thats how I feel about Ghillie suits. The purpose is for fun.
I could say that fancy annos and custom machine work are useless for paintball. Thats missing the point.

Anyway, "real" ghillie suits are banned at most fields because they tend to bounce balls. I've used those nice RealTree "3D" suits which has thousands of nylon leaves sown into a mesh fabric. This is the best ghillie-type suit for paintball applications.
It can be used effectively if you alter your playing style. However, its difficult to explain to people who have the "speedball" mindset. For example, you won't give away your position if you only fire 1 ball every 30 seconds.

nick

[IromKnight]

If you really enjoy playing in camo head to toe, and it makes you a better player, go for it. Who cares what other people say.