Better With a pump?

[smegle5]

i noticed this with my friends

the kids who started with pumps are....
1. mor accurate
2. use less paint
3. smarter

but those who started with semi's
1. shoot way way to much
2. are stupid


is it a general that people who started with pumps are better, or do i live in freaksville?

[pEnNyWiSdOm225]

Originally posted by smegle5
i noticed this with my friends

the kids who started with pumps are....
1. mor accurate
2. use less paint
3. smarter

but those who started with semi's
1. shoot way way to much
2. are stupid


is it a general that people who started with pumps are better, or do i live in freaksville?


This thread will start a flame war fast..... I started with a Semi, but i don't shoot too much nor am I stupid....

[Kingman27]

Originally posted by pEnNyWiSdOm225



This thread will start a flame war fast..... I started with a Semi, but i don't shoot too much nor am I stupid.... me too..I even started with an electro frame..I dont waste paint,and I am not stupid...(at least I think :P)

[bdaniel08]

i started with a good 'ole Talon, and I'm not that good at aiming:eyes:

[RainTreeBoy]

People just say that they help you improve faster as a player because you have to learn to aim better (since everytime you re-cock, you loose you aiming) and you learn to conserve paint. I dont know about the smarter thing, i dont see how your intellegence would depend on what gun you have.

[Plython]

Complete utter bullpoo and a generalization, contributing to more prejudism is this hell hole we call the world.

I don't think that these are really that accurate, you could start with a pump, and still suck as bad as some one who started with a semi.

Pumps >=< Semis

With a semi you lose the pressure of insecurties that make you feel less of a player (especially with approprite apparel) therefore you perform as much, if not more so, as a pump/stock class player. If you start with a pump you have the one shot pop sydrome and therefore will not go through as much paint, thereotically, but the atomic weight of gold is more than helium so what do I know?

[Sam#27]

I started with the tippmann pump gun, and it was hard keeping up but i know it made me a better player. I am the best player out of the kids i play with besides LAMANTEthePBguy, he started with a semi though. And having started with a pump i can see how it makes you a smarter player, because instead of staying in one spot and unloading on someone it tought me to move around and eliminate with only a few shots.
I know starting with a pump put me at an advantage, but you cannot say people who started with semis are stupid because all of the kids i played with did and only about 2/10 of them are stupid and they are stupid outside of paintball ne ways.

[XtraBoy]

Originally posted by smegle5
i noticed this with my friends

the kids who started with pumps are....
1. mor accurate
2. use less paint
3. smarter

but those who started with semi's
1. shoot way way to much
2. are stupid


is it a general that people who started with pumps are better, or do i live in freaksville?

Lol, that was funny just because it was sooo blunt...

(+1 post for me!)

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

wow you guys are taking the "+1 post count" thing too far. I doubt this thread will get closed for a while.

Paintball has a lot to do with your intelligence. Its not that hard to figure out, as long as you have half a brain. With that said, i think that the less intelligent people may be what you are talking about. They just dont get it.

I started with a semi. I also started in the woods. I didnt really shoot too much more than somone with a pump. I didnt really have the chance to. I can see how it would help somone who is used to a semi, then plays pump to hone his skills,, but i dont think it would give you too much advantage as a starting gun.

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

People that start with pumps don't learn to conserve paint at all. It's just physically impossible to waste a hopper in any amount of time. People with pumps just have to be more sure of what they are shooting. Then again I always did that and I started off with a semi. It depends on how good the player is, not what they started off with.

[SilentButDeadly]

I started with a BE saber. So i guess that means im more accurate, and not stupid. Hmmmm it all starts to make sense now....:dodgy:

[Blacksheep]

The woods...I know for fact that this is true. Half of these guys (not any one group in particular) will sit back and trade paint out of an 8 + 1 harness from 45m out where chances of a hit are neglible and the chances of a break ar 50/50 at best. One or two players can hold up 150 or more as seen at the Tippmann World Challenge.

As a mainly pump player. I generally fair 10x better using a pump or a gun with a small hopper that handicaps me and forces me to move instead of trading paint. I can play well with 200-rounds, but over time, discipline will take a hit and my playing level will drop as I naturally realize that I can be lazy and still win.

[MrTiggleBitties]

Originally posted by pEnNyWiSdOm225



This thread will start a flame war fast..... I started with a Semi, but i don't shoot too much nor am I stupid....

[XtraBoy]

I didnt feel like saying much in my first post, so i will say it now


Pumps:
Yes, it tends to be that the stock class player is more accurate and possibly all around a better player. Are they smarter? Not really, any one can be just as smart as anyone else, they just have to educate themselves

Semi:
Again, yes, these players tend to shoot more paint than necessary, but is that normal? i would say not since pro teams shoot tons and tons of paint during tourneys. These guys also tend to have better firing skills than aiming skills, they're looking for the quantity over quality effect, where stockers are differnt.

I myself, if i get to play today (Grounded...) am going to only fill my hopper with 40 balls or so, since im low on cash and i figure it'd be good for my aiming and what not.

