Freak Barrel vs. Tippmann Flatline

[Ronkend]

Ok, This is simple enough I would like to know what people who have used these think- which is better the flatline or the freak barrel.

[p8ntba11dude89]

preference, preference, preference (think i spelled them right). i would take the freak, then get more inserts. you would probably not need the flatlline becasue you will probably not NEED to shoot that far. but it depends on your feild.

hope that helped

[Weaksauce]

Play speedball=Freak Kit
Play Recball=Flatline

'Nuff said.

[bulletbill]

the freak really only is made to be used with different types of paint. If you dont reallt care about inserts and stuff, just get a AA or something. For this if you play woods, get a flatline

[Coenen]

Barrel Kits on Blowbacks are pointless
The Flatline out side of woods, scenario, and really long speedball fields is pointless.

Of the two the freak, b/c you can always get a new back when you get a gun that needs a kit.

I would also propose the 12"(or any length for that matter) Lapco Bigshot as a cost effective alternative to both.

[Mongoose87]

Flatline 4 sure!:tup:

[Turambar]

Neither.

[AgentOrange]

I think its stupid to get either for a 98c. But if you stuck a gun to my head, I'd say get the freak. Still wasting your money though.

[chinesebugrepel]

Originally posted by Weaksauce
Play speedball=Freak Kit
Play Recball=Flatline

'Nuff said.

Rec Ball is often speedball, i think you mean woods, maybe trenches and other spread out fields.
Either way, Ive seen people be highly successful on the speedball field with the flatline, it just requires a different style of play. Id say flatline if either. Even though i dont like it as much, its definately more cost effective for a tippmann when a bigshot or cp 1 piece would be just as good as a freak.

[Mongoose87]

Originally posted by chinesebugrepel


Rec Ball is often speedball, i think you mean woods, maybe trenches and other spread out fields.
Either way, Ive seen people be highly successful on the speedball field with the flatline, it just requires a different style of play. Id say for the tippmann...flatline if either. Its the only one that theres really a reason to buy, cuz a bigshot or jjceramic will be just as good as a freak.

:nod: most people underestimate the flatlines effectivness on speedball. It can be used just as effectivly when used right. (plus you can curve balls around bunkers if you relly know what your doing:P )

[chinesebugrepel]

Thats actually exactly what i was referring to. This last weekend there was a guy who was amazing at the bunker curving thing and got as many kills as anyone else out there.

[Ronkend]

First of all I'd like to say all of you have been pretty helpful, except that agent orange guy, he thinks he's all tough , and that a tippy isn't good enough. Let me say I rock with my tippmann and wouldn't trade it for an autococker or any of those high dollar guns..........Also for the dude who said that a Freak kit is pointless for a 98c cause of the blowback please explain yourself......and might I add that I now have an RT trigger and AK rico Hopper.......Let Me Know

My 98C Setup as of Now:
98 Custom
Double Trigger
Maddmann Spring Kit
RT Trigger
14in Ice Cold Barrel
20oz CO2

[laub]

Originally posted by Ronkend
Also for the dude who said that a Freak kit is pointless for a 98c cause of the blow-back please explain yourself....

i think what he means is that if a gun is closed bolt then the paintball is pushed into the barrel before its shot (hence necessary for different inserts to match different paint), if the gun is a blow-back then its not pushed into the barrel. (meaning there's is no point in getting different inserts to match the paint because it wont roll out)..... or maybe i misinterpreted what he said... :D

[AgentOrange]

Originally posted by Ronkend
First of all I'd like to say all of you have been pretty helpful, except that agent orange guy, he thinks he's all tough , and that a tippy isn't good enough. Let me say I rock with my tippmann and wouldn't trade it for an autococker or any of those high dollar guns..........Also for the dude who said that a Freak kit is pointless for a 98c cause of the blowback please explain yourself......and might I add that I now have an RT trigger and AK rico Hopper.......Let Me Know

My 98C Setup as of Now:
98 Custom
Double Trigger
Maddmann Spring Kit
RT Trigger
14in Ice Cold Barrel
20oz CO2

What the hell are you talking about? I own a 98c and dont intend to buy a new gun as mine is good enough for me. I meant both those barrels are stupid for a 98c. Not the gun. I love my 98c, dont jump to conclusions.

