Paint to bore.

[chibissj]

Everyone these days is doing wierd things at the field...instead of having a larger bore they are using smaller bore (barrels that is). I.e using big balls (.690) in a .686 bore size. My thought on this is that it pinches the paint and would create inconsistency's. However...they swear by it.

Thoughts?

[Jaster]

Round hole, square peg.....:eyes:

Simple math one would think. A .690 ball won't fit in a .686 barrel. I would think they would break a lot of paint in that scenario. IMO, they're wanking your chain, they don't know the real size of their paint/barrel, or they simply don't know what they're talking about.

[Helmut]

I would think it would pinch too, but does paint to bore match matter? It is a debate.

[Jaster]

Yes but the argument in the paint/barrel match would go the other way....larger barrel/smaller paint.

[chibissj]

they aren't yankin my chain. The field uses big ball. They all have .686 barrels.

[hybrid-sniper]

well a tighter fit would create some more consistency, and maybe accuracy with the ball going straight through with no bouncing off the sides as it may be with a large barrel to small paint.
just like how Dye backs come in .688 now if you were to use .690 paint it would shoot fine, with only a slighted increase in chops.

if they're shooting paint to big for their barrels then whoop dee do, at least you'll be laughing when they're swabbing out their barrels in the middle of a game.
note: bigball has a relativly thick shell which may be the deciding factor, like i can use afterburners (i needed paint and fast so last resort) afterburners which are like a .692 paint or close to it, and i was shooting very straight, about as straight as i've ever seen after burner go, even with using a large bore barrel that fit it nicely.

tighter seal on the ball = less moving in barrel = straighter trajectory
thats my poor logic:)

[yakitori]

try it and see. It isnt that pricy of an experiment. if it doesnt work that great then its no big deal. I, from personal testimony, would lean toward a closer bore to ball match than .690 and .686 bore. Big ball is fairly inexpensive, so it couldnt hurt to try. Also, on another note, when I used bigball paint I had bouncing problems. They didnt break int he barrel, they just bounced off the target....a lot. coudve just been the batch I got though. Anyone have this happen w/ big ball.

[kraftwerk]

the more brittle the paint, the less likely it's going to squeeze through that barrel... you're also going to get wild velocity fluctuations because of the increased drag within the barrel. I tried putting Viper Venom (huge .695 crap) through my .690 Phantom barrel and was getting 220-280 velocities and breaking in the barrel.

[chibissj]

hmm I have big ball actually. I personally hate it. I've got a small bore barrel and a large. It seems to be better in a looser fit. Like a .691.

[DaSpEcSter]

I shot a case of it last year and it was awesome...:eek:
but then I shot another case and it sucked:(

[chibissj]

Originally posted by DaSpEcSter
I shot a case of it last year and it was awesome...:eek:
but then I shot another case and it sucked:(


Yes. It's very inconsistent in the way it's packaged. I've shot 2 cases of it(the field has it) and they almost always suck.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Its not a debate, and I doubt its true. If your paint is bigger than your barrel, you won't get better consistancy (how do you even figure?) you sure as hell won't get better accuracy. But I can assure you on one thing, you will get more barrel breaks. If I use paint with my barrel thats .001-.002 I know it because I get barrel breaks like crazy, thats why the match either needs to be perfect or the barrel a little bigger. Those people are stupid, either their barrels aren't .686 or the paint isn't .690.

[DirtMcgirt]

Originally posted by chibissj
Everyone these days is doing wierd things at the field...instead of having a larger bore they are using smaller bore (barrels that is). I.e using big balls (.690) in a .686 bore size. My thought on this is that it pinches the paint and would create inconsistency's. However...they swear by it.

Thoughts?


they're idiots. Like i've said a dozen times before. i've done a test. as long as the bore size of the barrel is greater than or equal to the size of the paint, bore size will not change your accuracy.

however, if the barrel is smaller than the paint, than yes, obviously you will have breaks.