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Cuervo
01-05-2004, 08:56 AM
I didn't expect much from AOL news, but here's a nice little gem:

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20040105082109990001

Quit complaining about shooting squirrels, already.

Six Feet Under
01-05-2004, 08:59 AM
Can you copy-and-paste the article? I'm not an actual AOL user I just have AIM on my computer so I can't read it.

Ace_Paintballer
01-05-2004, 09:04 AM
CHICAGO (Jan. 5) - Injuries to adults and children playing paintball have tripled in recent years, including eye damage causing lasting vision loss, a study found.

From 1997 to 2000, paintball-related injuries nationwide climbed from 926 to 2,780, with up to a third occurring in children younger than 15, according to the study, which analyzed injury data from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission.

In 1999 alone, there were 519 eye injuries among 779 total paintball-related injuries to children under 15. Bleeding and retina detachment were among the most common eye injuries.

Many injuries occur because players are not wearing goggles or face masks, said researcher Dr. David Listman of St. Barnabas Hospital in New York.

Doctors should be aware of the dangers and lobby for restrictions in paintball equipment sales to minors, Listman said.

His study appears in January's Pediatrics, published Monday.

Paintball is a battle game in which players shoot at each other using compressed-gas guns filled with marble-size paint capsules.

The game is played at organized paintball centers, which usually provide and require face masks, Listman said. But children often play without protective equipment in woods, back yards or even basements, he said.

Tim Richmond of the Paintball Business Association, which provides insurance for paintball fields and services for about 400 accounts, said the Greenville, S.C.-based group's safety requirements include goggles or full face masks.

In 1999, an estimated 8 million people played paintball at more than 2,500 sites, Listman said.

Cuervo
01-05-2004, 09:05 AM
Study Finds Paintball Injuries on Rise

CHICAGO (Jan. 5) - Injuries to adults and children playing paintball have tripled in recent years, including eye damage causing lasting vision loss, a study found.

From 1997 to 2000, paintball-related injuries nationwide climbed from 926 to 2,780, with up to a third occurring in children younger than 15, according to the study, which analyzed injury data from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission.

In 1999 alone, there were 519 eye injuries among 779 total paintball-related injuries to children under 15. Bleeding and retina detachment were among the most common eye injuries.

Many injuries occur because players are not wearing goggles or face masks, said researcher Dr. David Listman of St. Barnabas Hospital in New York.

Doctors should be aware of the dangers and lobby for restrictions in paintball equipment sales to minors, Listman said.

His study appears in January's Pediatrics, published Monday.

Paintball is a battle game in which players shoot at each other using compressed-gas guns filled with marble-size paint capsules.

The game is played at organized paintball centers, which usually provide and require face masks, Listman said. But children often play without protective equipment in woods, back yards or even basements, he said.

Tim Richmond of the Paintball Business Association, which provides insurance for paintball fields and services for about 400 accounts, said the Greenville, S.C.-based group's safety requirements include goggles or full face masks.

In 1999, an estimated 8 million people played paintball at more than 2,500 sites, Listman said.

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press.

Helmut
01-05-2004, 09:17 AM
Many injuries occur because players are not wearing goggles or face masks

Ya don't say. Who would have ever thought of that.

littlethug_69
01-05-2004, 09:36 AM
thos stupid kids need to learn to keep there masks on

teufelhunden
01-05-2004, 10:01 AM
And that's why little kids and idiots shouldn't play paintball.

nerdcore
01-05-2004, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Ace_Paintballer
From 1997 to 2000, paintball-related injuries nationwide climbed from 926 to 2,780, with up to a third occurring in children younger than 15, according to the study, which analyzed injury data from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission. Are they saying people are getting dumber? There are safety guidelines for paintball!

Many injuries occur because players are not wearing goggles or face masks, said researcher Dr. David Listman of St. Barnabas Hospital in New York. So being stupid does hurt.

Doctors should be aware of the dangers and lobby for restrictions in paintball equipment sales to minors, Listman said. They already do - must be 18+ yrs old.

