Do you surrender?

[tewes]

When I play I am notorious for bunkering people or shooting them in the back after I get behind them. Recently people have started inforcing a call of surrender. When someone asks me to surrender I usually say "no" and try to shoot it out. (usually don't succeed) But I think people surrendering is stupid. What do you think?

[CARBON]

well, It depends how close, one time a dude was hiding bhind a bunmer like 7 feet away, but he had me and dove behind a bunker, bt he got me in the fot anyway, but If a person is 2 fet away with the gun at my back, I say OK THANKS its worth to live another day.:eyes: :D
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[Codestar20]

Me and my friends have a 10ft rule. If you are 10ft or less away that person should surrender or get a huge welt, unless it is bunkering. The ones with brain cells surrender. Usually no one surrenders when we play because people never get that close to one another.

[ThaFiend]

The only time I surrender is when I'm aiming at one side of the field and some guy sneaks up on me ( I am a master of camo, so I am also a master*bater* at spotting people who are very well hidden or not) from the behind, cause if he's good enough to get by me then I don't stand a chance. But if it's some nebie or something I just turn and unload on him, a little move I like to cann the reverse-bunker :)

[Magadeth]

I think as a courtesy, if you have a clear shot from less than 10 feet away, you should ask for a surrender. Where I play we use a surrender rule. If you are within 15 feet and your opponent does not know you are there, you are supposed to ask for a surrender. They guy does not have to surrender though. We have a whole procedure worked out for how you surrender. You say "surrender" and if the person wants to surrender, They say "I surrender" , place thier marker on the ground, stand up, raise thier hands, and then piuck up thier marker, put a plug or condom on it and walk off the field. If they do anything other than this procedure, you are justified in shooting them, even if it is pointblank range.

I get a lot of surrenders, but rarely get surrendered myself. I think I was eliminated like that once this year, most times I prefer to shoot it out.

[Crime Dog]

I always give the option to surrender to people I sneak up on. To me, it's just good sportsmanship. I wouldn't want to be shot at point-blank range without the option to surrender, and so I won't do that to others. I use the 10 foot rule as well, and 15 if I've snuck up on someone from behind and they don't know I'm there.

And just for the record, no one has ever bunkered me, and no one has ever snuck up on me.

I don't allow it.

;)

[Ebonclaw]

I don't think I'd surrender unless the gun barrel was in my back. There's always that chance that I can take them with me. I fight to the bitter end, because even if I die, there's another game in 5 min. Who knows, I might just pull something out of my Magic Bag O' Tricks a la Felix the Cat and end up nailing the other guy. If the other guy is behind a bunker behind me and I whirl around, he's covered and I'm not, I'm still gonna get some shots off at whatever is exposed. He'll end up getting me sure, but there's a chance one shot will hit. On the other hand, I am very grateful when people ask if they want me to surrender. I've only surrendered once. That was when there were three of them left, I was out of CO2, my Stingray jammed up, and I realized I was the last one on the field.

[Killer Kat]

Where I play we use the same rules as you Maga & Crime, I too have never been bunkered although I did have a kid run right up to me and ask me to surrender, and to his surprise I screamed "Never" and we played a chaotic game of ring around the maple tree a with markers at each others head until we laughed so hard I had to walk off the field! But I agree it's good sportsmenship to allow someone not to get welted at point blank range.

[DontKillWhitey]

LOL, i wish i could c that killer. Ive never even been asked to surrender so i guess i dont surrender.

[Magadeth]

hehe KK sounds like something I would do.

[NICKYB]

I take pride in the fact that i have never been bunkered or surrendered to anyone.... when im way up front and my back players are out cus of a long ball or somethin, rather then get bunkered i suicide or try to bunker them first =) usually i fail but o well.....

[Scott Misfits]

We play tournament style. Even when we go out for fun. We don't do any surrender rules. We go out and bunker people. We don't have mercy rules. We all know what can happen before we start the game and we all expect it to happen. We don't want it to happen to us, but there is always the possibility of it happening. Deal with it.

