Real looking yea or ney???

[NeedForSpeed]

You guys know what your talking about so I've come to you for your opinion. I'm thinking about getting a "realistic" looking paintball gun. If the price is right, and built to last would you buy a nearly exact replica [of the real thing] paintball gun (has exactly the same specs. as a "regular" pb gun).

So what do you think?

[Longbow_UMD]

I'm all about real looking paintball guns. Just out of curiosity, what's the gun you're planning on getting? Ever been to http://www.rustyspaintballgear.com/ ? They have some really realistic looking stuff.

[pr0kch0p]

if you want realism go play airsoft with the other swat team rejects.

paintball is played with paintball markers, not mp5's and ak-47's.

[Magadeth]

For me, that would depend on wat 9it was based off of. I really dont care if my paintball gun looks like a real gun or not, but the fact is that most real guns are set up more ergonomically and balanced better than most paintball guns. An MP5 for instance feels like it is made for your hand. It is extremely comfortable to shoot and all of its controls are placed perfectly. If I had the choice of a paintball gun with the feel of an mp5 or the feel of a spyder, with the same price and performance, I would go with the one that is better balanced and more comfortable to shoot.(the mp5) Of course, thats why I bought my mag way back when. It fits my hand perfectly and the balance of the un is great. It may not be a sexy looking as some other markers, but so what.

[ThaFiend]

OMG magadeth have you ever held an Mp5 before? They aren't well balanced at all, they're just light as ****, so it seems like it, you can get the same feeling with a paintball marker only instead of having a clip with around 30 bullets in it you'll have 200 paintballs and a metal tank attatched. Most real guns are light weight cause they're made mainly out of plastics now (except for the barrel trigger and frame) which just makes them seem well balanced, plus thats for a real gun, which doesn't have a tank and hopper. Also, many replica guns ARE spyders with the bodies of real guns on them. Some are the kind that the Marines use for scenario practice in buildings which are M4's converted into paintball guns so those are actually the real thing converted, which probably would have good balance, cause they don't use hoppers....... but those m4's are really expensive and they have a gun trigger which is nowhere near as fast as the trigger on a marker, and the replica guns are just spyders with new bodies or extra stuff put on it to make it look like a real gun, which are also expensive. So you can either be a ******* and buy a slow *** M4's converted paintball gun or you can be an even bigger ******* and buy a spyder with extra parts on it......... take your pick.

[Magadeth]

actually, yes, I have held and fired an MP5, and I own a copy of an HK91 with the federal arms reciever made by century arms. It is basically the same rolling block setup as the mp5 but is a full sized rifle chambered for .308

:P

[Magadeth]

heres a crappy pic of it. Its actually quite heavy.

[Ramius]

Hey porkchop, shut up and keep your opinions to yourself please.

Realistic gun or not? Do you play tournement? What types of settings/fields do you use? Do you consider yourself a sniper or more like general infantry?

If you play tournement and aren't a sniper it doesn't make a difference what gun you have as long as it is capable of launching paintballs up to 300 fps in an accurate manner.

On the other hand, if you play in wooded areas/ghost towns and such, where concealment is a larger factor, you don't want your tricked out chrome gun attracting too much attention. Stick with simple dark colors such as black, brown, and dark green. Some metalic color are alright as long as the don't shine and have a dull finish.

Just think about where you play and how you go about playing there and I'm sure you can make the right decision.

[AngrySloth]

Hey Ramius, judging by what I see of you, you just registered in the last few days. If you had been here longer you would know that Prokchop is a respected member of our little "community" and has been here a lot longer than you. And these forums are all about posting your opinions, try to respect that. And remember the mods don't like people with your kind of attitude.

Anyway, my opinion on the matter is if other people want to use realistic looking markers, that's their desicion. Just remember that they're not setting a good example for our wonderful sport. If somebody already thinks paintball is a violent sport sent by the devil, then seeing a PSG-1 or M4 replica paintball marker will only reinforce their beliefs.

[stobooy01]

Nay on the realistic guns.... just not my bag baby.
And besides $2100 for a cosmetically modified ATS !?! are you insane !

[pr0kch0p]

Originally posted by Ramius
Hey porkchop, shut up and keep your opinions to yourself please.

OK! Whatever you say sir!

When people post a thread ill make sure not to post because you told me not. Seeing as you have all the authority here. :rolleyes:

You are obviously a newbie, seeing as you still think you can be a sniper. There is no such thing as snipers or general infantry in paintball. Paintball is a sport, not a war reinactment.