Paintball is a battle game in which players shoot at each other using compressed-gas guns filled with marble-size paint capsules. How inaccurate is this description? It's a sport, not a battle game. Theyr'e referred to as 'markers' not 'guns' because they don't shoot bullets. Hoppers are filled with "paint capsules," not the marker itself.

SpyderLuvverX
01-05-2004, 10:49 AM
their all a bunch of sutpid kids (not refering to all kids) who dont wear goggles, or play by the rules. they are stupid idiots who will continue to give paintball a bad name. sigh...........if only ppl werent stupid........:rolleyes:

i like tictacs
01-05-2004, 10:50 AM
What reputation?

ZZYZX
01-05-2004, 10:50 AM
I think we should study the number of injuries from playing backyard football, or maybe hockey. I can assure you it's at least twice the number.

This is why I hate the news. :rolleyes:

dashfan87
01-05-2004, 10:56 AM
dang cuervo you beat me to it, but yeah it shows how dumb the media is and how they can twist things into whatever they want. i think that the reality is though that, paintball will forever have a bad rap, just because we do "shoot" "markers" that look like guns.....i mean basicly they are guns really. and the majority of paintball players are from age 12-25(guess useing fact i have seen b4) so if you dont play paintball and your in the media, its like a gem to them, "kids playing a battel game, injuries are riseing!!" and i think imo thats how it will always be.....course that is my opinon i would love to see paintball flurish and all this media crap go away, but i think that if paintball does become a sport that is majorly televised wouldnt the media just find a way to make it look bad,"kid trying to imatate his favorite profesional paintball player from tv shoots brother in the eye." basicly the media is always gunna have a say in things and its never "kids go to paintball camp and stay off streets" its always bad, so im just gunna do what i like and ignore the stupid media, and just play paintball..........untill the media takes over the world and we all die a horrible horrible firey death:D

chibissj
01-05-2004, 11:07 AM
wow..that article was probably written by someone who already hated pball. Amazing how the news is used as propaganda. They never show it from both sides.

nole16k
01-05-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by chibissj
They never show it from both sides. Never.

Media = crap. :pissed:

i like tictacs
01-05-2004, 11:57 AM
Wait, so what about this article shows the media being biased again? It's just the straight up facts. Paintball has more players, more people get hurt. Get over it.

nole16k
01-05-2004, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by i like tictacs
Wait, so what about this article shows the media being biased again? It's just the straight up facts. Paintball has more players, more people get hurt. Get over it. I agree, but what I said doesn't just imply for paintball.

mopo-85
01-05-2004, 12:00 PM
I agre isent the news not supposed to be bias...

teufelhunden
01-05-2004, 12:00 PM
I think they're objecting to some of the typical media ignorance- notably not making a point out of the fact that most of these injuries were because people didn't observe safety rules. Also, paintball being called a battle game is touchy with some people who don't realize that shooting at someone is just a bit similiar to battle.

i like tictacs
01-05-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by nole16k
I agree, but what I said doesn't just imply for paintball.
that wasn't really aimed at you, just the thread in general

nole16k
01-05-2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by i like tictacs

that wasn't really aimed at you, just the thread in general Oh

Christian-PB-er
01-05-2004, 01:10 PM
Many injuries occur because players are not wearing goggles or face masks, said researcher Dr. David Listman of St. Barnabas Hospital in New York.


Ya don't say. Who would have ever thought of that.

i agree. i cant think of any other way of getting injured in paintball besides not having a mask on. the article SHOULD be titled...

"paintball is not a good sport for stupid people who just want to hurt people and not follow safty rules"

what will the media hounds think of next???:pissed:

Azn_gansta
01-05-2004, 01:10 PM
this article isnt bad just telling paintball there are more paintball injuries due increasing numbers playing the game. The article says that injuries come from not following the rules. No bad in that, thats telling epople there are rules and people get hurt if they dont follow the rules. its like if they ddid a study about tackle football without any pads.
This article is nuetral, and if anything is telling people about the proper paintball

Christian-PB-er
01-05-2004, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Azn_gansta
this article isnt bad just telling paintball there are more paintball injuries due increasing numbers playing the game. The article says that injuries come from not following the rules. No bad in that, thats telling epople there are rules and people get hurt if they dont follow the rules. its like if they ddid a study about tackle football without any pads.
This article is nuetral, and if anything is telling people about the proper paintball

if this article is nuetral then whats up with this...

