Omen Better than..

[Flog Monster]

And Impulse..

Me (who owns a Impy and a AutoCocker) And Incube who owns an Omen put our guns to the test. And Sadly The omen one.

So congratulations.....Jerks...:(

My Impy set up its...
A vision with vood bolt, evil valve, Blade trigger Egg2 and freak barrel.

Omen Stock with Adjusted trigger...and revvy...

We did Accuracy from 50 feet. The omen Had very tight patterning and didn't break a ball. I had a miss feed and the ball was swollen for un knowreasons and got jammed then broke a ball. So i retssted and had close patterns..almost the same..with the Freak.

Then we just ripped 100 balls each on each gun. The omen emptied faster then the impulse when we both tryed them..on bot occasions the impulse took about 4 seconds more to empty.

So i guess thats saying something..Now go brag to ipy owners

EDIT:Wrong forum..sorry someone move it to the Evil one for me please...?!?! if you can do that

[Calebd2]

You do understand that if you did not have mounts for this test, it makes it totally ineffective. There are also many other factors involved...

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

Thanks for doing another test with no constants. They make them totally meaningless:tup:

I am not saying this because I have an impulse. If it was proven worse I'd accept the fact, but the test is flawed.

[plushdragon]

The problem is that both guns use two diffent means of anti chop systems.The Omen uses a cam feed not a break beam system.Because of this there never any delay when the omen users rips strings of shots.The impy or break beam systems that uses eyes will have a very very small delay to let the gun fire. Over a long string of shots it might finaly add up to one or two sec in over all speed.

[VeNoM]

I thought Vision was a reflective eye (not a break beam) :eyes: ... and I have seen omen cam feeds just break paint in an attempt to feed and do not work ... Obviously, some do, but I don't like the idea...

[Jeffo2448]

:eyes: I say retest.....

[firekow]

The omen emptied itself faster? Wouldn't that be thanks to incube's quick fingers?

[Sicksilver]

Originally posted by firekow
The omen emptied itself faster? Wouldn't that be thanks to incube's quick fingers?
Yeah but he said that they both shot each gun...

Meaning..so i think

Incube Shot the IMPY and The Omen each with 100 balls
And
Flog Monster shot the Omen and the Impy.

and when Incube shot the impy the omen was still faster...and when Flog shot the omen it was faster..that would be the only sorta accurate way. Tho i dissagree with the testing methods. But it gives ya an idea on the anti chop systems i supose?

[Blacksheep]

Were they both using the same barrel?

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by Calebd2
You do understand that if you did not have mounts for this test, it makes it totally ineffective. There are also many other factors involved... Yes.

Shut up, Impys on Omens. It's true, just accept that you bought a cheaper substitute.

Jerk. Haha. :sleep:

[teufelhunden]

hahahahahaha, right.

Any Impulse is greater than a renamed Piranha.

Either of those markers will be very consistent. If you're using the same barrel (like you said, the Freak- you should've used the same insert in both guns too, not just the same size, the same physical insert) and the same paint, in a vice and under the same wind conditions, they'll shoot the same...

[Sicksilver]

Originally posted by teufelhunden
hahahahahaha, right.

Any Impulse is greater than a renamed Piranha.


How is it a Piranha? U wont even be able to relate the two give it your best shot

[Jeezer]

Isnt the Omen closed bolt? And I think I recall hearing the pirahna being OPEN bolt, theres your difference right there.

[Blacksheep]

http://www.evil-paintball.com/OmenManual.pdf

Page 10 and 11, from what I can tell, it looks like a blowback with some re-worked springs and parts. Maintains the basic hammer, bolt, and valve assembly. Air goes into the valve via a gas-thru bolt, a sear releases the hammer and it strikes the valve and it is forced open and the air goes into the bolt and fires the ball, not sure about the actual cocking system though.

[teufelhunden]

As Blacksheep said, it's got the same basic internals. They reworked a few things to make it closed bolt and added cam feed plus an electric frame.

There ya go.

[camoman5000]

Ya, in the end its just a phishy on crack. Its a pretty good attempt of a gun I thought, but overpriced and too many kinks need to be worked out in it.

That wasn't even an experiment, and really wouldn't prove anything in the first place...

[BlueDragonDH]

I cant believe you guys. Blowbacks arent bad markers. yes electros have less kick buy design but barely the classic timmy used a sear and no ram so it was blowback still a great marker. I'm just saying just because a marker is a blowback dosent mean its bad. Suprbugmans pride could probably kill some other high end markers

[Blacksheep]

Originally posted by BlueDragonDH
I cant believe you guys. Blowbacks arent bad markers. yes electros have less kick buy design but barely the classic timmy used a sear and no ram so it was blowback still a great marker. I'm just saying just because a marker is a blowback dosent mean its bad. Suprbugmans pride could probably kill some other high end markers

But how many high-level teams use blowbacks? Not many, two that are prominant (Bad Company and Tippmann Effect). Right or wrong, kids see Angels and Timmies and suddenly, blowbacks are newbie guns. Toss in the fact that all rentals I've come across are blowbacks, and there ya go. Right or wrong, doesn't matter.

[teufelhunden]

Originally posted by BlueDragonDH
I cant believe you guys. Blowbacks arent bad markers. yes electros have less kick buy design but barely the classic timmy used a sear and no ram so it was blowback still a great marker. I'm just saying just because a marker is a blowback dosent mean its bad. Suprbugmans pride could probably kill some other high end markers

You're right, they aren't. But there's better.

And propping up a Spyder like suprbugman's doesn't help the case of the STBB. It's a one-off, a custom design with lots of time and effort put into it, as well as money. Would've more than likely been cheaper to buy a true high end marker than spend the --time-- and money on taking a Spyder into one.