[SH4YD33]

i tate it like a man.

[Gryffin]

I thoroughly enjoy making people surrender. I like doing it because I do it well, and it takes a little skill. I have been made to surrender before, here's how the story goes: I was leading one of my friends down a trail that took us to the other side of the range. My friend and I went straight for their flag base via another indescrite trail. I had come fairly close to the destination when I heard a whistle, I believed my friend may had seen somebody so I went back to see what was up and I heard, "you're out too." I could have ran or shot but they had pulled off a pretty nice move and decided not to try and foul their plan.

One time I had taken at least five min. to cover 40 ft of ground, when two people caught in a firefight had started to come towards me as one was sort of being pushed back by the other guys fire. The guy that was being pushed back tagged the other guy but he was already in my sights and close so I said,"surrender!" and the guy didn't really get it so I shot three stray balls and asked again and he said ok! ok!.

Another time the opposing team had suffered few damages and had begun to infiltrate our area. I realized I was the probably the last guy left and found a circle of fern and cover and waited for them to cross a trail that I had a good angle on. I noticed a couple of opponents but they had too much cover when a red guy walks in the trail some 3ft in front of me. I asked him to surrender and he raises his hands high in the air alerting everyone, then the time limit was reached at that exact moment. Later my friend on the opposing team said he had spotted the surrender and then me and was getting ready to take me as the horn blew.

[TheZephyr]

Sometimes the surreder rule is good, like when newbs get bunkered. Sometimes they turn around and shoot you, but we have good refs and they will usually toss the newb the does that for a few games. Sometimes though, the surrender rule is stupid, if a guy tries to surrender me and i have a shot, I'm gonna light him up.

[ad19]

i think that surreder rule is dumb

here's why lets say i snuck up behined you and ask you to surrender you may turn around and pull a matrix (which i would do and you have every right to do) well iam not oging to give you that chance to pull that on me
i dont like being shot pointblank but i dont like being counter bunkered pointblank

[Rascal_X5]

At my field the rule is you can bunker a tourney player, but not a rec. Just my luck I'm a walking advertisement for JT but I only play rec (not enough money for tourney). I've surrendered once. I was the last person left on my team 8 on 1 (awesome adrenaline rush, but scarry as crap). Pintballs blazing. I managed to hold them off. Then from behind I hear "Your dead". At this point I have two choices:
1.) Turn around shoot him, exposing(it was a really tight spot) the rest ot me to the other 7 players and get my black JT jersey brighter than Joseph's coat(See Joseph and the amizing technicolor dream coat by Andrew Lloyd Webber)
2.) Surrender and avoid more bruising than I would expect to recieve in my lifetime.

I chose two. Normally I'll fight back, but at that point I knew my butt(wonder if this is allowed) was grass

[ColdFusion]

I never surrender even if i am out of air, i have trown paint when i ran out of air before

[Killer Kat]

Originally posted by ad19
i think that surreder rule is dumb

here's why lets say i snuck up behined you and ask you to surrender you may turn around and pull a matrix (which i would do and you have every right to do) well iam not oging to give you that chance to pull that on me
i dont like being shot pointblank but i dont like being counter bunkered pointblank

That's not how it works ad19, First off at the begining of the day you explain how the surrender rule works

If someone is behind you and says surrender! You have to choose between two options, 1) raise my arms and call myself out, or 2) turn and shoot it out

Now if you are the caller You've got to be prepared, and have every right to shoot the guy at point blank range if he goes for options #2

Those are the rules we play by, and they work really well as long as EVERYBODY listens at the begining of the game!

