Sniper Rifles

[Jamez Bond]

I need to know what the best sniper guns are- only expirience is what I want in this poll. And please reply to how well set- up the gun has to be.

[Mission540]

Your best sniper gun is going to be accurate and quiet. I don't worry about range because I can get within 50ft of the mark. The gun I use is a spyder compact with a 16" boomstick which works great and it's extremely accurate. On the inside I have a force II cyclone bolt, magna port valve, and spring kit and I'm currently setting it up for low preassure.

[Predator2]

pretty much any lp system w/ a good barrel would give you a good sniper gun

[Jamez Bond]

I think a HPA setup, accurate sight, bolt, and barrel are the foundation of the gun. Loud is'nt that much of a proble, if you think about it. If you hit them, they can't hear you!

[Mission540]

Ya, but the rest of his team can hear you.

[Predator2]

why an hpa system? it would only deform the ball as it comes out fo the barrel which would make it less accurate.

[Jamez Bond]

No- it would make it more accurate. HPA is more consistent- CO2 changes temperature as you shoot and get's worse in cold weather- you have to sight it in before every matcBut that is true- they will heear you. But if the group is big enough, they'll just get confused and take brush shots. Snipers are good at confusion, which leads to chaos. Chaos can be controlled. Whoa- freaky quote.

[Pakman]

I wanted to buy the "ultimate" sniper gun when I was looking for a new gun but there is no "ultimate" sniper gun. My Autococker could easily tag you from 150-200 feet with a clear line of sight. Just depends on what you like and important factors to a sniper, i.e. stealth, accuracy, consistency, etc.

[Jamez Bond]

And I could pop one in your a$$ from 100ft.- without you knowing i'm there in the woods. That's with a stock Stingray 2. It's all expirience. You know where the balls are going at 20ft, 40ft, 50ft, ect. ect. Accuracy and consistency are'nt worth jack if you don't know where it's going. Some guns, like raptors, have been costomized. Since there are 3 sight rails, snipers take advantage. Left is sighted in to 25 ft., right is at 50ft., and middle is at 75 ft. Very pricy buying 3 sights, a bolt, and barrel. But it works. Are there any other guns as abidexturous as raptors? Move the cocking knob over, and side rails on each side. Are there any other guns with side rails, for example?

[Jamez Bond]

Is'nt it impossible to get that range without a flatline? Do you have to aiim at an angle?

[BIG JOHNSON]

I have a Model 98 with a 14" PMI Pursuit barrel. So far it works great. In my opinion any gun can be a sniper gun as long as you use it right.

[Jamez Bond]

exactly- but the best sniper could'nt make a 1 in 1000000 shot with a talon- not happening. If you have an OK gun, and you're good enough, you could make one of those shots.

[BIG JOHNSON]

I agree with you JB.

[Jamez Bond]

All this and I've been playing a year!

[Cory]

I wouldn't go with any of the ones in the poll...i would go for a shocker...they are really quiet, and they have great range. i was able to tag someone at 140 feet last weekend with one shot. i was able to get someone in the open at 180 feet with 5 shots...the shocker is your best bet.

[Jamez Bond]

Yeah, but my budget excludes all but used electronics for $150, more or less. Besides, paint is hard to find cheaply here, so I have to use BE. And BE guns are well suited for our style- cheap, unbreakable, and they are the only guns that shoot the enormous BE paint without breaking every other ball.

[Mainmanballer]

The best sniper gun which is mainly used for this area is a phantom...they are by far the best for sniping

[Jamez Bond]

Phantom- The stock class gun? The best 3 I've seen are Angels, Palmer Typhoons, and Stingray 2's with barrel and bolt upgrades. Believe it or not, the stingray is an exellant gun- and can be adapted to fit any role.

[ssgohan]

a good sniper couldnt hit a target one out of 1000000? no sorry. a monkey could be taught to shoot more accurately.

[Jamez Bond]

Not with a talon. You'll need years of expirience to get good, and I mean GOOD.

[ssgohan]

have you ever tried the talon? it has basically the accuracy of a ray w/ pump action. and despite what many people say the ray aint too bad.

[Mission540]

It takes more then being a good shot to be a good sniper. Good snipers can anaylize the terrian and choose positions were he'll have a clear shot at the other team and were the other team wouldn't expect him to be. Also, good snipers should be able to function independently from thier team. So, don't think because your gun is accurate and has good range that you your a good sniper. There is a whole lot more to it.

