TES trigger switch mod

[808BOWL]

I modded my switch so its super light now, I cant compare it to the 50g IS switch cause i never tried it but my mod turned out great. Im not responsible if you mess your switch up. Don't try if your unsure of your modding abilities. This is how I did it.
~parts are VERY fragile handle with care~
1)remove trigger switch from frame.
2)gently open up switch casing by pulling tabs(green side)
3)take out the wiring w/connectors(prongs), spring, and little copper piece (remember how and where everything goes back)
4)cut the hook and 1 round off the spring and reform the hook with needle nose pliers and stretch a little bit
5)put back together and test out, if still to stiff cut the hook and form another one. Test it out and repeat cutting if needed.
I cut about 2 rounds on mine stretched it and get about 5+bps more. Only bad thing was when i lost the spring and searched for 30 minutes only to find it stuck on my shorts. Not a hard mod to do just gotta be careful of all the parts.

[macfights]

there is a mod close to your on pbnation... if you do screw up your stock switch, go to radio shack and buy a new one... the stock number is 275-016

[808BOWL]

yeah its just like Bodger's mod except i used the switch from my TES. I couldn't remember who was the one I read how to do this mod but i remembered it was Bodger, thanx man

[worldtraveler]

808 HELP!
Heh, I have only one problem. After opening the switch casing and cutting a couple of loops off of the spring, I apparently didn't pay enough attention to the way things were placed. Can you help me get this back together? PLEASE!

[808BOWL]

heres a pic of the insides hope this helps if not let me know

[worldtraveler]

You're a lifesaver, right after I posted, I went to radioshack for one of their miniswitches. After looking at it, I replaced that spring in my original switch casing and put it back together. Superlight trigger pull now. Thanks a million. You kick *** Bowl

[808BOWL]

no prob....... now you can rip 15bps easily just make sure your hopper can keep up. screw on your tank and hit the back of your tank, if your gun goes off then your trigger is to light and can be dangerous.

[worldtraveler]

Originally posted by 808BOWL
no prob....... now you can rip 15bps easily just make sure your hopper can keep up. screw on your tank and hit the back of your tank, if your gun goes off then your trigger is to light and can be dangerous.

Oh ok, so that's one way to tell eh? I'll do that, I sure don't want to accidently nail myself in the goods while I'm sliding into a bunker, heh

[big0jig0]

I just did this mod to my TES and my friends imagine, and both own so bad now. Its like, idk but it is so fast. It took me like an hour on both but mainly on mine because it was the first one. Then an hour on his because it was different and i had to get the pins out of the trigger frame.

[pistol_sniper]

woot woot, mod completed, so much easier to fire fast now, thanks bowl

[Chinese Fish]

Why don't you just buy a 50g switch frorm radioshack and switch it out?

[pistol_sniper]

because then you would have to go to radioshack, buy a switch then change it. With this one, you don't have to go to radioshack and you also don't have to do any soldering.

[freehand]

ok i just got a tes, i am interested in doing this, what happens if i mess up?
what are the damge possibilites?

[808BOWL]

if you mess up goto radio shack and get a new switch. replace your overstretched/broken spring with the radio shack spring for a solderless fix. another way to lighen trigger is to slightly bend the top prong (the one that isn't used) inwards to make a smaller travel space. if you do both types of trigger mods you'll end up with one mean bouncin' machine. to check for bounce gas up your gun and smack the back of the tank, if it goes off your probably gonna bounce. the most common problem is an overstretched spring so be very careful. use a lighter or candle to quickly heat the spring, stretch it then dunk in water. to much heat on the spring will permanently warp it.

[freehand]

ok, what do you mean by smacking my tank?a nad what will go off?


if i've never done anything like this should i try doing it?
what are the chances of ruining my gun?

[808BOWL]

after you mod your switch gas up your gun with NO paint in it. now give the bottom/end of your tank a bump with your fist or "spank your tank". if your gun dry fires you will have trigger bounce. there is a very very small chance of ruining your gun by doing this. hope this helps

[freehand]

so with a halo b what would you say the max bps i could get with this is?

[pierc]

depend how fast u can shoot.. but with this mod u should be able to go 14+ bps.. i can

[freehand]

ok, is this a "double action" trigger mod?

i am entering the Houston Rookie League at the end of the month and they don't allow guns that fir anything more than 1 ball per trigger pull,

[808BOWL]

no not at all. all this mod does is lighten your trigger pull alot, so much that it is possible to get bounce. that is why I say to check for bounce by "the smack your tank method".

