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xsiled

12-08-2003, 06:50 PM

are there any markers other then the a-5 that have a loading system off the top of the gun?

actually what im looking for is a way to add a scope or the like to a marker without having half or all of the vision blocked because of the hopper/ elbow.

thanks in advance...

Winchester

12-08-2003, 07:59 PM

There are always right and left feed or the warp feed and thats about ti and the Q loader which is weird looking and not out it yet. thats all i know

Lokichi

12-09-2003, 01:34 AM

The Model 98 custom has an off set feed system as well...perfect for adding optical devices.

Codestar20

12-09-2003, 04:35 AM

From my experience, scopes and other sights do nothing to help you aim. Paintballs are far to inaccurate to use a sight efficiently. But do what you'd like to...

zycat

12-09-2003, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by Codestar20
From my experience, scopes and other sights do nothing to help you aim. Paintballs are far to inaccurate to use a sight efficiently. But do what you'd like to...

They help you to line up your barrel to the target. Useful for a pump player since you must make every shot count.

Don't rely on it too much however.

Kingman27

12-09-2003, 06:06 AM

the evil omen has the offset feed thingy too :P

Lokichi

12-09-2003, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by Kingman27
the evil omen has the offset feed thingy too :P

Ahah! I knew there was another but I just couldn't think of it. But I don't think that thing has a sight rail. Anyone know where I can get a custom rail for my timmy!?:D j/k

CARBON

12-09-2003, 07:18 AM

Don't mean to be crude, but Their are no use for scopes in paintball. A paintball is not a bullet therefore its accuracy is always undetermined, its changed by the temperature, wind, rain. You get the idea. :)

xsiled

12-09-2003, 03:22 PM

i know a paintball isnt a bullet, but you still do not have pin point with a bullet with wind or distance, i just want an aproximation of where its going to him and from striaght on vs. trying to watch the shot...

pipe dreams sure, but i can dream ;)

CARBON

12-09-2003, 05:11 PM

xsiled

12-09-2003, 05:16 PM

thats all i play, most of the time its night or late afternoon games where picking someone off without being seen really makes a difference.

are there any decent spyder range guns that use a angle loader?

whats the real difference in preformance between vert and angle?

CARBON

12-09-2003, 05:22 PM

well, people like the vert feeds because lots of time, the angle feed I find will kind of get in the way, it puts your loader off to the side, where as a vert feed centers it over your gun. This is why high end guns have vert feeds. Like angels, and cockers and Timmys. But, If you use a scope, then get the angle feed so the loader isnt in the way.

wanabe TOSA

12-10-2003, 10:26 AM

well you can always put your scope on the side of the marker

you can sight your scope as if it were on the top

xsiled

12-10-2003, 11:47 AM

uh... how would it stay on...

Durandal

12-10-2003, 12:32 PM

Duct Tape! Works for everything!

nerdcore

12-10-2003, 12:35 PM

or epoxy

wanabe TOSA

12-10-2003, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by xsiled
uh... how would it stay on...

go to some sniper web sites - they have that kinda stuff on there

CARBON

12-10-2003, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Durandal
Duct Tape! Works for everything!

that is so ghetto:laugh:

Bellator_Fortus

12-10-2003, 04:13 PM

Scope on a paintball gun = :finger:

M1 Garands are far more accurate and longer ranged than any paintball gun ever will be, and they don't have scopes, so why put a scope on your marker?

Woods Sniper

12-10-2003, 06:31 PM

If you absolutely must use a scope, just pick up a 1x red dot site. Don't bother with any of that magnification crap.

I myself used to just shoot the first ball and correct after that, but after awhile you'll get used to your gun, and shoot it like it's an extension of yourself. You won't have to aim any longer, it'll all be automatic.

xsiled

12-10-2003, 06:34 PM

garands didnt have scopes because they were the general infantry weapon, its impractical to have a whole army my scopes...

the other one

12-11-2003, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Bellator_Fortus
M1 Garands are far more accurate and longer ranged than any paintball gun ever will be, and they don't have scopes, so why put a scope on your marker?

with a scope, an M1 would be more accurate...

(they had sniper versions, with a trippy mount on it, so the shells can still be ejected- it was wierd)

an optical sight of about 3x will work better than a traditional scope ever will for paintball.;)

Bellator_Fortus

12-11-2003, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by the other one
with a scope, an M1 would be more accurate...

That's true, but the Garand was still accurate enough to get the kill. For the basic infantryman, a scope wasn't necessary, because they could shoot well enough without it.

Another thing, it takes longer (for me, anyway) to sight with a scope than to use a regular sight. You could be dead by the time you get the crosshairs on the target. That was another good reason for a basic infantryman not to have it.

wanabe TOSA

12-11-2003, 04:11 PM

what are you an historian ?

even tho i somewhat get ur point you should never compare a paintball marker to a gun

pbpi

12-12-2003, 02:30 PM

not to get off topic, although i am but yeah as bellator_fortus said, they did make a sniper version of the Garand, and it did have a scope but more to the point, people in the military put red dot scopes and other optical devices on little submachine guns that are used up close.... optical devices are not strictly for long range like a normal scope they are often red dot scopes or things such as the Bushnell Halo Sight that are extremely effective for fast target acquision at close or long ranges...... and at least for me i'm not trying to compare firearms simply the use of optical devices......

triple_b_83

12-13-2003, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by xsiled
i know a paintball isnt a bullet, but you still do not have pin point with a bullet with wind or distance, i just want an aproximation of where its going to him and from striaght on vs. trying to watch the shot...

pipe dreams sure, but i can dream ;)

What the heck are you talking about? Bullets have pin point accuracy for a mile (50 cal.). The 21st bullets take the cartridge with them like a small rocket and the test models can go 2 miles with pinpoint accuracy and still go through tank armor. I saw a bullet take a head off a pin and they slowed the film down slow enough to see the tip of the bullet hit the head of the pin. Is that not pinpoint accuracy?

ShadowWalker

12-13-2003, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by triple_b_83

What the heck are you talking about? Bullets have pin point accuracy for a mile (50 cal.). The 21st bullets take the cartridge with them like a small rocket and the test models can go 2 miles with pinpoint accuracy and still go through tank armor. I saw a bullet take a head off a pin and they slowed the film down slow enough to see the tip of the bullet hit the head of the pin. Is that not pinpoint accuracy?

no. its pin head accuracy.:laugh: :rolleyes:

amzng_spyderman

12-13-2003, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by ShadowWalker

no. its pin head accuracy.:laugh: :rolleyes:
i've never heard of pin 'head' accuracy, only pin-point.

btw, a scope won't make an m1 more accurate. it'll make the shooter more accurate ;) an m1 will hit what you point at no matter what, but it might not hit what you think you're pointing at. anyway, get back on topic. you can talk about real guns in the off topic forum.

ShadowWalker

12-13-2003, 03:15 PM

it was a joke...because they shot a pin head and not a pin point...ah nevermind.

plushdragon

12-15-2003, 02:09 PM

there also the vf tactacl cocker that out that made to have red dod sight mounted on the frount of the gun.
http://www.armyoforr.com/vftactical.html