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spydermanxt
01-06-2004, 06:06 PM
im getting a standard impulse and the newer ones are capped at 20 bps...if i use an eggII will there be any chance of breaking paint (i hae fast fingers) if so how big of a chance?
Crick.
01-06-2004, 06:39 PM
okay let me see if i can do this in a way you will understand. Got it. This is how much of a chance you will have breaking paint:
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if you didnt get that, it means theres a big chance ....
*cough* halo (-) *cough* damn the flu season!
spydermanxt
01-06-2004, 06:44 PM
:(
toothpastedog
01-06-2004, 06:45 PM
you won't have much of a problem with your egg, but once i got used to the blade on my rat, it was very easy to out shoot my egg. just buy a haloB or vision.
spydermanxt
01-06-2004, 06:55 PM
ugh...either way thats another $100+
mondo_44
01-06-2004, 07:08 PM
So that means buy the halo. Ull never regret it.
cheese stix
01-06-2004, 07:53 PM
u got 2 choices get a halob or a eye... or well both
i_luv_strats
01-06-2004, 09:49 PM
eggs are bad luck, go for halo
holy crap cheese that avatar rules
Crick.
01-07-2004, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by cheese stix
... or well both
woot woot :)
wolverine
01-07-2004, 05:50 AM
The non-Vision Impulse is capped at 13Bps, so you will NOT chop with a EVO II, unless you have feed issues which often happen with the last couple balls.
HALO = Better to avoid chops, but can still happen with the last couple.
If your Imp is Vision ready (new Impulse) then get a WAS board when they are released in the next couple weeks.
Mooseless
01-07-2004, 11:16 AM
psh the halo is well, the best hopper ever. wolvy i thought Smart Parts capped the board to 20 bps after March 2003, i might be wrong but i have heard this from everyone.
wolverine
01-07-2004, 01:30 PM
Smart Parts released some non-Vision boards where the cap was 20, but chenged it back when too many people were having issues. There are not a lot of 20bps non-vision boards out there.
Anything new is almost guaranteed to be a 13bps board.
nos911
01-07-2004, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by wolverine
Smart Parts released some non-Vision boards where the cap was 20, but chenged it back when too many people were having issues. There are not a lot of 20bps non-vision boards out there.
Anything new is almost guaranteed to be a 13bps board.
What kind of problems were people having? I just got mine new and I'm almost positive it is capped at 20bps. I can outshoot my Reloader easily and it feeds around 13 so I'm pretty positive I have a 20bps board.
Mooseless
01-07-2004, 01:37 PM
yeah thats what i was getting my point at as well. its really easy to outshoot my hopper.
wolverine
01-07-2004, 05:10 PM
People were out shooting revy's and did not know why.
Unless you are shooting over a chorono that measures BPS accurately, you are only guessing that you are shooting more than 13bps and that your reloader is feeding that fast.
Bycrosoft
01-07-2004, 05:52 PM
Umm wolvy, i just got a brand SPANKIN (yes spanking) new impy for christmas, and i can outshoot my evo with brand new batts, i know its not capped at 13.7 (or whatever) because i (and maybe u) can tell when its over 13.7 (or whatever)
toothpastedog
01-07-2004, 05:59 PM
by out shooting, do you mean you skip shots, or do you mean you chop or what? i used to have a evoII with my rat and it had a hard time with 13bps sometimes (i do admit that had an early production model though). it could be your evoII is just screwed up.
Bycrosoft
01-07-2004, 06:01 PM
nah, me and my friend both have evos (his is clear mine is black, big diffrence lol ;)) and i put his on mine (becuase i was thinkin the same) and sure enough, chops and skips!
Fresh batteries too
toothpastedog
01-07-2004, 06:02 PM
interesting.
Im confused, ive always heard that they are capped at 20. Ive told so many people here that in my day....
nos911
01-08-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by sIc
Im confused, ive always heard that they are capped at 20. Ive told so many people here that in my day....