[Paintslanga]

i think its a good rule. cause what if u shot him and u shot him in the balls or break his lenses or if it happened to u. i bet u wouldnt like it a whole lot. but paintball is about safety if we didnt have safety it would be just like war. but at my field if u point the gun at them within 10 of range there out. but u have to have a clear shot it dont caount if ur both behind bunkers and ur within 10 ft. but if u both point at the same time ur both out

[Magnus55]

I rarely ask people to surrender. I've had too many times where I give away my position by asking my opponent to surrender and rather than surrender he swings around and ends up lighting me up. Instead I shoot them and apologize after the game is over. Once in a while I will ask for a surrender when I am playing against a less experienced player (mainly first timers) I ask them to surrender and they usually do.

When people ask me to surrender I make it a point not to. the only time I do is when they are behind me and have me out positioned. If I am out gunned or out matched I'll try to shoot it out, but if they have a guarantee shot at me from behind, I'll surrender.

[Killer Kat]

Originally posted by Paintslanga
i think its a good rule. cause what if u shot him and u shot him in the balls or break his lenses or if it happened to u. i bet u wouldnt like it a whole lot. but paintball is about safety if we didnt have safety it would be just like war. but at my field if u point the gun at them within 10 of range there out. but u have to have a clear shot it dont caount if ur both behind bunkers and ur within 10 ft. but if u both point at the same time ur both out
You know it Paintslanga! After the rules are read, questions are answered, sides are drawn up, boundries are layed out, and just before we walk out on to the field or woods to start play, Everybody and I do mean Everybody chrono's! (we set the limit at around 285) The last thing I want to do is tell some kids parent, "Oh I'm sorry but Jimmy shot Little Johnny's eye out cause he was shootin at 372 fps! We enforce rules and safety were I play, Big Time! (masks on til you're totally off the field, arms raised when you're out with barrel plugs in) And people that don't play by the rules aren't welcomed back to our field. The fun ends quickly for everybody, when someone gets hurt!

[skiir360]

i am all about not surrendering. It is well worth the risk i think unless they are 3 ft away but by then you have already been shot anyway so it dont matter. I take my chances and i have the best record so far. I have gone 3 on 1 four times and i have won 2 of those times. Another time my friend and I were outnumbered 5 to 2 and we ripped them apart. When you beat someone like that you can take so much pride in knowing that they have no chance against you. I think its well worth it to take the risk. And to all the people that dump their hopper intentionally at the last second, for my sake, at least stick out your hopper and have the disgrace of getting it hit. I hate it when they say "I ran out of paint" even though they were dead anyway. FIGHT IT OUT BABY.

[surrenderordie]

A place i play has a surrender rule. You ask them to put there guns on the ground. If they dont shoot them. If they do walk up and put your gun to there head and say do you surrender. Usually you say yes. But sometimes they dont say put your gun on the ground and come up and put there gun to your head. One of my friends said no once. Thats gotta hurt.

[gsupanther]

There is a surrender rule where I play. But sometimes when you ask someone to surrender out of curtesy they turn around and shoot at you without you really expecting it. Last time this happened I had sked this guy to surrender cus I was all over him. I know how much a close shot hurts but I guess he didn't so he shoots me three times, I had loded my gun again just a few seconds earlier so I had a full hopper, so I just lit him up till I thought he knew to surrender nextime.

[Compton]

I play by this rule of surrender: "If you have your opponent completely suprised at less than 15 feet, you call surrender and make the elimination. Otherwise your opponent knows of your position and is capable of fighting back."

I had a friend completely suprised and called for a surrender while standing only 6 feet to his right. I was using a PGP and he had a Tippman Pro-carbine, I was outgunned. He then yells back "No, take the hit." and within a split second he unloads 20 rounds into my direction while I fire a single shot of retaliation. I was hit 4 times at 6 feet. I believe the sense of competition is becoming too great in paintball and making the game negative. I did yell my head off because of his careless BS.

I rarely play paintball for this reason and many others, hopefully the paintball players will grow up mature. It's especially unsafe to have angry immature people behind the trigger of a gun. If not I'll just stick to airsoft.

[Squidboy]

I like the surrender rule where I play. You can say surrender whenever you want, they can be two feet away or a mile. If they say no you are free to light them up. If they pause more than a second you can also light them up. There is no distance limit to shoot a person though and you don't have to ask for a surrender. I Never surrender, I shoot it out and suffer the consequences most of the time.