As i said in another thread, paintball guns are sports equipment not weapon replicas. If you want weapon replicas play airsoft.

[snipinhick]

Um...... the feind.........

most all guns are made of strickly metal. I would like you to mention a gun that is "mostly" plastic so i can debate what you are saying.

[Ebonclaw]

He's right Snip. There must be a ton out there. Terrorists make 'em to get past metal detectors. Govt makes 'em cuz they're lightweight, cheap, and if made of the proper plastic, durable. Not to mentioan you don't have the water hassle you have with metal. There ARE plastic guns out there.

[DontKillWhitey]

I say maybe, if it was under 300, performed as good as other guns in the price range and was a MP5 MAYBE, i just have a thing for MP5's.

[Longbow_UMD]

What if it cost $500, looked a helluva lot like an MC-51, and outperformed every other $500 gun out there? Cuz I've got one of those. :D

[pr0kch0p]

Originally posted by Longbow_UMD
What if it cost $500, looked a helluva lot like an MC-51, and outperformed every other $500 gun out there? Cuz I've got one of those. :D

no you dont, sorry.

[Longbow_UMD]

OK! Whatever you say sir!

When I think I have something interesting/helpful to say I'll make sure not to. Seeing as you have all the authority here. Over other people's guns, no less.

All right, maybe my gun doesn't outperform every other similarly-priced gun out there. I admit, I'm not a good judge of that. I've only fired 6 or so different types of paintball guns. So I guess I take that part back.

[Ramius]

Sorry if I offended anyone by that post, but slamming airsoft isn't something I take too well. Secondly, I do not see why paintball can't be considered a war reinactment. Tournaments aren't exactly big in Iowa, so we have to result to more warlike senarios in order to keep games interesting. It is impossible to say there aren't snipers in paintball, because there are. Any competent person with patience and good judgement is capable of being a sniper. My phantom happens to be accurate enough for such roles. If you are playing in a tourny against angels and cockers, i wouldn't say sniping would be a good idea either, but it is an option.

Sorry about disrupting the sensitive chain of command in these forums. Apparently my freedom of speech is limited to whom I am talking to, correct?

[Magadeth]

Originally posted by Ebonclaw
He's right Snip. There must be a ton out there. Terrorists make 'em to get past metal detectors. Govt makes 'em cuz they're lightweight, cheap, and if made of the proper plastic, durable. Not to mentioan you don't have the water hassle you have with metal. There ARE plastic guns out there.

Ehhh! Wrong! There is only one completly plastic gun. It is a two shot derringer used by intelligence angencys and is unavailable for civilian purchase. Most of the time when people refer to plastic guns they are refering tothe glock line of pistols or the Walther P99. These guns use composite materials in the frame, but still retain a steel barrel and action and WILL set off a metal detector. The whole 'plastic gun' controversy was perpetrated by the antigunners out there in an attempt to ban an entire class of handguns. They almost suceeded, but when the facts came out during congressional hearings on the matter, it became appearent how far they had their heads shoved up their Azzes. the damage that they did though is still widely believed(see above quoted post) but is entirely innacurate.

[mutt382]

haha.....im gonna have to go with pr0kch0p on this one......guns like that give paintball a bad image.....im sure there are airsoft message boards and im sure all the "army d00ds" would all be happy to answer your questions about "realistic combat".......*snore*:rolleyes:

[Magadeth]

who cares about image! If you all want to dress up in clown suits because you are afraid of Rosy O'donell and her million mutt marchers then you are just gutless wimps. If on the other hand you own a jersey because it is comfortable and you like the look then good for you.

I'm sick of the cowardly PC comformist movement in paintball. You all should grow some nuts and stand up for what you like rather than allowing people who have no understanding of it and do not care to, to dictate how your sport developes.

And why do you always feel the need to be insulting to people who enjoy playing the sport in a non-tournement environment. As paintballers we should all stick together, no matter what type of game we play. Perhaps some of us dont like the nppl because of the rampant cheating, wiping and poor sportsmanship that is so widely reported. The tourney/speedball players on this board do nothing but confirm to me that this is the norm. (I am sure that some on this board are honorable and good sports, but they are a vocal minority)
Maybe if you did not jump all over the people who want to play differently than the way that you prefer, they might be more inclined to try a tournament.