Nearly any one person can be as good as any other person... Paintball doesnt have to do anything with size, height, or how many sneaker deals you got, unlike other sports, paintball's main contributor is skill... A stocker can easily eliminate a semi, and vice versa, with enough skill of course.

[paintballer42o]

Originally posted by smegle5
i noticed this with my friends

the kids who started with pumps are....
1. mor accurate
2. use less paint
3. smarter

but those who started with semi's
1. shoot way way to much
2. are stupid


is it a general that people who started with pumps are better, or do i live in freaksville?
no i dont shoot way too much
im not stupid

and you DO live in freaksville

people who use pumps know how to use them.

[Ebonclaw]

I started semi and switched to shooting a Phantom SC for a while.....I improved my game...but when I switched back to semi....I didn't act like I was playing with a semi, I thought I was still using a pump and my gmae suffered because I didn't use my firepower to its full advantage for a while.
But when I remembered I was weilding a 15 BPS beast, I started doing MUCH better.

[smegle5]

ok soo i see that my friends are just stupid, ok thanx, that helps

another question,

how about people that have a previous gun history, are they any better starting at paintball then a person that has never shot a gun befor?

it seeems logical to me....

[Blue Baller]

I started off with a pump, shoot a custom cocker now, and guess what: I spray and pray, and am stupid. So blarrgh.

[Ebonclaw]

Playing pump against semis will improve your game. Even if you didn't start with one, weilding a Phantom for a while will give you a good advantage when you pick up a semi.....assuming you don't continue playing pump style with a semi.

[CosMoKramer71]

i played pump with a Phantom, its Highly Over rated!

[the other one]

i started with a slow, discontinued gun.

and i still use my 4bps against my tourney friends. haha.:laugh:

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

Originally posted by smegle5
ok soo i see that my friends are just stupid, ok thanx, that helps

another question,

how about people that have a previous gun history, are they any better starting at paintball then a person that has never shot a gun befor?

it seeems logical to me.... From my experience no. SOmtimes you take the knowledge of real uns you have and try to apply it to to marker, which wont work. I never really shot too many real guns before i played, and i turned out pretty decent.

[the other one]

Originally posted by LAMANTEthePBguy
From my experience no. SOmtimes you take the knowledge of real uns you have and try to apply it to to marker, which wont work. I never really shot too many real guns before i played, and i turned out pretty decent.

well, im a competitve shooter, and i guess it would help a little bit, but only in the shooting aspect. but the positions are so different, that you won't notice a big difference.

Kinda funny-- i shoot my standing position a certain way because of my paintball position. haha. so i guess paintball affected my riflery more than the other way around.

(i've probably shot almost as much rounds out of a rifle as i have in this last year's paintballing)

[smegle5]

either you dont shoot alot at paintball, or you shoot a whol lot at the range.

[Blacksheep]

Depending on how many paintballs you shoot, that could be quite a bit...

I shoot from kneeling as standard if possible.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by CosMoKramer71
i played pump with a Phantom, its Highly Over rated!

Um, no.

Pump play is the best kind of play. I love my angel, but I love my phantom even more.

There's a reason I use it as my main backup marker. Even for speedball.

[Crime Dog]

I disagree with the last poster. It may be SOMEWHAT overrated, but NOT highly overrated.

I started as a semi player. I've since "reverted" to playing stock class (except in speedball/tourneyball.) I use a Phantom VSC, and a PGP.

Last weekend, I took out 2 shockers, a Matrix, a Timmy or two, and who knows what else. That was using my PGP solely. What allowed me to do that? A change in style of play. A Stock Class player HAS to make their shot count. That means we have to move to get the best possible position constantly. You have to figure out the best time TO move. You have to figure out where to move TO. And you have to use your teammates to provide you cover fire at times to get to that spot you want.

Playing stock class has taught me how to work with teammates better. It's taught me to move. It's taught me to slow down and make my shots count.

Overall, it just forces you to THINK more if you want to stay in the game, and make eliminations.

Does it mean ALL SC/Pump players are overall better players? No. That'd be a generalzation. But I'd challenge anyone to switch to SC play for awhile, and see if it doesn't help improve your game a bit.

That being said, I LOVE playing Stock Class.

[El Kabong]

I'm with Crime Dog. Playing pump does really make you a smarter player. But this definitely doesn't mean playing semi doesn't make smart players out of most either. It's just that in pump play, and especially with stock class, you seriously have to improvise to make up for your lack of firepower. So the key to survival is to put a lot of thought into all your shots and maneuvers so you won't end up toe-to-toe with a semi, where your opponent would have the huge advantage. So you have to think ahead about strategy if you don't want to suck at pump. But with the extra BPS of a semi or electro, some people take strategy for granted and just fling strings left and right. However, most semi and electro toters still know what they're doing and play just as well as any good pumper, just less methodically. It's just two different styles of play once you get down to it.

[Infiltrator]

Police and the military both have a history of gun experience but I don't see any improvement. They usually stay inside their bunkers without looking out too long.