[pbgod68cal]

yea we play by the surrender rule i will usaly do it even if im not close but im kicking so much bootie they dont stand a chance i'll give them the chance to just leave so we dont waste any more air or paint. but in a turn-e its all out war i wont surender any one i only surrenderd on person cuz i didnt want to hurt te poor kid he was 9 with a sfl and he didnt even see me i literly walked up to him and said surrnder and he did with no question. but the surrender rule is good if yor just starting or u got alot f newbs playing

[Minority]

Pain is temporary, if you even have the slightest chance of taking them out, do not surrender.
I have NEVER seurrendered, but I do make people surrender by placing my barrel at the back of the kidney, It makes them really think about trying to shoot me.

[IceMan51901]

No I dont call hit. Usually if the player is with in arms reach I just give them a akward look and grab the end of there barrel, pushing it away from me. While I shoot them in the leg or foot. Works like a charm.:D

[MikeTippyMan]

I will ask people to surrender if I am about 5 feet away from them. As for me surrendering I rarely do even if a barrel is at my back, I will put down my marker with one hand and get the grenade ready with the other. Note make sure the grenade is in front of you so he cant see it then just slam it to the side of the bunker or under your legs. This works great in scenario games. It takes some practice to seem convincing that you have nothing to hide.

[^Psycho^Skillz^]

Where I play there is a surrender rule for all beginner and intermediate games, and since I go with friends I'm usually stuck in the intermediate games :|

Well anyway, how it works is that you MUST call surrender on someone if u r with 10 feet, if you shoot them without calling surrender YOU are out. normally that doesnt sound bad but in reality its a terrible design. (Bunkering is an exception to this rule)

In fact, just last time we played my friend was left and he came up RIGHT behind 2 guys on a team (one near him and one a few bunkers down, but in a straight line with nothing blocking the 2)...the farther guy sees him and starts shooting at him, so he shoots the close guy and hides. Well, he was within 10 feet and didnt call surrender so he's out, but if he had called surrender the other guy would have hit him, he'd be out anyway

Or another game that day I jumped a low bunker and called 2 guys to surrender, they didnt say yes or no, they just said surrender back to me...before I can shoot them, ref says that all 3 of us are out...WTF IS THAT!

Surrender is a very lame rule if you ask me, unless playing with newbies, like 1st or 2nd timers, I dont think this rule should be in effect...

[UTLadiesMan]

I think surrender should only be used when you would easily get the person out. (just a mercy surrender) At one of the fields I play at, if you are within 20 feet, you have to call surrender, and you must surrender if asked too. This gets really bad, because one of my friends ran up to someones back, and the guy with a barrel on his back yelled "surrender!" first, so the ref called out the guy that just bunkered him. Come on!

[WGP_autocoker]

surrendering is not stupid, when you're playing with a newbie instead of shooting them in the back and turning off to the sport all togheter ask them surrender then they might actually come back

[jaredu]

"I WILL NEVER SURRENDER!" --JaredU....

Wait! that's me! Oh well....I have never surrendered, nor will I ever surrender...I think it's stupid and only for people who can't take a few shots at a closer range...You STILL have a chance to stay in the game....Don't blow that chance

[Surreal]

dont surrender, its not worth it. the way i look at it is this : if you run out of paint/air, and your thinking about surrendering, you should just tell your buddy "listen bro, im gonna go for a suicide run, drawing all sorts of fire, get into a good spot/shoot them out while i have their attention" ... this way you are much more of a use to your TEAM than just a walking off sorry ***.

[Johnstarrwalkon]

YOU TOUCHED HIS MARKER!
dude, that's physical contact. you forced the barrel away from you, Ref shoulda pulled you right away. Usually, depends on whether or not i can see the guy. I have, however gotten a guy out after he asked to surrender. I didn't say anything, and reached down to my hip, like i was goin for a barrel plug. Thing is, i got a PT Extreme in a hip holster, with a open bottom. Gogged him right then and there. :D

[3Fingered Jack]

If someone sneaks up to me within ten feet they did a damned good job. I will grant them that and surrender. In any other case, they're mine.