[Jamez Bond]

I know- gun has little to do with it. But if you play friends like me, they know your style- and spots. The tigershark IS a pump ray- and I use a ray. Pretty good, exept the trigger and feel.

[Mad Ogre]

Can't beat a Flatline for snipers.
Not if your serious about pure sniping. It's the paintball equivelent of a PSG-1

[Jamez Bond]

A what? A flatline is for range- there are better barrels that don't arc at close range.

[Mission540]

Ya, you can do just as good with a boomstick or other high end barrel.

[Jamez Bond]

I don't think the barrel has to cost a lot- the cheapest barrel here got a 9.7!

[Mission540]

Which one was that?

[Keikan]

I use an autococker with a 16in boomstick, Everyone I know claims its the quietest gun they have seen.

[giller]

Originally posted by Mission540
Your best sniper gun is going to be accurate and quiet. I don't worry about range because I can get within 50ft of the mark. The gun I use is a spyder compact with a 16" boomstick which works great and it's extremely accurate. On the inside I have a force II cyclone bolt, magna port valve, and spring kit and I'm currently setting it up for low preassure.




hhey where do you get the force II cyclone bolt,magna portvalve, and spring kit

presheyate a "re:" tnx

[giller]

according to the reviews bommstix are good but overpriced

[Jamez Bond]

ya- I was amazzed the cheapest barrel got a 9.7! I might have to get this 32 degrees Terminator and try it out.

[Mission540]

If you get a chance to try it out, let me know how it performs.

[giller]

I ordered a terminator this past friday and I should be gettin it soon. .also ,my buddy is a gen mngr. @ the local feild. He said he would let me test drive a pmi ceramic 14 in.. Does anyone have one or heard the performance on that?????

[ssgohan]

i heard that it is good but the bore is inconsistent do to the fact that it is coated w/ ceramic. if you want that barrel then dont buy it off the internet. you need to test it w/ the paintballs you use to find the right size.

[giller]

thanx sshogan for the 411 0n pmi ceramic I never thought of that ./..I think that the carbon fiber barrels would probably have the same issues due to its method of construction, although im sure that both types are cnc machined to caliber. ill have to call the makers to find out.

[Skull]

Believe it or not a tigershark makes an awesome sniper gun. Add a scope, a new barrel, and maybe a 9v hopper. The trigger pulls a lil stiff, but thats not a big deal since u'r not goin for rate of fire when u snipe.

[Jamez Bond]

I know- rays make EXELLENT sniper rifles with the right stuff, and i figured a tigershark would be more accurate. I preffer semis to pumps- You can get a second shot off, and you don't have to move. I would'nt trust an autococker for sniping, though. Too heavy, and too fragile. I don't trust them too survive where snipers put them. But- if you get in a tight spot- you know it will fight you back out.

[Skull]

Bond, how long will it take peeps like us to convence neone that BE guns r as good as the player that uses them. If i find one more post on this whole forum bout how bad BE guns suck, i'm gonna unload on the guy that posted it!!*

[Jamez Bond]

ya man. Ya. I forgot to mention- but when you rate them- try to remember that you will be dragging this through the dirt, mud, banging it into crap, and it can't have too much Shiny paint or bright colors.

If u go for a Palmer's gun go for the "typhoon"nasty typhoon":::::in james bond voice::::: or the shizocker

[Jamez Bond]

I would'nt want that double barreled one- WAY too heavy- twice as loud, and goes through more paint. That- and if you get a splooge- which barrel was it that you have to clean? That and they are pretty expensive.

[giller]

that and.....

Yeah but u know how usually when u miss a shot u only miss it by bout an inch or two well with the N Typhoon its gonna go 2 shots so there goes that inch wich with the single barrel u would miss and think of that rate of fire added together !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jamez Bond]

Well- you are missing the friggin point. Snipers learn not to miss- and if they do- you take another shot. And from what I've heard- typhoons are some of the most accurate guns in the world. Just loud and expensive- and thy have a 2-stage trigger.

So just make an at home silencer i did to my spyder and it worked really nicely.

[Skull]

I don't think it's possible to make a silencer for a double barreled gun?!!! I could be wrong, but really think about it.

[Jamez Bond]

Ya it is- just attach like, 2 paper towel rolls on the end- and put it on the space between the barrels.