And I was one of the ones that listened.:| But it's ok.
I have done the same thing that Bycrosoft was talking about. I have been walking it and it chops like mad and skips.
Bycrosoft
01-08-2004, 02:00 PM
Anybody got a halo they can throw my way for free ;)
xX[Empire]Xx
01-08-2004, 02:15 PM
the manual says its capped at 13.7 bps. i've outshot my reloader multiple times, but thats when i was trying.
impyshmimpy
01-08-2004, 02:29 PM
me and my friend were just trying to test our trigger fingers so..... i filled my egg with paint and shot at a tree. we had a stop watch and were timing ourselves. i emptyed it in about 11.5 secs. if there were about 175 pballs in my hopper i shot an average of 15.217 bps. and i have a 2k3 impulse. so wouldnt that mean that it is capped over 13?
toothpastedog
01-08-2004, 02:53 PM
for sure vision is capped at twenty
Wolvy had it right to start with.....
This is straight from the Smart Parts online manual for the 2002 and newer vision boards....
Rate of Fire
The new Impulse has two default fire rates that cannot be adjusted:
Vision Eye Off: 13.7 shots per second
Vision Eye On: 20 shots per second
So to answer your question....
It's not really a matter of whether or not you will chop since eventually it will hapen. It's a matter of how often. It won't be quite as bad as Crick may have led you to believe.
The Evlution II can keep up with 13.7 bps... as long as the gun and hopper are upright.
The Evlution II won't be able to keep up with 20 BPS.... not that very many people can actually shoot that fast. Plus that is with the eye on, so you will be less likely to chop, thanks to the eye.
Bycrosoft
01-09-2004, 12:01 PM
I can rip 17.8 bps on my friends angel speed!
whoo lol
toothpastedog
01-09-2004, 08:53 PM
we're all very proud of you...
cheese stix
01-09-2004, 09:08 PM
if you do get a halo u can get it cheap at topgeek.com
Anti-Flagger
01-10-2004, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by wolverine
Smart Parts released some non-Vision boards where the cap was 20, but chenged it back when too many people were having issues. There are not a lot of 20bps non-vision boards out there.
Anything new is almost guaranteed to be a 13bps board.
my nasty is capped at teh 20 non vision and vision....
AMGMASTER1
01-10-2004, 03:46 PM
to settle this i bought an impy last week the guy even told me after march capped at 20 all vision and non
Primary Marker:
2k3 Black Smart Parts Impulse
Progressive barrel (stock)
68/3000 Nitro duck
Richochet 2k
Rase Tank cover
Smart Parts Black Stickies
Physco Ballistics Bullet Drop w/on/off
Soon to come:
Freak System w/AA front
Vision (maybe)
Selling:
Discontinued Spyder AMG Classic Blue :) Barely Used w/stock barrel w/sightrail and front coupling- 160
Stock 03 Green PT Extreme Barely Used with box and everything - 65
Nine Volt Revy Clear with modified propeller - 20
20 and 9 ounce CO2 Package - 20
Scott Hotshot Thermal Goggles - 15
PMI 2 Pod Harness w/2 100 round pods - 10
32 Degrees Olive Green Jersey w/cut off sleves - 5
Basic 200 round hopper black - 2
Send me a PM if u are interested in any of this then we can arange shipping and payment methods
toothpastedog
01-10-2004, 06:41 PM
you could have gotton an impulse that still had a 20pbs board, did you test the board?, and the guy who told you might not know as much as dr j and wolverine.
impyshmimpy
01-11-2004, 07:56 AM
fo sho'
pulse ate'm
01-11-2004, 09:28 AM
All of the new eggs are rated for 20 bps, is this not true?
and you can buy the z board to go 22 bps, are these ratings
not accurate or what?:confused:
toothpastedog
01-11-2004, 10:16 AM
they can shoot, only in bursts, for a max of 22bps. if you can shoot a consistant 20 or so bps you might have problems.
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