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hexer29
02-28-2001, 10:13 AM
Has anyone seen this yet? What are the specs on it. Also does anyone have a pic?

hexer29
02-28-2001, 10:36 AM
http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/hexer29022801143523xtra.jpg

I just found a pic of the new spyder, i hope the pic worked

A damn fool
02-28-2001, 10:47 AM
it jsut loks liek s shutter with out a reg, how much is it?

A damn fool
02-28-2001, 10:48 AM
and vertical feed

TLplus84
02-28-2001, 11:42 AM
kinda looks like the EM1 and Shutter mooshed into one gun...without the Electropneumatics..

elTwitcho
02-28-2001, 11:43 AM
Looks better than the shutter IMO. Vertical feed (try it once and you'll never go back) no regulator that you'll end up replacing anyhow, no zebra bolt (which from friends I've heard is a dirt magnet) and looks kinda sleeker without the sight rail (which can be taken off a shutter though). To me it looks like a gun that will perform as well or better than a shutter, at less cost. Looks great to me

blinkpk11
02-28-2001, 04:09 PM
man i wish i would of waited and got an extra, i really love to have vert feed, and the reg on the shutter is a POS

MuckRaker
02-28-2001, 04:31 PM
That's just it though ... as soon as you buy a widget, the company comes out with a better widget. It's Murphy's Law.

blinkpk11
02-28-2001, 04:42 PM
damn marketing techniques. Wish they would combine all the comapainies into one you know. We could all have the Kingman Pirranah STS+, the shutter pro of somethin like that

chevy123
02-28-2001, 05:05 PM
where can i get more info on this marker? :D

MuckRaker
02-28-2001, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by blinkpk11
damn marketing techniques. Wish they would combine all the comapainies into one you know. We could all have the Kingman Pirranah STS+, the shutter pro of somethin like that

How about the AutoCocking Impulsive Spyder Clone XTS 2001 ... patent pending!! :eek:
:P

blinkpk11
02-28-2001, 05:30 PM
or how bout the super electro

New from WDP, the makers of the angel, is the (drum roll please):

WDP/Cobra E-BushAngelMatrix 4x4 ELCD all in one electro


MSRP: the US national dept

TLplus84
02-28-2001, 05:33 PM
you spelled debt wrong.....unless you were saying department..but taht wouldn't make any sense..anywayz..yeah that sux..as soon as i bought my Tl, they came out with the shutter..as soon as the shutter comes out, the Xtra...:P

chevy123
02-28-2001, 05:33 PM
lol, im already trying to sell my TL plus.... ( Been giving me problems, seller used it a bit ( A LOT ) longer then mentioned.

hexer29
02-28-2001, 05:36 PM
-Semi-auto action

-Straight feed load system

-Rear cocking 2nd generation Venturi bolt

-Quick disconnect, field strippable pin

-Dual sight rail with beaver tail

-Bottom-line set up with micro-line hose

-Two finger trigger with regulation trigger guard

-Anti-double feed

-12" micro-polished muzzle brake barrel

-Aluminum trigger frame

-45 grip frame with rubber grip cover

-Low pressure chamber

-Tournamnet level velocity adjuster

-Removable gas-through fore grip

-Mini expansion chamber

-Newly designed cocking grip

-Special anodizing

-Deluxe drop foward

chevy123
02-28-2001, 06:08 PM
and the release date and price is? :confused:

MuckRaker
02-28-2001, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by TLplus84
you spelled debt wrong.....unless you were saying department..but TAHT wouldn't make any sense..ANYWAYZ..yeah that sux..as soon as i bought my Tl, they came out with the shutter..as soon as the shutter comes out, the Xtra...:P

And you're gonna say something about other people's bad speeling??? :P

blinkpk11
02-28-2001, 06:21 PM
i have trouble spelling when my 2 year old brother yelling at me at the top of his loungs (i spelled that wrong intentionally) "i want food NOW!" Just because he is 2 doesnt mean he is not loud either.

davidb
02-28-2001, 07:17 PM
Is it just me or does the dropforward go DOWN instead of forward? I mean, the Shutter's dropforward is nothing to write home about, but it looks like the one on the xtra doesn't go forward any farther, just down. Another move by Kingman that's great for marketing, not so great for performance. TL, don't feel bad about getting the TL before the Shutter came out. Seems it would have all been replaced anyway, by reading your signature. Does kingmanusa.com have this up yet? Oh heck, I'll just go look myself.

blinkpk11
02-28-2001, 07:34 PM
nope. i allready looked at kingman, nothing i could find. Maybe youll dig something up

[Edited by blinkpk11 on 02-28-2001 at 11:49 PM]

NickR
02-28-2001, 07:58 PM
My instincts are yelling at me saying that this will be over priced like the shutter.