Doctors should be aware of the dangers and lobby for restrictions in paintball equipment sales to minors, Listman said.


Paintball is a battle game in which players shoot at each other using compressed-gas guns filled with marble-size paint capsules.
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paintball equiptment is NOT sold to minors and has not been for YEARS!!! you must be 18 or older to puchase it!!!

they say BATTLE GAME because if they said ELIMINATION or CAPTURE THE FLAG it would look harmless and nobody would be worried!!!

they say GUNS because MARKERS would not sound violent enough to stir up hate agenst paintball!!!

they say MARBLE SIZE CAPSULS because GUM BALL or 68 CAL. does not sound hard or dangerous enough to be convincing!!!

this article is writen by some one who probly hates paintball anyway. besides nobody wants to hear about RISING POPULARITY IN PAINTBALL, just PAINTBALL INJORIES INCRESE OVER THE PAST YEAR!!!

i see this article as total hipocrasy and slander. it is nothing but the media doing what they do best... making paintball look bad!!!

VeNoM
01-05-2004, 01:36 PM
I didn't know paintball had a reputation :rolleyes: ....

Most people are like, whats that? Or, oh ya, I want to try that some time, and never actually do....


Of course the more (stupid) people that play the more injuries there will be, this shouldn't surprise anyway.

Azn_gansta
01-05-2004, 01:39 PM
paintball sales arent only for 18+.
the dangers are not wearing masks not the game.
marble size is a little smaller then a pb
they called it war game big deal
compressed air guns is exactly right
the article shows the increase in popularity of paintball if u dont see that ur an idiot

Paintballshurt
01-05-2004, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Azn_gansta
paintball sales arent only for 18+.


Yeah i'm only fifteen and i buy all my own stuff

the other one
01-05-2004, 02:24 PM
Tim Richmond of the Paintball Business Association, which provides insurance for paintball fields and services for about 400 accounts, said the Greenville, S.C.-based group's safety requirements include goggles or full face masks.

In 1999, an estimated 8 million people played paintball at more than 2,500 sites, Listman said.


i dunno about you guys, but i thought that they did mention some good stuff in their article. Sure, they aren't experts on the subject, but hey; nobody's perfect.:|

Cuervo
01-05-2004, 03:32 PM
If you don't see the reporting bias in this article, let me outline it.

Injuries to adults and children playing paintball have tripled in recent years, including eye damage causing lasting vision loss, a study found.
The very first line states the results of the study in the negative. The focus is clearly not on the study, but instead of paintball. This is how most activist reports are written.

From 1997 to 2000, paintball-related injuries nationwide climbed from 926 to 2,780, with up to a third occurring in children younger than 15, according to the study, which analyzed injury data from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission.

In 1999 alone, there were 519 eye injuries among 779 total paintball-related injuries to children under 15. Bleeding and retina detachment were among the most common eye injuries.
They don't bother to mention here (where it is most relevent), or anywhere (where it is applicable) that paintball has grown plenty more than 3 times since 1997. They don't mention that the risk of eye injury or that the percentage has gone down--only the raw numbers. That's why you can never believe a statistic. Ever.

Many injuries occur because players are not wearing goggles or face masks, said researcher Dr. David Listman of St. Barnabas Hospital in New York.

Doctors should be aware of the dangers and lobby for restrictions in paintball equipment sales to minors, Listman said.
Here's the killer. One setence they explain the cause, according to some twit who can look at specific files and ignore everything else. The next, they propose a solution. Only problem is, it solves the, you guessed it, WRONG PROBLEM. Restricting sales of equipment to minors also restricts sales of SAFETY equipment to minors, which, if I recall (and I do, since I only have to look up one sentence), is the problem in the first place.