[Silencer.1]

In a tourny, I never surrender, but just a day out is different. I play with all experience levels and I think that if some one was able to sneak up on me and call for surrender they deserve the kill especially if it was a newbie. If it was a newbie, he did a damn fine job. It's not easy to get that close to me. No one needs unnecessary bruises or cuts from close range shots when playing for fun. It's just a game, not life and death. If I'm practicing against another team, then we just agree on wether or not to call surrenders. If they don't want surrenders, blast away.

[weetodd]

i never surrender. i told a kid to surrenender maybe once but then i buunkered him anyway.

[DPeks]

Rec Ball I ask to surrender. In tournaments, however, my team has a theory. If you are asked to surrender, the guy either doesn't have air or paint, so you turn.

[lbujan]

I think it should be used depending on the players that are on the field, especially with newbies, I have told surrender to just 2 ppl and I had the barrels stick to their bodies(how was I able to get so close? dunno), I never take chances with ppl that may not surrender and I've never been asked, neither have been bunkered,yet!, u never know! I was able to bunker a guy who had been playing long before I, he thought he was too good and ta ta right in the goggles, you never know. Besides shooting that close to someone can take them away from the sports, I've seen it soo many times ppl who just doens't want to come again because they said " he could have called surrender instead of shooting right in my head...etc etc"
that's my point we normally never get that close and bunkering someone is another thing.

[Gibralter]

I personally like the surrender rule. Not only is it nice to the person whose shoulder is holding up my barrel :D , but it also kind of takes a little skill. You can shoot someone out from quite aways, but if you can get close enough to make them surrender, it kind of adds insult to injury. When they go out, there buddies ask where they got hit, and they say they didn't. Their buddies ask well why are you out, the he says, that fat boy with the miss matching camos snuck up behind me and tapped me on the shoulder with his barrel. :P

[pb_fool]

Hey,

I NEVER surrender when outnumbered.....but if it is a little close I might(never had it happen though)....I ask ONCE then I unload

[Tai Mai Shu]

always remember the ranger creed:

"though i may be the lone survivor, never shall i surrender nor retreat!!!"

[Crime Dog]

We're not rangers or army wannabes. ;)

This is a game...not war.

[Codestar20]

I don't surrender unless someone did a dang good job of sneaking up on me and they are 10 ft or closer. Why would someone surrender in a tourney anyways??? That just makes no sense. I do agree with Crime Dog. It's just a game, there will be another in 10 mins so who cares.

[TrIppIn]

Surrendering depends on the situation. If theyre just within the 10 ft limit, they round a corner and we end up facing each other, when they ask me to surrender I'll shoot it out. If they shove a barrel into my back, they did a good job on the sneak, I dont want a bleeding welt in a senstivive area, I let them have it. If they manage to sneak up on you and then ask you to surrender within 10ft, you should be out anyway. They obviously had the chance to shoot you before they asked, so its a nice courtesy.

[DaKoRnKiD]

ive had to surrender once when i was the last guy in and i didnt know it. we were on the city fied and i was at a car on the left tape. some guy came up the middle and i was tryin to snap shoot him out but i sux shooting left. my friend got taken out. some guy came up the left and told me to surrender. but i wasnt paying attention to him, to busy woring about the guy in the middle. some of my friends started to yell at me on the side lines so i turned around to see what there were yelling at and i see a guy point blank at me yelling at me to surrender i was like oh **** i didnt even hear that fool. luckily my friends were there and got my attention cuz that guy would of prolly lit me up cuz i guess he was yelling at me to surrender for awhile

[clik17]

i like to go with the nvr surender theme.....
of course it all depends on the situation but usualy i nvr do.....

a few things bout surendering...................

