Professional paintballers?

[mothon]

My friend plays on a team and he plays in a lot of tournaments. He went to LA to play in a professional tournament for the first time, and he said the best players were the ones that could cheat the best and he is not going to play in a pro tournament for a while.

[blake_sw]

What team is he on??

There is ALOT of Bias and cheating in NPPL, SO MUCH ****ING CHEATING. It's almost like WWF now, if your team isn't popular the refs will judge you alot harder. But if you're on a well known and succesful team, refs will let **** slide all the time.
PISSES ME OFF, one of the main reasons I don't want to play NPPL and will probably do Pan-Am when I get the chance (still not for another 1-2 years :P)

[DontKillWhitey]

I dont play tournerys becouse i dont endorse professional cheating.

[JorynnRace]

Its so true... If you watch the KAPP video or any other professional tourney video, you'll see it. The refs let stuff slide for some teams and not for others. They hunt down one team for every splatter, and not the other team.

And do the players ever cheat! You see wiping, hiding from refs to wipe etc etc... its sad really... they have to hire better unbiased refs.

[elTwitcho]

Hey!!! The pros have ALOT of talent and it takes a ton of pure skill and endurance to play at that level!! Do you have any idea how quick and agile Lasoya has to be to simulataneously wipe paint from his goggles, hopper and leg while bunkering someone and still have the ref miss the whole thing? No, I didnt think so...

There are teams that play clean though, namely alot of the guys in Europe. The most publicized of these being the Russian Legion. Reffing is also much better at the European level, and they generally dont let sh*** slide for nobody. Admitedly, pros still wipe and get away with it, but it's not as tolerated or prolific there as it is here. The reffing is supposedly so bad in the NPPL that the russians wont even play it as a result. Food for thought

[pr0kch0p]

food. something the russian army doesn't have :P

more food for thought.

[Sid]

Yes well the Russian Legion has Olympic grade coches and an Olyppic sized budget.. they take it more seriously.

[Valadian]

Huh, well thats surprising, I've never really sat and watched professional PBall that much, so I never knew they cheated, or that they cheated as bad as you all describe.

Question though: Do you guys find alot of amateur and low level tournaments to have alot of cheaters? Or is it better regulated in those? Cause I've been thinking about entering into a couple but if its just a cheat fest, I'll just stick to playing recreationally.

[blake_sw]

Originally posted by Valadian

Question though: Do you guys find alot of amateur and low level tournaments to have alot of cheaters? Or is it better regulated in those? Cause I've been thinking about entering into a couple but if its just a cheat fest, I'll just stick to playing recreationally.

Most cheating takes place in the professional leagues, NPPL for example. Regardless of class, teams in the NPPL still cheat. I'd imagine that Rookie or first time teams wouldn't cheat.
In local/state or regional tournaments the cheaters are few. At a small one I played I only remember 1 person who ignored an obvious hit. There was 12 teams in this tourney, all Rookie/Novice.

[Richy_C]

Team lock out takes absolutly no sh** from anyone while they ref. Play APL, it's much more friendly on the budget and less cheaters, but the refs usually suck though. The only cheaters i saw at the IAO were in the 3 man, some hispanic dudes might as well have brought some toilet paper on the field.


I don't cheat, i never stand for sheaters on my team, but i'm pretty much alone in that statment when it comes to big tourneys