The game is played at organized paintball centers, which usually provide and require face masks, Listman said. But children often play without protective equipment in woods, back yards or even basements, he said.
According to his solution, they wouldn't be able to use eye protection at either place because minors couldn't buy it. That and the blatant lie of "often play without protective equipment" is completely stupid because there is no way of verifying it. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that he didn't research that (since there were no numbers worth putting into the article, that's a pretty safe assumption.)

Now, take a look at the overall structure of the article. Assuming the page broken sentences were actually paragraphs, I'll order them as positive towards paintball (P), negative towards paintball (N), indifferent towards paintball (I). There are, by my count, 10 paragraphs.

NNNNNIINPI

More than half the article blatantly presents paintball negatively. A tenth of the article presents it positively. This is what the media calls "unbiased" reporting. The media does this all over the place, be it on a simple subject like this, or on a more complex subject (politics, etc.)

Six Feet Under
01-05-2004, 03:44 PM
If you don't wear your goggles then you stand a great chance of being hit in the eye with a paintball and being blinded by it. If you wear your goggles, the chance is reduced to practically none at all. For the "over 700 injuries in paintball", how many of them actually weren't wearing eye and face protection? Or, how many of them were wearing what they thought qualified as adequate eye protection like shop goggles for instance, and the goggles blew out when they got hit from 3 feet away while playing in their basement.:rolleyes:

nerdcore
01-05-2004, 03:49 PM
something else i noticed... it reports an increase in injuries from 1997 to 2000. what about 2001-present? it may be too early to compile info about 2003 but 2001 & 2002 stats should be available.

kangaroodent
01-05-2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by ZZYZX
I think we should study the number of injuries from playing backyard football, or maybe hockey. I can assure you it's at least twice the number.

This is why I hate the news. :rolleyes:

Paintball has a 0.02% injury exposure rating (meaning how likely it is to be hurt playing it), which is the same as Yoga. Go figure. That's in the actual supervised and properly equipmentized (however say you) sport, though, not in your basement playing with these kits where you get a pair of sunglasses and some tubes of paint... I read about those somewhere. Whomever makes them should die, because they've probably already lost 200000000 kids their lives (an exxageration, please note.)

dashfan87
01-05-2004, 04:17 PM
verey nicley said, i think its basicly this, dont trust what the TV says..........or computer in this case.

and all of you that are here just to post a comment that goes agianst what the majority thinks(you know who you are) it gets old fast, i mean we all know that paintball gets a bad wrap from the media, and the reson your friends dont know when they say "oh yeah i wanna try that" or "it looks fun" is because its the parents that see the media more than the kids, and the kids dont care, i mean how many of us go ooh that looks dangerious im not doing that!!.....i mean seriously.:eyes: :rolleyes:

Deceased_Sniper
01-05-2004, 05:14 PM
K guys I got a question. My bro just sold his friend a bunch of crappy equipment with a mask that fogs every 30 seconds... He always puts his mask up when he plays and he thinks hes not going to go shot in the face, I have told him and told him to puit it down but he can't stand it? What to do?

Oh and lets say someone said, "Dude I don't care if you shoot me in the eye. Lets just play!" But you actually do shoot them in the eye by accident... can you get charged and stuff?

-Deceased_Sniper

Jeezer
01-05-2004, 05:37 PM
How about not play with him until he does keep his mask on?

GIZMO8Z
01-05-2004, 06:35 PM
I don't know if this has been posted or not, but it doesn't actually tarnish paintball's image. It tells the public that if you play paintball the right way, you'll be fine and have fun. However, if you fool around and break the rules, you're bound to get hurt.

spydermanxt
01-05-2004, 06:48 PM
the reason injuries are on the rise is because PLAYERS are on the rise. this is never said in the article...if it were to say something like
"the sport of paintball is growing fast, and naturally so are the injuries"

it would be a lot better...as so many have said before me...if u look at any growing sport...u will see the growing number of injuries


PAINTBALL HAS THE SAME INJURY PERCENTAGE AS YOGA :D :laugh:

I can see the headlines now


"Yoga equipment should not be sold to minors. This barbaric ritual is hospitalizing more and more children and adults as the years go by. Who thought of this evil art?"