[freehand]

i did the mod, and i must say you're a god,

also.....

i cut 3 instead of two and i also bent the piece of metal that the little copper pieces touches to fire the gun,
i can shake my gun without eye's on and it will fire like mad,

what can i do to stop this?


also, is there a way i can make my trigger closer to the little sear button?

so it will be super easy to walk?

[808BOWL]

to reduce boounce try the magnet mod.
ok heres a link to all the mods
TES and ONE mods (http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=505854)
to adjust your trigger play take off your frame and on the very top of the trigger is an adjustment screw.

[aloooooex]

take pics as u do it

[cowtipp3r]

http://www.pyr8.1accesshost.com/products.html

$13 shipped for either a 25g or 50 g switch.......pre wired!!

[freehand]

i decided to open my switch back up,
i cut 2 more rings off of my spring and accidently over stretched it,
i squished it all back together with pliers then slowly pulled each coil out.
now, my t.e.s. is AWESOME i've not onyl outshot my egg but i'm pretty sure on the auto mode i can hit over 18 bps,

[freehand]

i ruined my switch!!!!
ahhhH!!!!
i can easily rip 17+ bps on it but.....
if i even take a step while holding my gun it fires.
it's got a way too sensitive bounce!

[808BOWL]

I did the same to one of my switches. thats why I bought a couple extra and have them all set at different weights.

[freehand]

i bought two from radio shack.
i ended up using my old one, i just squished it together a lil more,
but it's really stiff feeling now...

[cowtipp3r]

Originally posted by freehand
i bought two from radio shack.
i ended up using my old one, i just squished it together a lil more,
but it's really stiff feeling now...

just go here (scroll down)

Trigger Switchs $13 (http://www.pyr8.1accesshost.com/products.html)

U can get 50g and 25g switches for $13 shipped, thats what i got. REcommend to get the 50g, cuz the 25g is WAY!!!!! to light, but thats juut imo

[freehand]

hey, i jsut got a spyder fenix, i opened it up and it has the same switch as the t.e.s.
but....
it has these wierd pins locking it in.
they look kinda like screws with the heads cut off...

help me if you can, maybe i should post in the spyder foru,

[z0n3d0u7]

Take the grip panel's off of the frame, Set it on the edge of a table / bench. Take a small nail, and a hammer, and smack it out. To get it back in, Put it in the hole, then hit it till it's about tight with the hammer.

[wakeupandbord]

In the middle of doing this mod I randomly tried to turn my gun on forgetting that there was NO BATTERY in it, lol, but the LCD actually turned on for about 12 seconds and I could change the mode to Auto 20 a try to shoot it and then turn it off before the LCD faded away. WTF!, Is my gun posessed?

I just finished doing the mod and I shot my gun for a bit then I stopped and turned it off and the number I ended up on was 666, no lie!! umm i think my gun is posessed, im gunna go read the bible or something, bye!

[p8nter24]

i did it to my gun and a spring mod to reduce debounce and i rip on it. I would try it to a radio shack one see if you like it. but 18 (wow) thats pretty friggen fast.

i dont know

actualy try it.

its up to you

[wakeupandbord]

Just finished, it took me like 30 min, but I ran into a few problems. Now that It's all together I noticed the trigger pull is way too light but im too lazy to take it apart and do it all over again. Another project for another day.

Will this work on spyders too? Im guessing their microswitch looks almost the same, right?

[wakeupandbord]

p8nter24, thanks

I'm gunna try to make a video soon to show people how fast I can shoot cuz nobody believes me, but after this mod I can shoot even faster, I gotta wait for my z-board for my eggy to ship so I have a hopper that will keep up with my gun, cuz with the old eggy board I could outshoot it and its capable of 17bps.

[freehand]

yes this works on spyders, i did it to my spyder fenix, it is the exact same thing, the only prob is, you do have to tap out the pins...

[wakeupandbord]

No offense but why do u have a halo on ur TES when u prolly cant even outshoot an egg or u could just buy z board for the egg then u wont be able to outshoot it, they halo is so much heavier and more expensive for the speed that you wont even be using

[freehand]

i am getting a dm4 at the end of the year,

[p8nter24]

yeah, i have a halo and i like it...........hmph

:cyclops:

[freehand]

another thing is, the egg is cheap, ugly and un even in weight, at least the halo is even and low profile,

[wakeupandbord]

I think they are around the same size, so the profile is about the same, I would rather use an egg because of the weight difference and price, but if i needed the extra bps i would buy a z-board and if i needed even more bps i would prolly end up buying a halo

[z0n3d0u7]

When both full of paint, the Halo B, and the EggII weight pretty much the same. whoever told you the Halo's heavier is just to wimpy to carry around maybe an extra 1/2 oz. im not sure on the exact weight difference's, but someone on PBNation.com weighed both of them, with different kind of battery's in each, and both full, and empty, and there isnt enought weight difference to cry about.

And the reason your gun still turned on while you had your battery out, is because it store's energy. Any electronic does. It would be a good idea everytime you take your battery off, to turn your gun on, and fire it. so that energy is gone, and if you accidently touch the frame of the gun, you wont fry your board.

As for him having a Halo on his TES, It's all preference. You jealous? Seem's like it. no matter if he can outshoot it or not, it dont matter. i thought the point in buying faster feeding loader's was so you DONT out shoot it?!

You sure think you'r a know it all, and in the same sentance hand out wrong info. Please get off your high horse, and go do some study's on thing's you want to educate people about. Cause honestly, since i started accually reading the dragun board's 10 minute's ago, i've seen atleast 7-8 post's from you, downing someone else with info that's tottaly not correct.

[z0n3d0u7]

Yeah, You cut the spring. You'r only supposed to stretch it a TINY bit. I've heard of people cutting loop's, but it's usually just to fix the switch cause they over stretched it. What's happening is the spring is to tight, so when it get's past a certain point, it's putting too much pressure, and wont let it return, or Vise versa.

[wakeupandbord]

Can I make a suggestion to your mod?

It's a lot easier to just stretch the spring out a little bit instead of cutting it and reforming a new hook.
I've already done this mod for my gun and a few friends guns and this method seems to work best and saves a lot of time especially if you dont have any small tools.

[freehand]

my turn, time to rain poo on wakeupandbord, i cut 4 full loops off my spring, not one prob, i used two pairs of needle nose to reform a hook, then i grabbed it from each side with the pliers and stretched it,
that! my friend is the freakin reason why i got a halo, i can outshoot my egg now without even trying,
so untill you know all the facts, untill you know you're right, untill you figure out if you're going ot hurt the persons feelings, don't open ur damn freakin mouth got it?


Peace out,
aiyup

[wakeupandbord]

Time to rain poo on you,
Im picking up my dogs own land mines and throwing them back over the fence towards you! I got all my facts, looks like u dont, and u never proved me wrong you just told me you went out of your way and cut the spring when all you had to do was stretch it a little bit, but most people that overstretch it go on to step 2 and then cut it if they have to.

Sorry i tried to help you and make a suggestion to make doing a trigger mod easier.

[freehand]

4)cut the hook and 1 round off the spring and reform the hook with needle nose pliers and stretch a little bit

[wakeupandbord]

Just cuz someone wrote step #4 doesn't mean it's true or even has to be done to finish the mod. I was trying to help and make the job faster and easier.

Wait a minute I just realized something, I'm fighting on the internet and this fight is WAY to intense for me I think im developing an ulcer because of it, I just can't handle it, I stand down to u

[freehand]

sry man,
i'm just sick of people flaming at me, ever since i came here people just yell at me, all the time!
whatever happend to people being willing to help other people, this has becoem a big prob on the net, all the forums and chats have become walls for flamers graffiti.

and when people flame, other people tend to flame back,
sry man, you're way prolly works, but i know mine does too.

[wakeupandbord]

Yea im lazy and take shortcuts, im just trying to help u to be lazy too.

[freehand]

lazy is good...

[mariners02]

could i do this on an excellerator 6.0 switch

[freehand]

if it's a switch at all like the link on the first page that tells aroubt the radio shack switch yes,

[plugy]

how do you take it out? i was trying to today but then there was not enough slack or something like that so i couldn't move it very far....any suggestions?

[wakeupandbord]

what kind of gun, dragun or spyder? on my dragun i pulled the switch out through the hole on top of the tigger frame where the trigger is, that seemed to work but it's very tight pulling it through so be careful not to pull any wires out of their solder, but if worst comes to worst you can just resolder it

[plugy]

its a dragun...and yeah like i said i didn't want to pull it out to far....cuz i didn't wanna snap anything off or wat not..

[EVILDaddy07]

mine wont do that so ill jus buy a lighter swith in the near future and i dont have to make special trip seein that my brother-in-law is the manager of the one near me so i basically get it for free and he can give it to me that next time he comes over which is almost every other day.