1. my favorite... if ur in front of a bunker and the persons behide u
do some awsome diving backflip style action over ur bunker.....translated to scramble over ur bunker while firing backward over ur head

2.if u are firein on someone and they see the guy behind u and they stand up to laugh and point in ur face try to shoot the one thats easyiest

3.always go down shootin unless the situation makes that impossible......which it nvr

[pbrush]

:devil: - I dont give them a chance to surrender, i make them.-

[Devastator]

I usually start to squat and say Oh Shi... at the ... I shoot em' like like nuts and dart away to run behind em'. I always make sure paint their mask so they don't see where i go.

[sgt carman]

We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills;we shall never surrender, we shall never give up!"
-Sir Winston Churchill
well the begining part may not match the topic but the latter is my view on surrender

if anyone hasent heard of the battle of britain i will be greatly disappointed!

[hmm]

Surrendering is crap. Ive had many situations when someone asks the other to surrender and is shot himself. People generally surrender when they have no chance whatsoever, and if i did ever get the chance to sneak up on someone within 10 yards without them noticing (i did with a talon... but then again its a talon) i wouldn't blast them, i'd just aim for a less painful spot or tag him, unless i really hated him of course. When i shoot someone i also fire several shots to make sure they break. When i first started playing semi, i was charged by 2 people when i was behind a bunker, i fired one shot at each, hitting each of them from about 5-10 yards away, but both shots didnt break and I got shot after they checked for paint and found none. Now times have changed. I was charged this weekend by one of the kids that charged me in the above story, but i went trigger happy, hitting him as he ran 10 yards from me, about 4 times. I kinda felt bad about it, but its good to make sure that you get them out. Im sure someones gonna flame me about my next comment, but surrendering is a crappy rule used in paintball fields for insurance reasons.

[Bodyguard]

I would never surrender ! I have never been bunkered to the point that I had to worry about it. I have made players surrender and have tagged many out. If I run out of air or paint then I call my nearest team mate for cover fire so I can at least make a suicide run to give away some of the other teams positions.

As far as distance, we have a Ten foot rule at our field. When I go over the rules I make SURE everyone hears about that rule as well as the 3 shot max rule(Dont overshoot). If you shoot a player over 3 times on purpose you are out. If you are at 10 feet or closer please ask them to surrender with great caution that they dont shoot you. If you can get close enough to tag them they are out.
We ALWAYS make sure we know who the newbs are and we watch them very close the first few games. If I see a newb get in a bad situation I will try to offer some advice as to whether or not to move, call themselves out or just keep playing and hope for the best. If I see a newb about to get bunkered I make sure one of us (Reffs) are close enough to call it before it gets ugly.
I dont want anyone getting hurt or going home scared and never wanting to come back. Most of the parents are already in a panic from having to sign waivers and have them notarized, if a kid goes home looking like a Leopard from paintball welts we all lose a potentially good future player and end up with negative attitudes toward the sport. Play Safe, Play Hard, Play Fair.

[chimic]

when people try to surrender me i just say you first and point my gun at them, but if their smart they just shoot me.

[PiranhaPunk342]

If He runs up Behind me: I tilt my gun back and shoot him.

If He comes from the side and is out in the open: Stall time so one of your teammates gets em

If he comes in front: Well you light him up!

[Crash Danger]

I always surrender if I'm the last person alive on my team or if I get separated from my team and there's like 2 or more enemies shooting at me...

[tourny_wannabe]

my field ha s a mandetory surrender rule when withen 10 feet they dont see you

they surrender has 1 seconed to say i surrender and put his gun up

but if he chooses to run he cannot shoot back untill he gets 10 feet away

so its olmost impossible to get out of one

so you practicaly have to surrender

but ive never been surrendered

[Killer15]

i think i would try and "pull a matrix" jump and roll to the side while firing really fast with no accuracy lol

or when all else fails pull a pin on a granade and make threats hehehe

[Skizothymic]

well, i didnt read all the posts so i dont know if this has been said:

i dont offer a surrender. i just shoot where it hurts the least. like this one kid i got literally 3 feet away and he had no clue i was there cause i was down the hill from him. i just shot him the the heel of his foot and said you're out.

