Will this gun be good ?

[Nautica King]

ok iam gonna be soon be getting a new pb gun and i need to know if this gun will be good cuz a person told me that he has this and it kicks *** so here it is and if it works i will put pics of the parts :laugh: :laugh: ok first it will start off wit a spyder compact i ithkn u all know wut it looks like but here ya go i hope it shows up :P ok i think i only can post a one pic at a time so i will do that :):eyes: ok .... here r the rest of the parts , a warp feed , hyper frame , turbo vavle , tubulance rear cocking , warped sportz cradle and a smarts parts tear drop barrel.

[Nautica King]

barrel

[Nautica King]

here it is

[Nautica King]

here ya go

[Nautica King]

iam tired :sleep:

[Nautica King]

here is da king !!!! ta ta ta hyper frame !!!

[Nautica King]

o well i dont feel like looking for pics so i also need to know if a good place that does really good paint jobs and wut is a ventry bolt ?

[ThreeDollrBill]

Don't upgrade the compact. Just use it how it comes because it would be wasting money upgrading that beginner gun. I have it and am getting a shutter and then a Impulse so i am not adding anything fancy on it.

[Saiyan_warrior]

Sounds like a nice setup, but do you need all those upgrades right away? I would just get the barrel for now and get use to it and then upgrade, but If you havent learn more about each and every product you plan on buying.

The turbo valve wont do jack diddly unless your planning on getting a low pressure setup, but everything else you listedn will serve its purpose :)

[WicxOr]

oes anyone know a site where I would be able to get Spyder Offset to Straight Adapter block / Drop Foward Adapter. I have the Kapp Drop Zone 2 drop. Just looking for a adapter so it can work with my Spyder stock frame.

[BlindSeaman]

Definetly Get a revvy, a reg, and maybe HPA then go for the other stuff.

ThreeDollrBill- There is NO difference in performance between a compact and a shutter, besides the reg on the shutter. Which, isn't worth the extra money you would be paying to either buy a shutter over a compact or to upgrade from a compact to a shutter.

[Hsuve]

Originally posted by ThreeDollrBill
Don't upgrade the compact. Just use it how it comes because it would be wasting money upgrading that beginner gun. I have it and am getting a shutter and then a Impulse so i am not adding anything fancy on it.
How is it a waste? Just explain that much to me... :)

[davkad]

why the hell are you looking at all the super upgrades like Warp Feed!
from the way you descibe things, and the way you seem, i am guessing that you are not a very experinced paintball player!
the upgrades you should get are in descending order
1) barrel
|2) revvy
|2) expansion chamber or gas thru grip (any type of foregrip)
3) HPA, any type of cheap n2 tank

don't waste your money on things like warp feed, or making it electro. that's just stupid. go with the basic upgrades. like seaman says, when you are done upgrading the barrel, hopper, and air system, the more additions you make are more expensive, and you notice the difference in performance less and less.

[Hsuve]

The Warp Feed is not a waste. I, personally, have one, and it works very well. Lower profile is actually very noticable after you use it even just once. If you get one, I'm sure you'll like yours like I do mine. :) Going electronic is not a bad idea either. You can definitely fire much faster than before. 10BPS should be no problem, and you don't need to strain to up the ROF. The pull on the Hyperframe is very short and soft as well.

[Nautica King]

hey davkad ok first off ive been playin for a year but never owned a gun and also iam askin peps for ideas so it can be a good gun and also a very experianced player told me about this gun and how to upgrade it so it can kick ur 2 cent *** . so go take ur little paintball gun and shove it up ur smart *** o and thanks evrybody for helping o and blindseaman it looks like ur smart and maybe if u could help me make a diffrent gun like if u no anything about tippmans ?

[Nautica King]

hey if somebody knows alot about paintball can u put up sumtin wit a tippman or spyder gun that will make the gun really good i mean the full list of parts

[KoRnMaN]

Man obvisly half the people don't know what there talking about. You need a warp feed to shoot the hyper frame on 13bps with out chopping you need a 12-volt to keep up to the warp feed and the hyper frame you need a reg and a turbo valve and lp chamber with nitro to atleast some what go lp to keep up with the hyper frame so the gun doesnt freeze up and not have enough gas. I have one of the most tricked out spyders (Hsuve knows:)) and I played a team that shot dark angels and they said they would shoot my spyder in a tourny anyday so dont come here to waste people dreams and idea's if you do then dont come here.

