Pirahna Pro EXT anygood??

[lefty]

don't know the gerneration but i think its a g3
need to know upgrades before i buy it
i know i need barrel but what else??

i'm coming form a stock pumpgun. so i need something solid that won't break and something i can upgrade.

also i need to know which googles and tanks are solid and whether to run co2, air, or nitro?

also which gun you recomend over this bad boy??

[BlindSeaman]

googles

lol:o I can't really help you out with any piranah stuff but, my favorite goggles by far are the Vforce Morph.

[PiranhaPro]

Hey seamen, I didnt know you posted on PBR. Nice avatar!:)

Anyway, the EXT PRO is not worth the money. Buy a Piranha VTL and upgrade from there. You will save a lot of money this way.

My favorite goggles are the JT Spectra series. They have good view, are very comfy and you can find the pro shield version for about 40 bucks. Make sure you get a thermal lense.

Check my Faq for info on upgrades.

[Nitro]

i love my pro ext. selling it to buy a pro e though when it comes out though lol.

im using the raven java goggles right now, there pretty good, except that the 1.0 lenses are sh*t, make sure you get a nivus-1 2.0, they have the new thermal dual pane polycabanate lenses and there suppose to be the baddest sob out there.

what to run off of? i say its not worth it to buy co2, becasue then you gotta buy a anti spyhion and thats what like 30-40 with co2 tank, for about double that($80) you can get a 48ci n2 tank

[codeman026]

i have one and i like it right now i am looking to sell it to get an electro though

[Dermen]

I woudnt buy a VTL if you plan on making it the same as the EXT and that is what most people do. It is more expensive that way.

Pro EXT $230

VTL $90
turbo valve $10
low pressure chamber $30
Flush Cocking $35
Vertical Feed $70
PE Regulator $50

Its cheaper to buy a Pro EXT even if you are going to replace the reg because then you can sell it.

[Hsuve]

VTL - $90
Turbo valve - $25
Gladiator regulator - $70
CP barrel - $35
Bottemline with macrolines - $20

For $10 more, you get a much better gun... :)

[Dermen]

Most people who are looking at the Pro EXT want all the available things for their gun. If they bought them all seperatly then it would cost alot. Most people who would buy a gun and modify it to be low pressure would want a vertical feed at least. Which would make it $80 more why not get the other extras too. You could even buy the CP barrel and it would still be cheaper. You also left out the part about having to modify the gun for better air flow. Why do you think the VTL setup is so much better? Because it has a Gladiator reg? And where are you getting turbo valves for $25? I have seen them for $6 online.

[Hsuve]

G3 VTLs come with a vertical feed, though I would much rather have a powerfeed, as the PMI vertical feeds are low rises... Hmmmm... Just about everywhere I've seen turbo valves online for $20-$25. I was just bored and picked the high price. :) Modifying gun for better air flow? I came under the impression that all G3 Piranhas came with higher flowing vertical adapters, and the such. It's still just slightly more expensive, and much better as well. The CP barrel is much better than the stock barrel, Gladiators are by far higher flowing than Pure Energy regulators. The only thing you don't get with going with the VTL is the drop forward. You can buy a PMI drop forward for $30... I see no point in spending a little bit less, but getting a lot less for it... If you have the money, get the VTL and upgrade from there. You'll still get a better gun for just a slight bit more.

[Dermen]

I have only seen VTLs with powerfeeds. G3 BLs come with verticals. I think the G3s do come with the higher flowing asa but I think they still have the filters which ristrict air flow. And the VTL and BL dont come with a LP chamber. People will pick their barrels for the best paint match not just because it is a good barrel. Lots of people use PE regs. They might not be as high flowing as alot of regs but they are still good regs. If you got a higher flowing reg you would be able to have a little lower psi but what you are searching for is the most consistent pressure not the lowest. And I forgot about the PMI drop.

[BlindSeaman]

People will pick their barrels for the best paint match not just because it is a good barrel.

Actually most people don't go for the best paint match even though they should. Plus 85% (random %:D) of the barrels made come in a at ~.689 bore size, which coincidentally is also the size which most paints are made to fit. Therefore, unless you want a barrel kit your best bet will be to go with a .689 bore barrel. Thus there are lots of brands to choose from. so bore size won't necessarily determine which one you get.

[Hsuve]

Originally posted by Dermen
I have only seen VTLs with powerfeeds. G3 BLs come with verticals. I think the G3s do come with the higher flowing asa but I think they still have the filters which ristrict air flow. And the VTL and BL dont come with a LP chamber. People will pick their barrels for the best paint match not just because it is a good barrel. Lots of people use PE regs. They might not be as high flowing as alot of regs but they are still good regs. If you got a higher flowing reg you would be able to have a little lower psi but what you are searching for is the most consistent pressure not the lowest. And I forgot about the PMI drop.
Nope, I've seen VTLs with vertical feeds. Filters? Knock 'em out. :) The VTL and BL Piranhas actually do come with low pressure chambers. A good paint match is important, yes, but a well made barrel is also essential for accuracy. Stock barrels have never been great for these so-called "low-end" guns. Not only will higher flow grant you to lower your pressure a little bit, but shootdown is much less likely with a higher flowing regulator than a low flowing regulator. It's only $20 more as well... Gladiators are also very consistent regulators, talk to owners with them on their gun...

[Dermen]

The VTL and BL Piranhas actully dont come with low pressure chambers. It has a thing that looks like one but it isnt one. I have a BL and it isnt a low pressure chamber. It is a plug so that you dont have to buy a new asa to put on a lp chamber. I went and looked at VTL Piranhas on the web and nobody has VF VTLs for sale. Also there is not one on this site to be reviewed. The VTLs are G2s they didnt make a G3.

Its all depends on what you want when you buy your marker. Ill I was pointing out is that the Pro EXT will give you more accessories for your money. Alot of people think PE regs have such bad shootdown. If they did why would so many people use them. So Lefty it all depends on if you would upgrade your VTL with the things the Pro EXT comes with. Also if you can get air that would be better than co2. You can run co2 but if you do you should get an anti syphon tank.

[Hsuve]

Have you ever looked at the Piranha ads in paintball magazines? It clearly shows vertical feed VTLs for sale. Check the PMI website as well, I'm sure they do too. Big whup, VTLs don't have low pressure chambers then. They don't really do much, and if you want them, pay like $10 for one... Actually, the VTL with upgrades adds up to just slightly more than the EXT, and will shoot more consistently and accurately than a stock EXT. I haven't seen very many Pure Energy regulators on guns other than some 'Cockers, and Piranhas. I, personally, think it's a poor choice, as you can get an Air America Vigilante for the price. People buy them because they're cheap, not because they're really all that good. Only a few web sites have Vigilantes for $50, which is why a lot of people skip the Vigilantes and go for the Pure Energy regulators. Gladiators are far better, ask the users again, and they're only $20 more... Which one would you rather have...?