Ez8
02-28-2001, 08:53 PM
I think they called the spyder xtra because it is the orignal spyder with a exp and rear cocking!

felixthecat
02-28-2001, 08:59 PM
that looks like a sweet gun.....but if I just knew the release date?.......

Ez8
02-28-2001, 09:00 PM
is it going to be java ed?

spacer709
02-28-2001, 09:22 PM
hey hexter, whered you find that pic??

elTwitcho
03-01-2001, 03:31 AM
In APG

hexer29
03-01-2001, 11:40 AM
i got the pic from someone at pbcity.

antiramie
03-01-2001, 12:01 PM
OH MY GOD!!!.... A NEW GUN!!!!.....HOLD ME BACK!!! Wow, lets all gawk over the vertical feed, thats new. Ooooo, the anodizing, how new. Looks like Kingman just crammed a bunch of their old guns into one and gave it a new name. And whoever said the price will be low....I doubt that. :eek: :eek:

elTwitcho
03-01-2001, 12:03 PM
bet it will, no reg, no sight rail, and no zebra bolt. Plus, vertical feed does make a big big difference, so I wouldnt go so far as to say this gun isnt an improvement, I think it's very smart for them to ahve gone vertical

antiramie
03-01-2001, 01:12 PM
Yeah, but ElTwitcho, what does that tell you when one of the largest manufacturers of guns (probably THE largest) is the last to put vertical feed on a gun? Id say Kingman has some catching up to do. Im proud to say that my gun was the first to have vertical feed! :D

elTwitcho
03-01-2001, 01:43 PM
I think the millenium has you beat :) Though the GT is a nice gun (sturdy as a mofo) as well. And you do indeed have a good point about Kingman catching up, but at least they're trying :) You dont usually see alot of ground breaking innovations in blowbacks anyway, most of the real neat stuff came out first on high end guns, but it would be nice to see Kingman produce a truly revolutionary gun, rather than just sorta slightly modifying guns and puttin em out. Oh well, I just think it looks pretty good, and I'm hopin will be cheaper than the shutter

spacer709
03-01-2001, 02:30 PM
yeah

Mr. Kitty
03-01-2001, 06:08 PM
It looks kinda like the millenium..........

Oreo
03-02-2001, 12:29 AM
as of this writing you can find that pic in the new edition of APG as well as a pic of the new JT proteus mask wich is hella cool

Jake
04-09-2001, 02:15 PM
This gun has all the options i was gonna get with the TL Plus and has vertical feed. This gun is awesome and its only 169.

Skelo
04-09-2001, 02:30 PM
http://www.xpaintball.com sells it. There out of Ohio.

Jake
04-09-2001, 03:20 PM
yeah but they want more for it. They have it at paintballondemand.com for 169. If you go there check out the Spyder Shutter Superman Edition. It is really sweet

TheMuRph1018
04-09-2001, 03:31 PM
They have a pic at shop4paintball.com I think

jdw_56
04-28-2001, 03:22 PM
i was thinking about getting a this sweet TL+ pkg. but after seeing the XTRA im reconsidering. does anyone have first-hand experience wiht the TL+ or this gun, and by the way, the XTRA is out already(but you all probably knew that) see a pic at http://www.paintballgear.com

simon woodstock
04-28-2001, 05:33 PM
i think it's out already for sale, it's $140 (if my memory serves me correctly) and i saw it in like apple green, it looks like a java green, i thought it was cool, i told my brother to check it out if he gets rid of his m98. i think he'll take the piranha vtl(g2 or g3) instead 'cuz he wants to do all his own upgrades. but i think it looks like a cool gun, however it has lots of basic upgrades that'll be upgraded anyways. like the drop forward and barrel. as for always being behind in guns i'd say buy a basic gun or classic gun and upgrade it. it's like buying an old classic car instead of waiting for the newest model to come out and paying much more. well thats what i did.

DIRTY HARRY
04-30-2001, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by jdw_56
i was thinking about getting a this sweet TL+ pkg. but after seeing the XTRA im reconsidering. does anyone have first-hand experience wiht the TL+ or this gun, and by the way, the XTRA is out already(but you all probably knew that) see a pic at http://www.paintballgear.com I own both of these guns and I have to say the Extra has impressed me most of the two. They're similar in price(although with the extra out now the tl+ will most likely go down in price) and have mostly the same features except the vert feed, new rear cocking L shaped knob, rubber grips, and the "drop forward". Don't be fooled by Kingman's ad, this gun is green and chrome colored not silver and grey.