Assass!n
01-05-2004, 06:57 PM
Wow, I just got a nice, healthy dose of ignorance for the day.

Coenen
01-05-2004, 06:59 PM
That's what it says from your point of view, you are already into the sport, hence you see it from a different prespective than someone who has little or no exposure to paintball at all.

As for these statistics, they can be as accurate as they want, but 2,500 people out of...how many million players? Assuming 3,000,000 paintball players in 2000, and 2500 injuries, unless I am wrong(I could be) that's about 1 out of every 1200 players gets injured.

Think about football, about 50 or 60 guys on the team, in a given season, AT LEAST one of them is going to get injured in some way shape or form. And those figures, however rough they maybe, are just for legit football teams that play fully equipped.

Also think about this NO ONE has EVER been killed playing paintball, can football, baseball, and hockey make the same claim? Even since paintball's inception in the 80's I think not.

The media needs to get it facts straight before shooting off it's mouth.

paintballer42o
01-05-2004, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by littlethug_69
thos stupid kids need to learn to keep there masks on
what everyone said, including this one

Lopez17
01-05-2004, 07:01 PM
Articles like this are hilarious. 500 eye injuries out of 8,000,000 participants. That's what we, in the professional world, call a statistical outlier. .02 percent of participants will get hurt playing. ALL the injuries I've seen are sports injuries that will never compare to what I've seen playing soccer and hoops. The worst paintball injury I've seen in paintball was a slightly fractured leg (and the common twisted ankle). The worst injury I've seen (other than ghoulish knee injuries) in soccer was a guy that broke his leg through his shin guards in such a way that the doctors had to insert 4 titanium plates and over 14 screws to hold his tibia together. He was on a morphine drip for two weeks and was told he'll never play soccer again. Not to mention teeth getting knocked out from bad headers or 50-50 balls gone awry and multiple stitches to heads and arms and legs. Paintball is hilariously safe all things being equal.

Honestly though the article does say that the people getting hurt aren't wearing the safety equipment. I just think this is another example of darwinism at work :wink2:

If you intentionally don't wear a mask ... you deserve what you have coming.

soundman
01-05-2004, 07:08 PM
I rember seeing a chart showing sports injurys and bowling and paintballing were like 1 or 2 % something ungodly low. The reason I am asking is because my boss was talking about how here sons friend played youth soccer and broke something that messed up his growth plate so they had to brake the other one. So for 6 weeks or what ever he had both legs busted thats when I said sometihng to the effect of if the team was a paintball team the facts show he wouldn't be hurt. to that she said "yea but every day he played he would be coverd in bruises" now 1st of all I know you get roughed up playing soccer and 2nd I would much rather have bruises for a day or 2 than to be in a wheel chair for 6 weeks. Also as long as you dont suck you wont be coverd in bruise she choose not to accept this and then snickerd at me when I told her I was going to drop a $100 for one day of paintball this weekend yet she smoke like a chimny grr..

Benz
01-05-2004, 08:40 PM
Heh, I haven't seen the media post the hundreds of thousands of injuries sustained while playing football, hockey, drownings from kayacking or deaths from rockclimbing. Paintball is the safest sport . Its amazing only that many people were injured compared to the millions that play it. The only reason the injuries tripled was because of the number of people that play it has risen. I want to see some numbers of injuries per capita , not total number of injuries, that number is always skewed.

Assass!n
01-06-2004, 11:40 AM
I think the most common injuries in paintball are knee injuries. Everytime I see someone get hurt its a knee injury. I've even had a paintball related knee injury. (slid into a rock : 5 stitches. next day : bought knee pads)

Ankle injuries would come next I think.

Smakman
01-06-2004, 01:36 PM
Media bias? Naw! (Sarcasm)

LAMANTEthePBguy
01-06-2004, 03:18 PM
The main reason paintball is so safe, is (assuming you follow all the rules) becasue there is no physical contact. Look at the sports that are high. They all involve physical contact, where paintball, and other low injury sports have none.

kangaroodent
01-06-2004, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Lopez17
[...Honestly though the article does say that the people getting hurt aren't wearing the safety equipment. I just think this is another example of darwinism at work :wink2: ...

