Motorized R/C

[Cx Threepio]

I just got another weird but possible Idea.
I want to make a motorized, Remote Controlled Paintball gun. Keep in mind this won't be for hauling around, it'll be something I put in one place and control from A distance.

First, you all know that small electronic motors simply spin around really fast. I have two of these wired into a remote control car circuit board. You hit the levers on the remote and they spin. One will turn it side to side for aiming. The other will spin around and hit the trigger somehow.

I will use one, possibly two Brass Eagle Marauder's with better barrels, or Spyders in the 80$ price range of some sort.
All I am really modding on the gun will be the trigger(s). This is what I need help with, How can I make the rotation of the motor make the trigger pull back?
I have it all worked out up to this. I don't even care if it ends up being a ball blender. I just want to make it to say I did it.
Thanks for your help on this.

[Spinach]

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jhtml?id=0005765223017a&navAction=jump&navCount=0&indexId=&podId=0005765&catalogCode=ID&parentId=&parentType=&rid=&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fitem-link.jhtml.1_A&_DAV=search&hasJS=true

Just put the motor instead of the crank.

[Cx Threepio]

Thanks, I may do that if I can't think of anything else to use. Anybody got any other ideas?

[ollgeeze]

no you want to put a cam on the spindle of the motor and when the motor spins it will hit the trigger, however unless you get a low reving motor (or gear it down) the rpm of the motor will surpass the bps of the marker and you will over fire, causing breakages, hmmm.
i have a five channel rc plane remote controll if your interested? you would then only need one controll to operate the whole thing!? it would operate using normall car servos but you would need to buy a reciever cus i dont have one.
pm me if your interested or if you want to ask about anything cus i used to be into nitro (methane) cars so i know a fair bit about that sort of thing.

[Cx Threepio]

Are you talking about the small electric motors im going to use? like the ones found in toy RC cars. I already have the remote and circuit boards for everything. I took the parts from an old RC car to use.

[pbpi]

i've actually thought of doing this before, with the marker on a remote control car and then using the stuff from another remote control car to fire it... At that point I had designed it out using either one of teh things that is on the link to cabela's or one that i would make on essentially the same basis.... I also had the motor geared down so it wouldn't go faster than the marker could fire... if you were to use the two markers i would recommend running a rod from the motor across two of the little trigger things, but get them so that they fire in succession, one and then the other, by offsetting them halfway through their firing cycle..... if you want it to work well you would probably want to build a mechanical hopper of some kind also, and using the other motor from the car to adjust elevation would probably be necessary..... if you didn't put it on another car as a platform you would probably also need to put it on a swivel with another motor to direct wintage..... hope that helped.......

[Cx Threepio]

Wow man... thats exactly what my New Design was going to be like. I drew up a new design the other day that sits on a nitro RC car, 2 paintball guns linked the same way you said, that cabelas crank with a motor for the trigger, and an electric motor connected to an arm to lift the front end of the gun up and down. If the whole thing isn''t very expensive, I'll hook up a camera to the front.
I'm having a friend of my brothers help me out with the Car parts and Remote, so I'll hopefully get it done when I get some cash.

[Vectrexx]

DID YOU SAY R/C.. LMAO HERE

http://adamis.hypermart.net/tank/DSCF0001.jpg
http://adamis.hypermart.net/tank/DSCF0004.jpg

[Cx Threepio]

Yeah, something like that

[unknownpsycho]

It would be so much easier to use electronic triggers. That way instead of using a motor to pull the trigger, you could just put a electronic switch in the trigger's wiring and save alot of time trying to make an offset cam to pull the triggers.

[Cx Threepio]

Good idea, bu I think I'll just use one of those cranks from cabelas and link the triggers together.

[waytocoool]

I strongly doubt that the R/C car idea will work. yes it is possible but you would have to get a really, really, powerful car and then 1 or 2 really light guns. I tried using a video camera once on a R/C car and it wouldn't even move over carpet with the Camera on it. This wasn't a bad one either! You would probably need to make a custom car yourself so that it would have a nice motor and stuff. Good luck and if you get this post some pics. By the way the turret idea sounds like it would work though if you could figure out the remote.

EDIT: Did you mean just use the motor of the R/C car not have a driving car with Paintball guns on it? If so i was talking about a driving R/C car...Sorry about that....

[Cx Threepio]

Did you use an Electronic or gas powered RC car?
And yeah, i was planning on mounting it on a car, but if it isn't strong enough i'd make a turrent to mount somewhere on the field.

[JoeSmo122]

Ok.... maybe you guys are talking about like Wall-Mart RC cars because i have an electric RC car that could haul a marker up a hill...

For an effective turret, you would need a motor for horizontal and one for vertical movement. The motors that would be needed are in the $20-$50 range. A server (used in RC cars) could be used to fire an electric tirgger (a normal trigger would require too much pressure).

You would need a camera on the turret otherwis it would be almost useless at aiming. If u really wanted this to be useful, you would be looking at probly close to $500+ for it all...

[Cx Threepio]

I was thinking more on the lines of Nitro RC cars.
Care to try taping your marker to your electric R/c car? If your Rc car is powerful enough to pull at least one marker, a 4 or 9 oz co2 tank, and a battery pack with a small camera, I may buy an electric one like yours to use. It might be alot cheaper to use.
For the price, i estmated around 600$ for a Nitro car, and thats why I'd have to wait for this summer so I can get a job.

[schoolsukz08]

I say you get a E-Maxx and use the servo for the 2-speed shifter and use that to fire the gun. Cause with the E-Maxx you get crazy torque and enough suspension to hold it up. Check out the E-Maxx at www.towerhobbies.com. They will have every thing you need there. BTW the E-maxx is made by Traxxas.