[pr0kch0p]

megadeth: i kinda agree with you. i only play rec ball right now. nothing woods because i hate woods. but i need to clear some stuff up for you newbies out there:

there is no such thing as a sniper. there ARE back players. this is NOT a war game. its a sport. stop associating this with war, i dont like war, i dont like death. i dont support the military. i support playing sports, such as paintball. airsoft is NOT a sport, its an emulation of realistic military tactics. airsoft DOES train you to fire REAL weapons and DOES glamorize shooting people with REAL weapons.

also using markers disguised as weapons is NOT paintball. as i have stated before, paintball markers are sports equipment not weapon replicas. if you want a weapon replica play airsoft, they are actual 1:1 models with realistic weight and feel. you will simply enjoy it more.

[elTwitcho]

Originally posted by Magadeth


Ehhh! Wrong! There is only one completly plastic gun. It is a two shot derringer used by intelligence angencys and is unavailable for civilian purchase. Most of the time when people refer to plastic guns they are refering tothe glock line of pistols or the Walther P99. These guns use composite materials in the frame, but still retain a steel barrel and action and WILL set off a metal detector. The whole 'plastic gun' controversy was perpetrated by the antigunners out there in an attempt to ban an entire class of handguns. They almost suceeded, but when the facts came out during congressional hearings on the matter, it became appearent how far they had their heads shoved up their Azzes. the damage that they did though is still widely believed(see above quoted post) but is entirely innacurate.

There is actually a glock pistol made of ceramic and plastic that can get past airport metal detectors. Which is all fine and good until you realise that bullets, do not get past the detectors. So I guess that glock may serve as a really good club....

[albert]

Just wanted to show you guys Viper1357's PEC Master....

I think if you want your gun to look like the real thing go for it... There's nothing stopping you.. except if you get pulled over by a cop because they think its a real gun...

>>edit

this is not a "Viper1357 PEC Master" as originally stated... This is a PEC Master that is owned by user Viper1357

[AngrySloth]

Ok, I have to admit that is one sweet looking gun, but imagine what non-players would think when they saw it.

Hypothetical Situation: A kid has wanted to play paintball for a long time, but his mom won't let him because it's a "violent war game". The kid, after many months of begging, finally convinces hi mom it's not really violent at all. The mom thinks about it, discusses it with dad, etc. She finally reconsiders. "One time, and I'll watch to make sure it isn' turning you violent," she says. the kid is overjoyed and they head to the field. when they show up, they see a another guy with the above marker.

What is the mother gonna think? I'll tellwhat. She's going to take her kid home and not let him play because someone is using a "real" gun. I know this because I watched it happen at my field. A bunch of kids showed up for a birthday or whatever and everything was going great until a guy decked out in fatigues, a flak jacket, an army helmet, and a Viper M1 walked up to the counter. The mom rounded up the kids and said to one of them, "You're going to have to find something less violent to do for your birthday."

[elTwitcho]

If I saw that gun I'd immediately think "newbie" and intentionally gun for that guy. People who try and intimidate bug me, and I'll make sure he's the first to go each game

[Wuzup101]

That gun is a pretty sweet looking gun. I honestly wouldn't get anything custom made to resemble a gun, however if you can get one of those vipers for a good price go for it. That would make a totally kick *** senerio game marker. However if you really want to have some fun buy a phantom.... I want one so freekin bad... :)

[NeedForSpeed]

Ok what I'm looking at isn't a custom gun, and price is comparable to a good 'regular' pb gun.

If someone already has a negative view towards paintball (which is unfounded IMO) how would seeing, or not seeing for that matter, a realistic looking marker change their view?

Also why must we be so PC, "It must be called marker, reals bad" Don't get me wrong I'm not attacking anyone, just trying to see where your coming from.

[mutt382]

yea i agree with you mega and I there probaby is a place for replicas but not in "paintball", I hope people will make a clear distinction between the two. Unfortuanly the general public and the media cannot do so because they dont know the difference between a m16 that shoots paintballs and a spyder. I'm sorry no matter what you say will convince me that, that will not look bad to a person that has not played before or their parents.

I am not some gun hating hippie that gasps at the sight of a super soaker by any means, in fact i own a firearm BUT games that immulate war are drasticly different than paintball the sport. Games like airsoft are pretty much training for military buffs or wannabes, this is not always true but for the most part i believe it is. Paintball bottom line is a sport and mixing in realistic weapon replicas in play is just not a good mix. If you want to see paintball on espn alongside skateboarding, bmx, or any other "extreme sport" i suggest you don't play with a realistic weapon.