Anyone here read the Darwin Awards? #3 should have some paintball in it, cause if you're stupid enough to take off your mask, then you're eligible for at least an Honorable Mention.

I agree with whomever posted that thing concerning Yoga getting banned. If we all played in Supairball fields and had jerseys and not camo on, then paintball would be like "Wow."

AOL should stop being a giant faceless multinational corporation and get their collective brain cells together to squeeze out some real journalism, not propoganda or filler. Or that's not degrading to paintball. Dumb nuts.

Christian-PB-er
01-06-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by spydermanxt



PAINTBALL HAS THE SAME INJURY PERCENTAGE AS YOGA :D :laugh:

I can see the headlines now


"Yoga equipment should not be sold to minors. This barbaric ritual is hospitalizing more and more children and adults as the years go by. Who thought of this evil art?"

:D :crazy:

youknowitall200
01-06-2004, 05:00 PM
I broke my brothers finger playing pool when he decided to stick hand in the way to stop my shot...alert the media cause they aint heard about that pool is a death sport.

Christian-PB-er
01-07-2004, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by kangaroodent


Anyone here read the Darwin Awards? #3 should have some paintball in it, cause if you're stupid enough to take off your mask, then you're eligible for at least an Honorable Mention.



i've heard of those. we study them at my school sometimes.

i think these people who go paintballing without a mask should be right buy the guy who killed all the fish in a lake with electrisity and then got electracuted because he left the live wire in the lake when he tried to get the fish out!!!:D

people need to stop being stupid and doing things like that because it ruins paintballs rep. and the only thing the mdeia loves more then a sport being popular is trying to make a sport unpopular. (or sumtin like dat):pissed:

[Infusion]BigC
01-07-2004, 08:21 AM
I fell down the stairs and got hurt 10 minutes ago.

They shouldn't let minors own or use stairs.

...:rolleyes:

SilentButDeadly
01-07-2004, 08:28 AM
Doctors should be aware of the dangers and lobby for restrictions in paintball equipment sales to minors, Listman said.
Hmmmm...good idea. Lets make paintball masks and safety equipment illegal for minors to buy. That way of course they'll use it......

iboomker
01-07-2004, 09:43 AM
Don't stereotype all members of the media. I saw this story when it crossed the AP wires. I corrected the information before it aired. I saw what the other stations did with the story and I was very dissapointed. I have been trying to push a story about PB. Paintball is a safe sport if you play by the rules. It's when someone does something stupid, someone gets hurt. And that gives the sport a bad name. To add another twist....... everytime you get hit by a paintball your injured......... But I wont go there. If I ever do the story i'll put it here.

Let the Flaming begin



Out

nerdcore
01-07-2004, 09:46 AM
whatever happened to paintball being the "safest recreational sport in 2002"? anyone else remember that & where i can get more info on it?

Coenen
01-07-2004, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by iboomker
To add another twist....... everytime you get hit by a paintball your injured

Just like every time you get hit in Football or someone accidentally kicks you in Soccer or checks you in Hockey.

the other one
01-08-2004, 12:33 PM
yeah, i think being a lineman in football would be a bit more dangerous than paintball...

something funny- my parents don't want me playing football because it's too dangerous, while they don't mind me playing paintball, even though it's given me 10 stitches (indirectly, of course).

kangaroodent
01-08-2004, 03:21 PM
Huh, iboomker, that is not being injured. Being injured is spraining an ankle, breaking a leg, but NOT GETTING BRUISES! Last time I checked, when you get a bruise in hockey or football that doesn't count as an injury (exceptions being some pro league players).

If bruises were counted as injuries, our sport would have a 100% injury rate.

NOTE: I accidentally placed the decimal one point too far on "0.02%." It's actually 0.2%, which works out to an average of one major injury per 500 years. I did not mess the decimals up on saying 500 years.

