a-5

[tomastos]

is the a-5 a good gun or not? i am considering getting one as my first gun and have gotten different responses from people.

[willpill]

i think the mag is the best starting gun for smart people.

but a a5 is little too high priced for a starting gun.

did you try the reviews?

[Zesty]

For $230, I think t's well worth it for a totally stock A5. You'll never have to worry about buying a new loader if you get a firepower upgrade, and even if you play stock you won't have to worry about balls jamming.

The A5 costs $100 more than a M98C, and you get a Cyclone, plus this:

-Enclosed cocking
-Quick-strip field pins
-Built-in vertical adapter
-Interchangable barrel threads

I have both a M98C and A5, and I prefer the A5....especially for the price. It costs $100 more and has easily $100 value over a M98C.

But some people will still prefer the feel of the M98C, so it's best to get your hands on one before yo buy.



Zesty

[AgentOrange]

Originally posted by Zesty
so it's best to get your hands on one before yo buy.


Best piece of advice right there.

[Helmut]

NO!! It is a 98c with a cyclone feed on it for one hundred $ more. Anyways why would you want a Tippmann?:confused:

[Coenen]

Sensible members of the Tippmann forum don't go into Kingman and start bashing, don't do it here.

The A-5 is more than a Beefed up M98, there was a thread about it many-moons ago, it may be stickied, it described many differences between the two.

Definitely try to get your hands on what you're buying before you buy it though, that is quite possibly the most important rule of buying a marker.

Will, you mean an Automag right? They are a little pricey for new guys unless you get them used, in which case, they are also a wonderful choice.

[Goober_AK]

Originally posted by Helmut
NO!! It is a 98c with a cyclone feed on it for one hundred $ more. Anyways why would you want a Tippmann?:confused:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Yes, try before you buy.
I own an A5 and it's stock. IMO, I like it stock.

Maybe getting a drop and Egrip in the future.

[wheezy123456]

Yo goober definatly get the e-grip i just recieved one and installed it this week and it kicks some mojor apples man. I was curious at first thinking if it was worth it? but now i know I got my money's worth.

[Helmut]

Sensible members of the Tippmann forum don't go into Kingman and start bashing, don't do it here.

I'm not I'm telling the truth-but seriously don't get a a-5 if you get any Tippmann get a 98c and supe it up. (it will cost a lot b/c it doesn't come w/anything hardly)

[Goober_AK]

I've tried one. One of my friends has got one, it rips.

[E r y k]

lets not turn this into a which gun is better thread... those end up nowhere

everybody has preferences.. if you like the 98, good, if you like the a-5 good. if you hate tippmanns in general... good for you.

[bulletbill]

yes it is a good gun. it would be a good starter gun too. its even better if your rich. Go buy ten of them, i dont care!!!(i'm not really mad, i'm just saying who cares, of coarse its a freaking good gun)

[Weaksauce]

Its a decent gun, its my first gun I've owned, I've shot angels and Autocockers and Automags but I like the feel of the A-5, its all preference.

It also depends on what you'll be playing, if you're playing Rec/Bush/woods ball alot then get an A-5, maybe a flatline, if you are going to be playing speedball than get a Mag or a cocker.

I don't think an E-Grip is really needed, considering you can only use it on semi on most if not all fields for rec ball and at all tournaments.

If you're worried about the speed of it I have a video of the A-5 ripping around 14 BPS with an E-Grip and a R/T. If you wanna or anyone else wants to see it PM me and I'll send you a link.

Good luck and enjoy what is most important, the art of paintball.

[Coenen]

Originally posted by Weaksauce
If you're worried about the speed of it I have a video of the A-5 ripping around 14 BPS with an E-Grip and a R/T.

Weak, you know better than that, it has to be one or the other, not both. Unless they are separate guns.

Really if you are comfortable with a gun you will be able to use it in any situation.
Whatever gun you get, here's a suggestion, if you can, carry it with you around the house, hold it while your watching TV, that way you will begin to think of it more as an extension of your self than anything else. To be as effective as possible that is how you have to consider it, not as you and the marker being to separate entities but as one seamless device.

[Weaksauce]

Sorry when I said:
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Originally posted by Weaksauce
If you're worried about the speed of it I have a video of the A-5 ripping around 14 BPS with an E-Grip and a R/T.
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I meant with an E-Grip then with a R/T. The guy had the E-Grip on first then he changed it out to the R/T or vice versa, I don't remember.

I can still get it to whoever wants to see it though. Good idea Coenen but that's alot of effort.

Best of Luck Tomastos!!

[Lokichi]

Originally posted by tomastos
is the a-5 a good gun or not? i am considering getting one as my first gun and have gotten different responses from people.

Yes it is a good gun. :cool:

[Helmut]

Originally posted by tomastos
is the a-5 a good gun or not? i am considering getting one as my first gun and have gotten different responses from people.

No it is not:cool:

[Goober_AK]

Have you ever tried one? Are did you just jump on the "Hate Tippmann band wagon"?

[WildEric110]

Helmut just got a crappy Spyder and is jealous because he didn't get a Tippmann. I've seen more noobs with Spyders than with TIppmanns too.