[FlyBoyNZ]

The best and most accurate pump is the PHANTOM from CCI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is $200 though

[EvilAngel2001]

Hate to burst anyone's bubble or break anyone's heart but when you guys discuss and talk about your scopes and stuff, I find it kind of funny. You see, paintballs do not go straight. Do you hear me? paintballs do not go straight! Yes, they can be accurate but when you guys talk about scopes I can only hope you are mentioning and adding them to your gun so that you can collect intelligence on enemy movements and survey terrain. Otherwise their is really no point to a scope. Yes, I have one. No matter how hypocritical that may seem at first, I only use it for surverying the enemy and the terrain. I'm shooting a 2000 Autcocker with 12" All American Rifled Barrel (on Nitro) and Marbalizer or All Star paint. I do not use the scope for sniping, but I'm still hitting targets in excess of 75 feet with ease. Oh well, hope I didn't make any enemies. Just wanted to enlighten at least one person.

[Jamez Bond]

We know that- and I take it into consideration- BUT... a paintball CAN be put in the general area of target- how else would you pick these people off? I have a scope- and it is a great tool. I can spot targets, be a spotter, and I use it for longer ranges, but it is best for the first few shots- until I'm found. That's why I luv side- rails. I put the scope on top, and the glow sight on the side. Just move your head around a few inches- and you are on the other sight.

[paintballer56]

what the hell no flatline obviously u know nothig about sniping also talons they can't even shoot 20ft

[Skull]

Originally posted by EvilAngel2001
Hate to burst anyone's bubble or break anyone's heart but when you guys discuss and talk about your scopes and stuff, I find it kind of funny. You see, paintballs do not go straight. Do you hear me? paintballs do not go straight! Yes, they can be accurate but when you guys talk about scopes I can only hope you are mentioning and adding them to your gun so that you can collect intelligence on enemy movements and survey terrain. Otherwise their is really no point to a scope. Yes, I have one. No matter how hypocritical that may seem at first, I only use it for surverying the enemy and the terrain. I'm shooting a 2000 Autcocker with 12" All American Rifled Barrel (on Nitro) and Marbalizer or All Star paint. I do not use the scope for sniping, but I'm still hitting targets in excess of 75 feet with ease. Oh well, hope I didn't make any enemies. Just wanted to enlighten at least one person.

usually if u buy a scope the first thing u do is sight it in... u put up a target bout 50 feet away and shoot at, then u adjust the scope a lil and shoot again. After u can set the crosshairs on the bullseye and get and 8 in. grouping around it, u can pretty much hit ne paintballer out there

[shadow.338]

My opinion about a scope is somewhat similar with milks opinon. I'm a newbie and played paintball a couple of times to relize that the balls arc. And I've thought about what some of you said, and I'm planning on using a scope mostly as a spotter, but yet, my idea (IDEA! so I dont know if this would actually work). Just calibrate the scope so the windage to shoots up quite a bit about a good distance away from your target. So when you zero in on your target, you'll have a pretty good aspect of where your shooting on the scope.

[EvilAngel2001]

good idea, but then again... by the time you calibrate the sniper scope, the target will probably be out of range or line of sight/fire concidering that people tend to move about alot in paintball for the most part... but good luck to ya... get back to me if it works

[Jamez Bond]

I set the scope for long-range,(Paintball long-range, people!), and aim down the side at close range.

[shadow.338]

By calibrating a scope I didnt mean it on an actual target, sight it on an object before playing and crank the windige up so when you do play a game, you could estimate about 40 yards out that the scope would already aim for you. I dunno I'm kinda just making no sense. Pretty much to sum it up is what Jamez said.

[Sniper from he11]

Hey dont you guys dis on a flatline! MY 98 is complete with a flatline barrel, lapco dropfoward tee stock, 12, 14, and 20 oz CO2 tanks, rear cocking, 6 stage ACI exapasion chamber, RT (reactive trigger). I would love to play any of you hi priced guns in a one on one woods game but o yeah tippmanns are to loud well if your shot that is all that matters!

[Jamez Bond]

High end gun? I am using a Stingray 2!!! And I did'nt say anything about the flatline. Just that it is specialized in what it does- range. Some barrels are better for close range.

[Joltacks]

...when I bought my first paintball gun. It was a Stingray 2. Everyone laughed at me until I hit them with it (in game of course). Sniping is mostly your ability to aim, your ability to be stealthy and luck. Sometimes you get wild shots. You get a lot of wild shots with a Stingray 2, but every once in a while the balls actually go where you point the gun. I've gotten about 10 feet away from people without them knowing while they faced my team. I made two people surrender in one game with my old Stingray 2. A lot of times a good sniper won't have to shoot.

[EvilAngel2001]

Well... Umm... Ya see... The purpose and meaning of the sniper is to take meaningful shots and remove players from the game, not make them surrender all though that is not a bad alternative.