Every time I've ever played paintball with my brother, I've gogged him. It's the only place I ever hit him, and I can't imagine what my life would be like now if he'd just brought up his mask for a breather for one second... It would be baaaad.

iboomker
01-08-2004, 04:29 PM
kangaroodent - I know I was just throwing that idea out. You know us media people :crazy: I can see someone who never played bring that issue up. I think it's a very safe sport. It only take one idiot to give the sport a bad rap.

If you look below, it says that there are 2800 injuries from 1999-2001. So how many paintballers are there in the US? I'll throw out a number 500,000. Lets just say for a number that the 500,000 paintballers played 3 times a year. So that 1.5 million times paint ball is played. This would be the injury rate.

0.0018666666666666666666666666666667.

Taking an educated guess.... I would say that in a year there are more paintball games played. Just in the past month i've played 4 times. And I am sure that goes the same for the rest of ya.

So, to add a positive spin to this. We need to look out for the sport. If you see anyone playing without a mask speak up and say something. It's bad enough that we get idiots who think it's cool to shoot up things in town or people on the street. It's up to us to keep the sport in a positive light.


The AP wire should have said.
AP-Paintball Injuries (HFR 12:01 a.m. ET)

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! GENERAL NEWS !

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Study finds paintball injuries on the rise
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(Chicago-AP) -- A new study finds that idiots playing paintball isn't just
harmless fun.
Data from the government shows injuries among stupid unsafe players have tripled in recent years.
From 1997 to 2000, injuries climbed from 926 to nearly
28-hundred.
In 1999 alone, there were 519 eye injuries among 779 total
paintball-related injuries to children under 15. Bleeding and
retina detachment were among the most common eye injuries. We have found that the head injuries did not actually occur durning the playing of the sport, Rather from being dropped on the head when they were babies.
Researcher David Listman with St. Barnabas Hospital in New York
says many injuries occur because these idiots are not wearing goggles or
face masks.
His study -- to be published Monday -- appears in January's
Pediatrics.

%AP Links

Sound: upcoming
(Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
APNP-01-04-04 2237CST7

kangaroodent
01-08-2004, 04:35 PM
I take back my stupid comments. Though I still don't thoroughly understand what you were saying, it doesn't matter though. Is that really from the AP? Amazing, they called someone stupid. I'm assuming it is, cause you wrote copyright info on the bottom... Could be just me again.

XtraBoy
01-08-2004, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by [Infusion]BigC
I fell down the stairs and got hurt 10 minutes ago.

They shouldn't let minors own or use stairs.

...:rolleyes:


Ugh... Stairs on cruises hurt... alot...

iboomker
01-08-2004, 06:54 PM
Yes it's from the AP wire with my added input. so no it's not from the AP Wire

lol

ratimpy
01-08-2004, 08:47 PM
A few days ago i heard something about this on the radio.

FireViper
01-09-2004, 11:32 AM
Couple of things I disliked about this article

1st doesn't uses percantages so it smaells of a bit o sensationalism. Numbers are next to useless when you talk about one of the top three xtreme sports; tally skate boarding injuries and you'd probably think it was horrendous.

2nd. They fail to mention that if you go to the hospital after twisting you ankle on a rock and add "...while playing paintball...." you have instantly become a paintball injury statistic even though paintball was just what you were doing not the real cause.

Things I don't have problems with:

*Them calling paintball guns paintball guns. I call them gun because they are..they are not firearms but they are guns. all firearms ar guns but not all guns are firearms. I don't give a rat's behind if it not pc (might as well be a four letter word) because I'd rather momy think her baby shouldn't have a gun than him hurt someone else or himself.

*It does mention that most eye injuries are caused by people ignoring safety issues.
*it also mentions that field insurance requires mask/goggles therefore the fields will enforce these requirements.

SUMMARY:
Give me percentages
Break them down into classes of injury eye, sprain, etc
Call em GUNS
They did report somethings right.

Christian-PB-er
01-09-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by FireViper
SUMMARY:
Give me percentages
Break them down into classes of injury eye, sprain, etc
Call em GUNS
They did report somethings right.

i can see your point. but it seems like the person writing this is already anti paintball or he would have done all those things you found wrong.:cool: