Convince me...

[ps2baller]

I don't know if I should get an impulse or an Omen
I've used two types of impulses, both of wich didn't have any eyes.
One chopped while the other one didn't.
I've never used an omen but iv'e read plenty of reviews that all say that it's a good marker so buy.

Both guns are in the $450 area so price can't be an issue


Should I get an evil omen or an impulse???:confused:

[cocker kid 2k2]

Why should anybody convince you to get an Imp. You've had 2 you know how they perform. Go shoot an omen and don't bother people with stuff like this. Considering its obvious that people will say impulse anyways.

[wanabe TOSA]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2
Why should anybody convince you to get an Imp. You've had 2 you know how they perform. Go shoot an omen and don't bother people with stuff like this. Considering its obvious that people will say impulse anyways.

ah come on man - give him a break

ok well i got an impulse an my friends got an omen...and at first i liked his omen alot more...
but the truth is that he has to adjust it an fix like every time he plays...an its confusing as hell
an its hella unbalenced an kinda ocward to hold - where as the impulse is extreemly comfertable an very well weighted.....get the impulse - trust me ..... the only reason id get the omen is cuz the trigger is kinda nice...but it can be solved w/ a 20$ magno trigger

dont get an omen cus it looks cool bein an autococker an all

but ya it is impossible to chop with the omen strait outa the box stock - where as its not with the impulse but other than that, the impulse is a way better gun in the long run

an if ur gona upgrade ur omen ur prolly gona get the new board for it to increase ur bps an da vison increases ur bps too an if ur gona upgrade ur gun you'd end up gettin that anyways


hope that made sense -peace-

[02BlkImp]

The owner of the field that I ref at checked with his supplier about carrying the Omens in the shop, and the supplier said that he had sold about 15 since they came out and 11 came back broken. I would definitely go Imp

[wanabe TOSA]

Originally posted by 02BlkImp
The owner of the field that I ref at checked with his supplier about carrying the Omens in the shop, and the supplier said that he had sold about 15 since they came out and 11 came back broken. I would definitely go Imp

yup an thats proof for ya...

that goes for all autocockers to....jus for the record

[Imagine stinks]

from what ive heard (reading review on omens.. maybe you should too) most everyone who gets an omen has to send it back twice and then it works.

[teufelhunden]

Originally posted by wanabe TOSA

that goes for all autocockers to....jus for the record


hahahahaahahahahaha.

you obviously have never seen one, let alone used one. Anybody with 4/9ths of a functioning brain can keep one nice and working, with the same minimal work as you'd put into a Spyder.

[Beatmanias]

We don't need to convince you because if you are not convinced yourself, you're making the wrong choice already.

[Canadia_PBaller]

Originally posted by teufelhunden



hahahahaahahahahaha.

you obviously have never seen one, let alone used one. Anybody with 4/9ths of a functioning brain can keep one nice and working, with the same minimal work as you'd put into a Spyder.

So true, most people don't know how to time their cocker, so when something goes loose or the timing goes a bit off they don't know how to fix it, and think it's broken. Cockers=easy matinence markers.

[xX[Empire]Xx]

dont have us choose for u. u have already shot 2 impys and u cant decide whether to get 1? what did u like about it and what didnt u like about it?

[wanabe TOSA]

Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller


So true, most people don't know how to time their cocker, so when something goes loose or the timing goes a bit off they don't know how to fix it, and think it's broken. Cockers=easy matinence markers.

wtf are u talkin about - both of u are gettin me hella pissed right now, sayin that i dont know anything an have 4/9 of a brain...in fact if u were standing right next to me now id kick both of ur lil computer nerd's as$es you :censored:

basically what u said canada is exactly what im talkin about - why the hell would i want to have to keep up with timming it an fixin all those moving parts....my friend has an omen an it always has to be re set again an he did once have to send it back to be fixed after 3 differrrrrent air smiths didnt kno what was wrong wit it

o an being as easy to maintain as a spyder? r u some kinda :censored: :censored:

my god - some people

[Canadia_PBaller]

If you can turn on your computer, and type that sorry excuse on how autocockers are high-matinence, you can time an autococker. The only time you usually have to re-time your marker is if you get a new 3-way, or trigger etc, and if you get it installed by a professinal he can usually re-time it for you anyway.