[Armadillo]

TSG-1 Terminator.
http://rustyspaintballgear.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/tsg1full2.jpg
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http://rustyspaintballgear.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/tsg1side.jpg

Caliber: .68
Barrel: 23" ATS Ported
Scope: Tasco 4* PSG-1 Scope
Bipod: Folding (Swivel and cant)
Power source: CO2 or N2


this thing looks great, shoots great and its even full auto.



[Edited by Armadillo on 05-15-2001 at 11:32 AM]

[Jamez Bond]

The pics did'nt download, man. Snipers use any means neccessary- surrender or otherwise. Snipers are good at stealth- so crawling up behing them is an important skill.

[KoRnMaN]

hahahaha lol you guys are all not funny (in paintball there is no such thing as a sniper) Reason being fps there is no difference unless the snipers have it cranked. Flatline is bad if you want to be a so called sniper because you can catch the ballz from far away and put them back in your hopper:) If I would be a sniper cocker all the way.

[Joltacks]

It's an imagination thing. It's fun to pretend you're a sniper. You were obviously never a kid.

[KoRnMaN]

Ok I see what you meen about the imagination part.

[MateoTheConquerer]

You cant beat a
Smart Parts All American Teardrop on a Mag.........

1.Accuracy
2.Quite
3.Rapid Fire

[Jamez Bond]

The noble Squeege- paintbl sniper of 5 years. You should find him and say that to him- see his pics. Tell me there is no sniper- have you played one? you spray 99 shots- he takes one, and the game is over. Bam. Flatlines ARE good- the range on those mothers is incredible- and snipers don't take a shot head-on unless ABSOLUTLY neccesary- so what are the chances they'll see the ball coming?

[CDietz]

I agree... there is no such thing as a sniper in paintball!!! "Snipers" are newbies that hide in the woods away from everyone, and don't move. Don't get me wrong, I play woods AND tournaments and i can hit people from across the field. I dont shoot a lot at all and have a lot of eliminations. Skill in paintball has to do with stealth, speed and brains. I can get behind a whole team (obviously not in speedball) and take everyone out. Well you got my 2cents hope someone agrees with me. O yea sights dont work!!!

[Jamez Bond]

Sights don't work?!?!?! That is insane! A sight is designed to do what the name suggests- and they are more precise than down the barrel.

[EvilAngel2001]

Well Mr. Bond, you obviously don't play paintball too often. Otherwise you'd notice that for the most part, paintballs shoot where they want! When they want!

[KoRnMaN]

Sights work ok for close up and from left to right but not far away.

[Jamez Bond]

Obviouly I do play lot of paintball- because the right barrel can put a paintball to a target- with deadly precision. I only like sights for long and medium ranges- I fing I don't have time to try to get a perfect shot in at close range with a sight- better to go instinctive.

[CDietz]

With the right barrel? How would you even know? Didn't you say you played with tigersharks, stingrays and talons? I dont think those 2 inch stingray barrels have "deadly precision".

[Jamez Bond]

I don't use Tigersharks-( Though it would be fun), and I use A talon for the hell of it sometimes when we have a- "Low class game". And I DID use a Stingray 2. But the guns I have shot can hit a person at their max range- and tha is pretty good.

[Paint Bulley]

Armadillo..

Nice gun, where does the CO2 go? Is that your gun? Where do you get the shroud to go over the barrel?
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THanks

[Killers Are Quiet]

Very nice gun armadillo, is that the grenade launcher for the tippman?
Trying to talk at least one of the two guys I know who own tippman m98's into getting one.

[C4pyro]

Again man...phantoms are the best...or a sniper one or two...they are just more consistent...for performance...the rest ..if you got skills... will be all good...it really dosn't matter too much...but phantoms and snipers are a little quieter and are both a lot flater shooting...both are relatively inexpensive...

[Jamez Bond]

I don't like pumps for low-end sniping.I mean- they are usually more accurate and quieter, but if you miss- you have to move to reload, and if discovered- what are your chances of winning a fire-fight against, like, and Angel LCD with some triger-happy hoser behind it? Once you get good- I like pumps, and they are more fun in pump-games.

[EvilAngel2001]

I really like the Phantoms. In fact I can honestly say that I love them. They look ****** and they can back up the looks with great performance. But for me, I think my Tippmann Custom 98 is holding up pretty well considering it's not even ment for "sniping". Now don't everyone bomb me a once for saying that my Tippy is a good sniping gun, cuz I know about all the preconceived notions concerning any Tippmann and the newbie rumor. But still, as I've said before and I'll probably say again, "the player is the key piece, the gun adds to him slightly"

[Jamez Bond]

Ya- like I have been saying- it is the PERSON- not the gear. And I don't believe there are any guns MADE for sniping- they all have uses and can be adapted. This is war- if it works- go with it.