[igotu]

OK this is really easy expozy or if you dont want permant duct tape your (toy) motor not on of thos frickin racing motors to the triger guard so the gear (thats just on the motor or if theres not thats ok) in front of the the trigger. than just atach something to one side of the gear or metal dowel that comes out of the motor. Now when the motor spins each rotation it will hit the trigger. i would putall and thing to odd on the motor so you dont scracth up your triger.

[Combatcm]

Are you familiar with servo's? Mod one to spin 360 degrees and mount it to the side. Buy a 1/4 scale aircraft servo to tip it up and down and an electric turntable to turn it. Don't forget a mini camera on it. Wait, I have all that stuff.

http://community.webshots.com/album/92309475jKNQjg

The stingray is powered by the servo running on a 9v battery. It shoots about 6bps.

I just though how cool it would be to have a nitro engine power the trigger. Imagine what it would sound like shooting.

[igotu]

Ya i know what servos are but there much slower than a electric motor would be and plus this guy dosnt have servos. They'd just be a waist of money for a slower shooting speed.

[Cx Threepio]

Do you think that the E-maxx has enough power to carry its own weight plus around 10 pounds for the rest of the markers and such?

[schoolsukz08]

Originally posted by Cx Threepio
Do you think that the E-maxx has enough power to carry its own weight plus around 10 pounds for the rest of the markers and such?

I am pretty sure it will be able to, because the two motors that are on it have insane amounts of torque.

[Cx Threepio]

K. Also, I drew up some designs on paint. I'll get them up tonight. I'm going to start building the markers and their setup, then I'll mount it on the E-maxx when I have enough cash to buy it.

Here are the designs. This first one is sort of how it should look from the side.
http://www.angelfire.com/fang/rockymountaincustoms/Diagram2.html
This is the top view of the markers, and a few of the setups (like the trigger assembly)
http://www.angelfire.com/fang/rockymountaincustoms/Diagram1.html

[schoolsukz08]

Links don't work.

[Cx Threepio]

It cut off the address...
Ill get them loaded up later when I have some time.

[Scheiser Koft]

Click here to see diagram 1 (http://www.angelfire.com/fang/rockymountaincustoms/diagram1.html)

Click here to seediagram 2 (http://www.angelfire.com/fang/rockymountaincustoms/diagram2.html)

Hope those work!

EDIT: THey dont work.

But this should!

The R/C project! (http://www.angelfire.com/fang/rockymountaincustoms/ProjectRC.html)

[MaxLax44]

Are things like these even legal on most fields?

If your going to be using it on rough terrain maybe you should get a remote controlled tank. They go slow but who cares, they have treads and can carry alot probobly.

Also when you get the car you should probobly take most of the plastic off the top and stuff then do something like make a pexyglass box around it with a little hole for the barrel to protect the gun, car, and especially the camera cause that will pretty much kill the whole thing. Also if you did the plexyglass thing you should make the box on a swivel with the gun and camera.

And as for the camera i don't know about you but there is a spy and espionage outlet store(for those of you who don't know an outlet store is where things are sold for really cheap) like 15 minutes from my house and i checked it out one time. I wanted to get one just to go piss off drivers on a main road:D. They have systems for things exactly like this that are high quality which come with a long ranged camera thats extremely small and light and a tiny TV that must be like 4-6 inches for just $60-$100.

And get some pics up once its done, sounds cool and im with you all the way on this pbpi.

[MaxLax44]

when ya getting pics up common i wanna see

[f2f4]

Originally posted by MaxLax44
when ya getting pics up common i wanna see ...You just bought up a 5 month-old thread... why?
In all seriousness, he probably gave up some time ago. :|

[bdaniel08]

haha.... yes, it'd be fun to make one, and play around with it. But, in all probability it won't work. It just doesn't have the maneverability that a human has.

[Psycho_warden]

Originally posted by schoolsukz08
I say you get a E-Maxx and use the servo for the 2-speed shifter and use that to fire the gun. Cause with the E-Maxx you get crazy torque and enough suspension to hold it up. Check out the E-Maxx at www.towerhobbies.com. They will have every thing you need there. BTW the E-maxx is made by Traxxas.

If you want real power, you would get a clodd buster or the USA truck, which comes in electro. Draxxus also makes a much cheaper one, its not 4wd but it is a lot cheaper. as for the trigger pull, try gettina a string around the moter and fix it in place, and mount it on the back of the trigger frame and secure it to the trigger. If it is powerful enough, it will pull it back, and then have a reverse setting to turn it back.

[Santaclaus]

Don't go crying though when someone plays soccer, or runs it over in a tank or hellcat ;)

[EVILDaddy07]

If u het this done send me an e-mail or private message me i want to see som pics.

[Snowman282]

sounds like fun

[vicious666]

I made a turret once. (I wasmega bored) I took the tri pod from a old camera then I used gas R/C coponents and the servos for an R/C airlane to put it in motion. I used the servo used to turn the wheels and bolted a steel plate to it and then I attached the gun to the plate where the asa would usualy be. It worked alright except it had no up and down aiming and side to side was only like 45 degrees of turning radius. The gun was a pirahna GTI

[Adamsmasher23]

If anyone wanted to do this, I could tell them the exact details. Rather than trying to rig up a complicated system to pull a mech trigger, simply buy a cheap electro, such as the dragunfire compact, simply hook up a 555 timer and relay to the wires of the microswitch, and you would have a full auto marker. Have the wires going into the motor go into the 555 timer instead, and the turret would be remote controlled. You could even change the speed of the marker to whatever you wanted.

[thecustomizer]

looks good but make sure you center the gravity.. if its to heavy n it hits a bump, i can tip over and thats not good