My cocker is making some funny sounds...help..

[fleaf]

This is kind of long but bear with me..

well, I think it was probably because I didn't ahve a lot of CO2 left in my tank but...I aired up my cocker ( 2k1 stock cocker, I cocked it before I gassed it up of course ) And when I was shooting it it was making some funky *** noises. Each shot was a different noise, and since this is my first cocker, I'm not really sure whether or not it's supposed to make these noises. Some shots sounded like there was no air in it and I could kinda hear the main spring make that springy noise (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about). But anyways, also, my 3-way was leaking a little too (the tiniest hiss). It also was leaking out of the hole in the back after every time I pulled the triger. Sometimes there would be some ait that would puff out of it and sometimes there would not be any air. And one last thing, when I took of my CO2 tank with the knob turned "off" (it has an on/off valve), the remaining air (not that much) just rushed out even though the valve was off, is my valve broken? hehe..anyways, i will list my problems below so it will be easier to see...BTW, I was low on CO2, so that might be a factor, but does it actually create this many problems?

1.My cocker was making funny sounds, every shot seemed to make a different sound. I don't know how to describe it..

2. The three way had a constant hissing sound (VERY minimal)

3.Each time I pulled my trigger, sometimes (not all the times I pulled the trigger), a slight little puff of air would come out of the hole at the end of my 3-way

4.After unscrewing my CO2 tank when knob when twisted on "off" (has on/off), all the remaining CO2 (not that much) just rushed out, is my on/off valve broken?

If you could answer these questions, I would be very grateful. =) Thanks for reading.heheh...

[stobooy01]

2. The three way had a constant hissing sound (VERY minimal)
This could be a number if things but is usually,
1: Your timing is off by a little & the piston for the 3-way isn't moved far up enough.
2: One of the o-rings on the 3-way has ruptured. (This is a pain to replace).
3: You need to oil you 3-way. This will help to smooth out the trigger pull & helps the o-rings seal a little better.

[fleaf]

how do I oil the three way?

[pbgod68cal]

i oil mine by puting a few drops in the asa and in the back of the 3 way and it keeps mine working great and the sounds thing it think it was the low co2 cuz mine does to some times but only when i chope and mi stupid bolt jams thats the only other thing i can think of that would cause it

[fleaf]

do you mean the little "hole" in the back of the three way?

[pbgod68cal]

yea towrds the back of the gun where the rod and coupler is atatched

[fleaf]

ahhh, your words aren't in my vocabulary hehe...do you mean like the place behind the from the back of the front black near the vertical adapter. I see the timing rod, and a piston ( I think that's what their called, the thing that actuates in and out of the 3 way. so do I hold down the trigger then 3-way is "open" and then drop the oil in there?

[pbgod68cal]

lol u should know what the parts of your gun are called
but yes thats where

[jett]

pbgod68cal is right. i agree 100%. I just have a reminder. you dont need to cock your autococker. Its an autococker. attack the air source and the first time u pull the trigger will automatically cock your gun.

[fleaf]

no, I even got a little tutorial from my locacl pro shop.:crazy: you have to cock the gun before attaching an air source. The term "autocoker" was used because it was originally a pump gun (sniper) and now the pneumatics is what actually cocks the gun instead of a pump handle.

[pbgod68cal]

thank u jett and i agree w/ u that you dont need to cock your gun befor u gas it up its not necasary some ppl do some dont its not gonna do any thing diffrent if u do exept shoot a ball the first shot unless u just pulled the cocking rod then the first shot will be air but nothings gonna happen if u dont cock it befor u gas up well nothings happend to me yet and ive been shooting a cocker sence i started playing 3 years ago

[fleaf]

I heard there would be some leakage if you didn't cock the gun before gass it up...but oh well, maybe I will try it sometime.

btw, I think one of my problems was that my bolt hole was facing upwards instead of downwards...

[ShadowKi][er]

I think that's the main problem. IF the X-way (3 way) still leaks , oil it and check for ****e o-rings. I've heard something about the Valve not liking it if you don't cock your marker before turning on your air source.

[pbgod68cal]

yea that could be the problem make sure u put the bolt in right or get a ans 16 hole ventury like the one i got for sale and get ride of the worries of puting it in upside down when in a hurry or because of careless ness

[ptflyer]

well.....about cocking your gun before gassing it up

If you are running your marker LP and have a good stiff main spring....and a soft valve spring...the pressure the hammer puts on the valve pin could be enough to cause you to hear air down your barrel..that is why they say you should cock it first......

but nothing drastic will happen if you don't....except you loose alittle air.....or if you run co2 maybe freeze your marker up..*L

[ry_goody]

I am guessing those funny sounds are because your gun is not recocking when you pull the trigger. To see if it is doing this, pull the trigger and if it makes that funny sound then try and cock the gun by pulling on the cocking rod. If it "clicks" into place then that means that it is not being recocked when you fire. Which is due to the lack of pressure in the ram.

So the first possible problem is that you don't have enough psi running through your pnuematics, which would also explain the slight 3way leak because sometimes 3ways leak when there is not enough psi going through them. To fix this problem you need to turn up your pnuematic regulator (the big fat tube on the front). So degass your gun, take some needle nose pliars and pull the hose clamp off the hose that goes on the pnuematic regulator (only 1 hose is on the pnuematic regulator). Then unscrew it, you do not need a wrench because the part you are unscrewing is just the black part of the reg, you are unscrewing the black part off of the brass part that goes into the front block. The brass part should still be screwed into the gun with you get off the black part of the reg. Now, take a flathead screwdriver and stick it into the newly uncovered flathead screw inside the reg. Turn it about a half turn counter-clockwise and then screw the reg back on the gun, put the hose back on it. Gas up the gun and see if it works. If its better, then ungas the gun, unscrew the reg again and turn the flathead screw another half turn counter-clockwise until the problem isn't there anymore. However if its worse, then do the opposite and turn it clockwise.

Tell me if that does it... I still have another idea of whats wrong.

[fleaf]

hehe, thanks for the reply, but I gassed up my gun with the bolt facing the RIGHT way, and everything is working fine with the exception of me short stroking a couple times. But thanks for telling me on how to adjust my reg. it will come in handy one day. =)