[KoRnMaN]

Is that your finally anwser?

[terpsare1]

i was thinking of getting a SL-68II, 1x-4x compact scope, 45 round hopper, polishing the barrel, making a suppressor1, a 12 oz. tank with butt plate. Then getting the whole thing in camo (real tree if possible) dont know how im gonna camo yet, ill figuare something out. if you have any suggestions feel free to help.

[KoRnMaN]

Do you have another gun?

[terpsare1]

kornman, you talkin to me? i got a semiauto too. this was just my idea for a sniper.

[KoRnMaN]

o good idea then. :)

[unreal7]

Try a shutter with 14 inch bigdaddy!

[Jamez Bond]

try the TigerShark Owners group- they have a gun with a ghille camo wrap. And you can buy that ghille camo screen stuff- then zip-tie it down. I think SL-68's are plastic, so you could use model paint and camo it- like I did to my Ray, and most at the Stingray toters internet group have done too. And ya- it's my final answer.

[Jamez Bond]

And why not a 4-ounce tank? Smaller, lighter, and With 45 rounds, you aint gonna NEED the, what, 600 shots on a pump. 3.5 ounce would work too.

[KoRnMaN]

That is incorrect you walk away with $1.

[KoRnMaN]

How much are sp's?

[terpsare1]

i dont think the SL-68s are plastic. im not sure. does anyone know? by the way, thanks for your help.

[Jamez Bond]

I held one for a second once, I think they are plastic- but does Tippmann get crap for using plastic? No. Does Worrgames? No. Does Brass Eagle? Yes. And what do you mean, that is not correct, Korn?

[KoRnMaN]

im just giving ya sh1t silly.

[I win]

The Sting Ray II is a Great gun for a sniper. Not only can you sniper with the custom barrel you can do other things also, very versitile gun.

[Joltacks]

the only thing good about a stingray 2 is its price

[fear my impulse]

mad ogre, do you happen to play rogue spear? j/w cuz that's prob the only way i know that gun. one of the best sniper rifles out there, runs close to the barrett .50. sorry to get off topic, but o well.

[KoRnMaN]

a yea................

[Jamez Bond]

The most powerfull is the beretta .50 "Lighty". The most accurate is the Walther PSG-1. Stingrays are good sniper guns. They are extremly durable, and not very flashy. They can be modified to be almost as accurate as any other gun, sometimes more accurate. Thing is, instead of using a 7.62 by 31 mm NATO round, like the PSG-1, it uses a .68 cal paintball.

[CDietz]

i have never saw any of those guns

[CDietz]

but i did shoot the nelsplat on wednesday after noon. it was sweet

[terpsare1]

who ever said the PSG-1 was made by Walther is wrong. Its made by Heckler-Koch. http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com

[Joltacks]

Paintball guns just make you turn funny colors.

[EvilAngel2001]

I have read alot of things concerning snipers and their tools. And I have to say that the best compensation between accuracy and range would have to be the M40A1 Sniper Rifle. It is somewhat light, and if used with new ballistic munitions, can be effective against an actual tank. That's my view anyway. And if you are looking for a good sniper book, "SNIPER" by Adrian Gilbert is a great one.

[KoRnMaN]

stingray really?

[Jamez Bond]

Sorry- I thought it was made by Walther. They are sold to the public- but they cost a pretty penny.(About $2000)Stingrays, with a new barrel, maybe a Venturi bolt and some mods, can be exellent sniper guns. They are rugged, reliable, light, simple, they are'nt flashy, and are a helluva lot of fun.

[KoRnMaN]

umm.. that dont kill people.

[Armadillo]

The T-SG1 takes the c02 canister by a remote through stock i think... i dunno for sure.

There is no beretta .50, you mean a Barett .50
Yes P-SG1 is made by HK, and it retails for considerably more than $2000. Also i am not sure if you can get them anymore unless you are with a government organisation... would have to check that out.

[Joltacks]

Yeah, the government always has to have the best everything, like if you work for "them" you're suddenly better than everyone else for some reason.

[Jebus]

I believe any gun within the price range of $200-$400(because of what guns in that price range come with) with a Dye or Smart Parts Barrel will preform great as a sniper rifle.