[bildo]

Originally posted by Zesty
For $230, I think t's well worth it for a totally stock A5. You'll never have to worry about buying a new loader if you get a firepower upgrade, and even if you play stock you won't have to worry about balls jamming.

The A5 costs $100 more than a M98C, and you get a Cyclone, plus this:

-Enclosed cocking
-Quick-strip field pins
-Built-in vertical adapter
-Interchangable barrel threads

I have both a M98C and A5, and I prefer the A5....especially for the price. It costs $100 more and has easily $100 value over a M98C.

But some people will still prefer the feel of the M98C, so it's best to get your hands on one before yo buy.



Zesty

for 100$ more all u get is a cyclone feed? omg.. have u ever heard of a halo? and how much are they again? the best loader out there..

and also the other things u listed.. for example "Interchangable barrel threads" ... do u think everyone here is that dumb? uh, i think the M98 has that bud.. along with just about every other gun out there.. one word.. u can get somethin alot better for the money.. i would like to introduce to u the T.E.S.... made by M3, it has a friggin antichop eye! no more chopping that means.. its well worth the 255$ it costs... u can even buy a new one cheap off of ebay (wholesale stores on there) i would rather take a gun that has a electronic trigger... can fire 20bps.. and has a electronic antichop eye system built into the bolt.. over that

im just sayin there is alot better out there.. u dont have to suclude yourself to tippmann, look around.. theres some good guns out there for the money.. just gotta get up and find some..

[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

Originally posted by Helmut


No it is not:cool:
NEWSFLASH JUNIOR
You don't know jack! Both Tippmann's and Spyder's are nice beginner guns. But if one had to suck more than the other, the Spyder would be the looser. Kingman gets about a 2 or 3 on the customer service scale of 1-10, whereas Tippmann gets 7-8.
You either put up a valid arguement, or just shut your mouth.
You obviously don't know what your talking about. You've made that pretty clear to all of us with your anti-tippmann comments.

[scvillagesucks]

owned

[E r y k]

OT.

hey haze, hows everything going for you?

[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

Originally posted by scvillagesucks
owned That's my job, and I do it well. :badboy:
Originally posted by E r y k
OT.

hey haze, hows everything going for you? It's going. Not that great, but not too bad either.

[scvillagesucks]

Yeah man, what happened with your parents?

[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

Eh, I'm home again for a bit. Soon as I get a job I'm out again, only it's a mutual thing this time. I'm done with school for now.

[Goober_AK]

Well, glad things are doing better bro!
Prayin! :D

[scvillagesucks]

Originally posted by bildo


for 100$ more all u get is a cyclone feed? omg.. have u ever heard of a halo? and how much are they again? the best loader out there..

and also the other things u listed.. for example "Interchangable barrel threads" ... do u think everyone here is that dumb? uh, i think the M98 has that bud.. along with just about every other gun out there.. one word.. u can get somethin alot better for the money.. i would like to introduce to u the T.E.S.... made by M3, it has a friggin antichop eye! no more chopping that means.. its well worth the 255$ it costs... u can even buy a new one cheap off of ebay (wholesale stores on there) i would rather take a gun that has a electronic trigger... can fire 20bps.. and has a electronic antichop eye system built into the bolt.. over that

im just sayin there is alot better out there.. u dont have to suclude yourself to tippmann, look around.. theres some good guns out there for the money.. just gotta get up and find some..

Well , the A-5 isn't just a 98 with cyclone. As Zesty has previously mentioned, the A-5 has many worthy upgrades over the 98c. The cyclone feed being the biggest one. Now before you go squaking about the size or reliability problems with the cyclone consider this. It comes with the gun. It has a smaller profile than all hoppers out there, only disadvantage is it gives your opponent more surface area to hit on the right side. There were problems with a few cyclones, but a simple (free) update from Tippmann will fix any potential problems. You say the dragun, obviously it is low end low quality gun. You are like many others, some people don't want a flashy gun for speedball. Some people want a simple reliable high performance woods/occasional speedball gun. The A-5 with a few modest upgrades fits this bill perfectly. Back to the cyclone, you need no friggin' anti chop eye with the cyclone. I mean, the gun/losder combo can reliably shoot 20bps with an R/t, that is an all mechanical gun! I know the A-5 isn't for everyone, but please keep your pathetic arguments and A-5 bashing out of the Tippmann forum.

[E r y k]

if you think the a-5 is better than the TES your wrong.

TES > a -5

it might still be a blow back/seartripper... but what electro sear tripper comes with an eye.

the TES does.

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a-5

field stripping - so what? who needs to field strip a tippmann.

removable barrel threads - whoop dee doo... isnt that what a barrel adapter is supposed to do?

thats all i can think of... but everybody has their own opinons, thats mine.

[scvillagesucks]

Who needs your frickin fancy pants eye when you have a force fed loader? The cyclone solves those issues. Like you said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion so let's not start a flaming war.

[E r y k]

Originally posted by scvillagesucks
Who needs your frickin fancy pants eye when you have a force fed loader? The cyclone solves those issues. Like you said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion so let's not start a flaming war.

an eye stops chops, a cyclone doesnt.