And I would seriously like to see you try to take me, and teufelhunden on at the same time.....:rolleyes:

[wanabe TOSA]

ok first off i dont think they would be portrayed as a high matenice gun by many many people if they werent...and no im not following the crowd on this - i have personal expereance

autocockers have an extreem amount of moving parts in which are all very confusing to understand unless you've owned one for quit some time so tell me how that isnt high mateince when with my impulse i only need to wipe down my bolt an clean the seloniod ever 10,000 shots or somthin like that - an ive underrstood impulses scince the day i got mine

"autocockers are as easy to maintain as spyders"
i swear that quote should be put in the newby quote thread.

[Canadia_PBaller]

Originally posted by wanabe TOSA
"autocockers are as easy to maintain as spyders"

I owned a Pirahana (Spyder, Pirahna whatever) and a Pirahna or Spyder is almsot no matinence whatsoever, so I agree with you on that one wanabe. But I still believe Autocockers are low-matinence markers.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Cockers aren't as easy as spyders to maintain, simply because they have the same parts + about 3 times more. Saying that they are and being all E-cool isn't going to help anybody, especially somebody who knows jack about cockers and thinks he can maintain it perfectly just because a couple guys on the forums said so.

Its not like its common sense to anybody, if it has a 3 way leak, not everybody knows how to fix it, not everybody knows how to sweetspot a reg, not everybody knows how to prevent it from chopping, not everybody knows how to get it to flat out shoot when its broken, not everybody can replace a cup seal, not everybody can adjust a trigger, not everybody can maintain a cocker. Its not hard to learn, but its deffinatly not a gas it up and go marker. I've seen far too many cockers need adjustment before playing, and half of the time the owners didn't even doing anything to it, just parts coming loose, and if you don't know what to fix, how will you fix it?

[TheMexican]

Originally posted by wanabe TOSA
that goes for all autocockers to....jus for the record You obviously dont know what the hell youre talking about when it comes to Autocockers. Take your time, read up, and cockers are unbelievably easy. Dont talk out of your rear.

[wanabe TOSA]

Originally posted by TheMexican
You obviously dont know what the hell youre talking about when it comes to Autocockers. Take your time, read up, and cockers are unbelievably easy. Dont talk out of your rear.

did u not just read 2k2 ??

im not talkin out of my rear smart guy
omens are autocockers (not the comp.) so they fall under the same catigory to u cant say omens are hard but autockers are easy

[TheMexican]

You kidding me? An Omen is a blowback hybrid electro. Cocker is a closed-bolt mechanical semi. They sure as hell arent the same. Like I said, take your time and read up and cockers are a breeze.

[wanabe TOSA]

o 4real? it is closed bolt ...but has an electric trigger

[TheMexican]

Its a blow black hybrid electro.

[wanabe TOSA]

aight now ur jus blowin it man - i just asked my friend who has da omen an he says its closed bolt...how u gona argue with that

[amnestia55]

he's right its closed...

http://paintball.com/features/story.cfm?placementid=1574&section=62 :rolleyes:

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by wanabe TOSA
aight now ur jus blowin it man - i just asked my friend who has da omen an he says its closed bolt...how u gona argue with that

The omen is weird. Its an Electro hybrid, it has a sear, no solenoid, its closed bolt, and a blowback. End of story.

[wanabe TOSA]

lol r u serious 2k2 lol
so we were both right ....... :)

[Beatmanias]

alright guys... let's not get off topic here but... wow! $450 for a hybrid blowback-electro? I thought it was fully electro that's why it was somewhat worth it but I guess not. lol :P i'm getting off topic myself. Let's not argue about cockers cause there are some people that aren't as mechanically capable as others... like me.

[Canadia_PBaller]

What the hell is this thread even about again?

[wanabe TOSA]

i have no clue

[Evil1]

Why are you imp guys always trashing omen most without ever trying them. yes i had some probs with mine and had to send it in but same with my friends imp. accually both their imps didn't event work. but 1 was because the idiot store owner fault. both guns have there problems. and yes i like both so my opinion is not biase ( dont know how to spell) Lets look at them stock. the imp doesnt come with an anti chop. and both are the same speed not considering the omens pdp and imps. WAS so both can be made faster. when you buy an omen though its great stock and needs little upgrading. and its easy to rip on both. both you going to want the vision which will add more$. Omens and Imps are both great and should both be tested before deciding. but you do need to make sure you test a perfectly tuned one. And Wannabe i got it adjusted so i dont event have 2 adjust it anyone.

[Evil1]

((( both you going to want the vision which will add more$)))


Oops only imp my mistake

[Beatmanias]

oh lol i thought it was a cocker to imp comparison.

[wanabe TOSA]

well evil put a hella of an argument so now its up to u to decide