[Hsuve]

Actually, the Hyperframe can shoot fine at 13BPS with a 12 volt Revolution and the powerfeed. Last time when I played, I let a guy use my Spyder (I was using my new Bushmaster ;)), and it shot accurately and quickly. He only broke a ball once, and that was because the screws came loose and so the striker wouldn't catch onto the sear. You don't need a regulator, LPC, or turbo valve for the Hyperframe to work fine. In fact, a regulator will restrict gas, which is why getting high flowing parts is essential to a LP setup. Nitrogen isn't required either, but I will highly recommend it. A guy with an Impulse, bottemline Max-Flo, and anti-siphoned CO2 tank shot quickly with it, but his hose got cold really quickly. Just to show the effects of CO2 and fast firing. I would have to say to those that think that the Warp Feed really sucks either truly doesn't like it, and have used it, or have never used one in a game...

[KoRnMaN]

Hsuve you didnt get want I ment. The faster you shoot the higher air flow you need and I have shot mine on 12bps with out a warp feed and it was a blender so whatever the guy you borrowed your gun to probably wasn't shooting fast at all.

[BlindSeaman]

Korn- the faster you shoot does not necessarily mean you need more air flow. If you have an air source with a decent recharge rate you will be fine. Angels, I beleive, run stock at around 600psi, that isn't exactly lp and they achieve a HROF with zero problems.

[KoRnMaN]

YOU THINK HUH? so if you put a microline on gun with a tank with a fast rechage rate its going to work? Probably wont get to many shots off intill it goes into burst mode. If you dont know what a angel lp setting is for sure dont say anything.:)

[BlindSeaman]

Anyways, I just checked and the recommended pressure going into a mini reg is 600psi (I knew I have seen 600psi+angel put together somewhere), the actual pressure going into the gun is 450psi.

A new example is an e-mag, its recommended input pressure is 800psi.

And I quote from the AGD website itself:
Lower pressures tend to create rapid-fire velocity drop off.

[KoRnMaN]

Ok:) I thought you were talking about low pressure? cause in a mag I have it says angels shoot at 80psi or somewheres around that?

[BlindSeaman]

ok, I have no idea what you just said.:) How about we stop spamming Nautica King's post though ok?:o

[KoRnMaN]

a ok hsuve were done.:) So whatever you reply I probably won't look at it.

[Nautica King]

:mad: awwww man dont stop spaming i was enjoying it was like a story that keeps u reading :D and i was kinda learning

[MOOSEontheLoose]

Alright Listen dude.
I am not saying that you dont know anything but arent good at paintball, but You are making an investment.

A booyahh or hyperframe isnt something u buy on a spyder. Its something u put on your spyder after using it for a while, because u want better performance but you dont want to trash ur whole investment. You are talking about putting a 50 dollar barrel on a 100 dollar gun. Then whatever the 50 dollar valve is. 200 dollar frame, 200 dollar feed system. You have got to be kidding me. That is almost 600 bucks! AHHAHA, just look around and see what u can buy for 600 bucks. U could get a mag with nitro and if warpfeed and lo profile is what u want, u could get that too, all for the same price.

If you are gonna spend so much money upgrading a gun FOR THE LOVE OF GOD START WITH A GOOD GUN!!!!

Im me m0ssman1l
we can chat

[Hsuve]

I agree. If you have the money, start with something "better." Kinda saves you money... However, if you don't have the money all at one time, I would recommend upgrading your Spyder. If you get a 'Mag, be careful with what you do though, I'm sure that makes a huge difference in accuracy. I have used a Z-Body RT 'Mag, and it shot real well through a Boomstick, but after using a standard 'Mag shooting with an AA barrel, shots curved like no other... Yes, the barrel was clean, and it was Diablo paint. I really don't get how an eLCD or Hyperframe is not something you'd want to put onto a Spyder... I did, and it's great. The pull's a bit softer than on my Bushy, and just slightly more responsive than my Bushy as well. :( What's wrong with spending $200 on a $100 gun? All it does is make it top notch. :P To make a 'Cocker top notch, you could be spending much more... Replacing the pneumatics, replacing the trigger frame (If you get the straightfeed 'Cocker), replacing the barrel, replacing the regulator, replacing the valve, and perhaps a few other things, I'm not sure... If you start with a base Spyder Compact 2000, you could replace the stock barrel, stock valve, get a regulator, a drop forward, hose kit, and if you go the money saving way, it'll be cheaper than a 'Cocker. :) Spend more if you like though, some parts may be better than others (Pure Energy reg v. PPS Stabalizer :D).

[Ice]

TL plus would work. i got a compact and like the tl plus more with the rear cocking and quick disconnect pin. Just put on a pyshco ballistics x-core x-chamber and a pyshco ballistic drop forward. dye sticky grips and a terminator barrel.( little more accurate and quiter then smart parts tear drop).12volt revy and new bolt.you got a nice setup. put on whatever kind of trigger you want though i think its a waste with batterys and just more stuff to break inless playing tourneys or something like that. :drop: