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bigmic024
10-11-2001, 12:03 PM
Would this gun be alright for a newbie to get? I want a gun that is good so i don't ever have to gun a whole new gun to upgrade and only minor upgrades for the gun.
AutocockerFreak
10-11-2001, 12:27 PM
Get a Spyder xtra and a good barrel
Ebonclaw
10-11-2001, 01:06 PM
Naw....that Flash looks pretty tight. I'd go for the Flash. I wish I'd waited and bought a Flash instead of my Shutter....but the Shutter performs great..
VeNoM
10-11-2001, 02:04 PM
ya i think the flash looks sweet, i would get it if i were looking for a good starter gun. . . just add a new barrel and maybe a nitro tank and reg in the future and that would be sweet!
bigmic024
10-11-2001, 02:07 PM
I won't need to run nitrogen will i if i get this gun? Does anyone know the date its gunna come out? What are some off the features, everything it says a kingmanusa makes no sense to me
Wuzup101
10-11-2001, 02:13 PM
No you wouldn't need to run nitro through the gun...although it wouldn't be a bad idea for those cold winters you guys got up there. But just think of it as an upgrade for the future...you don't need it right away. I would look around for a used reg such as the stock WGP cocker reg or a palmer stabalizer they are great on co2. You should be able to find a used WGP for the same or less than an xchamber and it will give you better results. The flash is a nice looking gun and with the ESP frame you should get some insane rates of fire!

PS...I like the blue one! :)
bigmic024
10-11-2001, 02:37 PM
yeah the blue one is definetly hot. and r u sure i don't need nitro because some guy in another forum is telling me i could really mess up my gun if i don't use it.
VeNoM
10-11-2001, 03:18 PM
its the same as any other spyder, it just has an e-grip, its does not NEED HPA but it would be much better for it, although it will run just as good as any other spyder on co2
bigmic024
10-11-2001, 04:06 PM
uh Whats an e-grip? (i'm a newbie can u tell)
VeNoM
10-11-2001, 04:08 PM
electronic grip frame, the trigger is going to be similar to something like a mouse click, very short, allowing you to shoot very fast . . .
BlindSeaman
10-11-2001, 05:54 PM
I would wait and see how people like the ESP frame first before you decide to get a gun with one on it. For all we know it could feel like complete ****.
bigmic024
10-12-2001, 12:34 PM
Does anyone know of any sites on the net where u can order the gun yet? I found it at paintballgear but i can't order it yet.
CRASHKING
10-12-2001, 12:47 PM
you can only pre order now i know a site that has them for $300
bigmic024
10-13-2001, 06:51 AM
Well what is the site?
CRASHKING
10-13-2001, 03:43 PM
for the flash it is
http://shop.paintballarmory.com/itemdesc.asp?CartId=3609344XSLWW57&ic=FLASHB

for the deluxe esp frame it is
http://shop.paintballarmory.com/itemdesc.asp?CartId=3609344XSLWW57&ic=ESPD


they only have five of each so hurry up and order
VeNoM
10-13-2001, 03:49 PM
dood 224.95 is WAY OVER PRICED!!! (for the frame) go to www.paintballgarage.com or just wait, because they are going to be much cheaper than that, and you will be kickin yourslef in the pants if you apy that much for it
bigmic024
10-14-2001, 09:53 AM
Yeah but that includes free shipping i think. I think i will order from that site on tues. and i will hopefully have the gun for sunday.
CRASHKING
10-14-2001, 02:38 PM
nobody gets the frame till late october. and the free shipping is overnight shipping on orders over $30 and they are very quick on shipping the item