[scvillagesucks]

And how does the cyclone not stop chops? It force feeds the paintballs, very fast I may add. With your little eye you still need a agitated hopper or else you won't be able to shoot fast because that eye of yours will sense no paintball in the breech. A-5 = problem solved. No point in needless stuff.

[bildo]

haha your sayin that the A5 has a small profile!? omg, the foregrip is like a foot away from te grip compared to the TES, and yes, do u know why A5 is the ONLY marker iwth the cyclone feed? its because they needed some new quick to kick onto the market, i mean, since the 98C, the A5 has been the only new marker they've ever made.. and please.. the cyclone feed can ONLY feed up to 800 rounds a minute.. hmm, devide that by 60, (if u were wonder, theres 60 seconds in a minute) thats only 13.3... only 13.3bps man! a regular gravity fed VL200 can feed 8-9.. and your spending 100$ for that, and dont say theres other upgrades.. cuz their really isnt... if u want R/T then thatll just add more to the gun, makin it cost way over the cost of a TES. so really, think about this.. when your buyin a A5, all your gettin is the Flashy* Cyclone feed, thats all.. u just want somethin original.. not somethin to actually perform.. it in no way compares to a TES, im talkin about a blow back.. a low pressure blow back at that, One of the highest class blow backs there is on the market. and u would trade it for a gun that has a loader (that doesnt look like it can be interchangeable) that Only feeds 13 bps over that, im pretty sure runnin it at 20bps is goin to chop like mad. if u can even run it up past the 13 that it can only handle of course.

so please... i have nothing against the 98C, i think thats a great gun.. but come on, the A5 is only out there to be original.. and thats how it sells.. it makes kids like u think its the "fastest shootin gun" and no, u cant argue about the 800 per minute thing... says it right here, and u havent tested it to prove it wrong.. all u can say is that u might have saw i feed faster :rolleyes: plain and simple... theres better bang for your buck.. thats all

[scvillagesucks]

Actually the cyclone was factory tested to 15bps. . Many people with R/T's and polished internals can get 17-20bps so I don't know what you're talking about.

[bildo]

u see, the feeder is only capable of firing 800 balls per minute. im not goin to take your 15bps into account until u show me where u found that information. i mean, when i flip through the APG to the A5 part, says in big letters "capable of shooting 800 rds. per minute"....along with the statement "Fastest Marker/feed system in the world"

:rolleyes:

ya, since their the Only marker/feed system in the world..

no other marker has a built in hopper.. probably for a reason... o well, its an eye catcher

A5= not a shabby gun.. but u can get better for the buck

[scvillagesucks]

You tell me
That doesn't look like 13bps to me. Since you finally admit it is a decent gun, what gun and loader would you reccomend over the A-5?

Well that stupid censoring cut out half the URL so here is the link to the forum. http://www.a5ownersgroup.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4550&SearchTerms=r/t,

[bildo]

do u not understand what ive been doin? all of my posts end with "theres better bang for the buck thats all" or somethin along those lines.. which there is, i havent been sayin its a worthless gun, i just know theres better out there in its price range.. and u freak... :eyes:

the TES would still b a huge jump from the A5.

the TES is at least tourney legal (that is if u have the R/T installed.. which u always talk about) which includes a electronic eye... i know, u might be scared of such high technology.. but just give it a chance... it doesnt bite :)

and trigger bounce is cheatin in my book (which is all the RT seems like its doing).. and last i looked.. its cheating in most tourney's books too.. its no real prob.. i play with kids who have RT's all the time.. but when it comes down to playin for money... RT shouldnt b there, unless all the kids with electros can turn on full auto.. which will never happen..

and that movie... doesnt sound like its goin faster then 13bps.. i just hooked up my old e-99, set it to fully auto (13bps) and shot... seems the same...

and i know theres millions of people who love thier A5's.. i wouldnt mind owning one either... if they were about 50$ cheaper.. then they would cost just about the same as some1 buyin 98C and a 12V revy, or reloader (which is all it is.. execpt u cant upgrade the feed system to something better.. and trust me.. theres always better:) ) o well i really dont see u have to keep dragin this on...

o and by the way... theres better bang for the buck... period.

[chinesebugrepel]

Stop telling people theres a better bang for your buck. Personally I think both are a ripoff and I'd get either a bko or TKO Mag, but what does it matter. Preference is all that matters when talking about value, and you CANNOT dictate value or preference to someone, so stop trying.

[bulletbill]

i think the a5 is a great gun, but in my books it is a little too much money for me, but i'm sure lots of people dont have money as an issue. (i could buy 15 of them, but i dont like spending all my money on paintball.

[AgentOrange]

I also have to agree the A5 isnt worth the cost. But to each his own.

[chinesebugrepel]

Congradulations Orange, youve said "to each his own" 1000 times.

[Turambar]

Sigh. Why do we always turn these threads into versus threads?

Closed.

To the maker of this thread: Yes, the A-5 is a good gun, despite what some people will say. If you've tested one out and like it, go ahead and buy one.