And the reason a kit is pointless for a blowback or any non closed bolt marker because on a closed bolt the paint to barrel size is all that prevents rollouts. It would improve the accuracy and effciancy of any gun, but it would be so marginal that you'll have a VERY hard time notcing it.

[blacklabel56]

try a search next time, but if u play more rec, flatline, if u play more tourneys, freak

[Ronkend]

I don't play in tourneys at all yet......no transportation but I do play speedball at the local paintball couarse here in my town....and I've seen people there with flatline's but they never seem to really play that well, and all I have is a 14in Ice Cold barrel and I tear them up...So I'm wondering how would a freak perform on my tippmann

[wheezy123456]

I'd say they perform about the same but go to the general paintball talk forum, because cuervo has a thread on how to perform a real test on barrels to find out which is better. And again i'll say the difference would be marginal and you wouldnt really notice, but then again ive never tried an ice cold barrel, but then again I dont have too.

[hybrid-sniper]

Originally posted by Turambar
Neither.
:nod:
get an AA or CP 1 piece

[Cuervo]

That thread is actually in the Barrels and Paint forum... and linked in my sig.

Get a freak. Someone already mentioned it, but it's not very useful on a Tippman. However, you'll always be able to buy a $30 back and put your whole kit on the next marker you buy. Meanwhile a Flatline is going to leave you wishing you had a better barrel now, as well as SOL later when you get a better marker.

Y'know, maybe I'm the only one who switches guns more than once a lifetime.

[Socom6789]

save yourself $60 and get a J&J Ceramic :)

[Coenen]

Originally posted by Cuervo
That thread is actually in the Barrels and Paint forum... and linked in my sig.

Get a freak. Someone already mentioned it, but it's not very useful on a Tippman. However, you'll always be able to buy a $30 back and put your whole kit on the next marker you buy. Meanwhile a Flatline is going to leave you wishing you had a better barrel now, as well as SOL later when you get a better marker.

Y'know, maybe I'm the only one who switches guns more than once a lifetime. :nod: Well said, Cuervo, are you feeling alright? You've been down right helpful around here lately.

I like my Flatline, when I use it, it is exactly what I want for range and accuracy, but it's a big chance to take for $100 that you'll hate it and be stuck with a barrel that only fits one gun. Whereas the afore mentioned new back will let you put the freak on any gun you buy.

[Ronkend]

Well maybe I won't even buy a new barrel my Ice Cold has done me well everytime I've used it, and since I don't play all the time, maybe a few times a month......But from what you guys are saying sounds to me like the freak could be a better investment....but the flatline normaly holds it's value on the internet so say I buy it for 100$ and use it a few times then sell it for 85$.....I think that's a pretty good deal too.....

[yakitori]

I own a tippmann 98C and I have the freak JR.

IMO, this barrel is awesome. I wouldnt pay that much for a flatline. I think they look ugly anyway.

about accuracy. I have a blue aluminum .689 insert, and shot marballizers this weekend. I was amazed at the accuracy. Before I had this barrel I went through about 1000 balls in a day. 930am-330pm. Just this weekend, I went through 500 only. I think it was because my shots where more accurate, but there were certainly other variables.

[iraqipaintball]

I wouldn't get any of them. The freak would be the choice out of the two but instead you get get a pretty decent barrel: SP tear drop, CP 1 piece, JJ ceramic, SP all american...... and still have enough money for other upgrades.

[p8ntballa#1]

Originally posted by Turambar
Neither. Explain yourself oh mighty mod man ;) Anyway, just get an all american, or a longbow.

[chinesebugrepel]

Just keep your ice cold barrel. Youve said yourself that its gettin the job done.
If it aint broke dont fix it.