[young_gun]

when i bunker lil kids i feel bad shooting them so i just shoot there mask. even with its a grown up ill shot them in the mask

[Colin]

I'm the fastest shooter in the west and I eats A-bombs for breakfast. I never surrender.

[java2n1]

we were playin capture the flag and i had the enemys flag and was comin back to base....but before i got the flag i had a shootout with this dude who was like 10 ft away...i asked him to surrender and he said no(so we had a shootout)...i finnally elimnated him...[but like if you are guarding a base or something...you should never surrender unless the gun is in your back or on your mask or something extreme like that...you let your team down when you surrender]...but i was comin back to base and i had no paint left...but i flanked this dude..and he didnt see me..but he never played pb before...i was bout 20 yds away...but i had no paint...then he saw me and just surrendered cuz he had no cover to hide in...it was so funny..and he was really mad after the game when i told him i was out..

Moral: dont surrender unless the barrel is in your back...you let your team down...

[Legionnaired]

A guy at our churce one ran out of ammo, so he put down his gun to run faster, to get some more paint from a teamate.

He found a group of 3 enemies, picked up a stick, and from behind demanded their surrender.

Worked ;)

[Scarecrow]

If I'm the last one left, with either a gun malf. or no paint I'll give up. As long as I have teammates left I'll provide an extra set of eyes and ears, and an extra target.

[MoToMaStR]

surrender is good rule, iv never done it myself, id much rather take the hit and go down fighting than "give up". we were playing 3 on 3's in my home-made speedball feild (i gotta post some pics) i made blue prints, actully they were white, but you get it, and made eveerything perfect and lined up with the help of a laser level and alot of kite string. well anyway, theres these 4 foot tall by 32" wide wood bunkers, and on the other team was this big dude, al. from south carolina. i think he was the last on his team. he was going ape sh*t with his flatline, trying to pick off my team as they moved from long range. he was on my far left side peaking out the left side of the bunker. i cret up basicly, it took oll of 30 seconds to do it quietly. i went totaly around him and i was standing directly inback of him now, for a good 3 seconmds deciding what i should do.... instead of blowing it and panicing or domig something stupid, i walked up slowly and put my cold cold barrel right on the back of his neck, ready to fire, i just said, Wanna surrender? and he turned around with the widest eyes i ever seen, just put his gun down and said, thanks man, i appericiate it. lol. if it was me, i dont think i would have like a shot in the back of the neck that close. dunno about you, but thats full velocity at that range, dosnt go any faster than that after it leaves the barrel. OWWW?! so yes to surrender rule, but not unless nessasary. and don cry if someone dosnt surrender, even though its wrong not to at that range. if all turned around and F'ed me up, id be pretty pissed. but then again, be ready, have that triger pulled in half way and expect it :D

[locust]

we rarely surrender. some guys are wussies and call themselves out when they're outta paint/air. the only forced surrender for us is a barrel tap in the back. if someone's that close, you're finished.

never ask for surrender. the only way to make sure someone's dead is to shoot that mother right when he's got no idea.

[viper x-pb]

If I'd ever had the oppurtunity to surrender, I would most likely try to fight it out even if I had no chance of surviving, but if some guy (or chick) was two feet away from me aiming straight for my nuts, I most definantly would concider a surrender.

[JTramoDude]

Recently at a field by me.. i was using my pgp for a round.

i ran out of air so i was changing it.... half way through getting the new 12gram in... a guy jumped in the other side of my bunker. i was lying down rrreally low so by the time i was just about done he saw me... he called surrender on me without shooting... me, who never goes down without a fight screamed NO... YOU SURRENDER!!!!

after about 10 seconds of yelling back and forth to surrender i knew i had to take action... i screamed back surrender or im gonna shoot... he didn't so i shot him..

well to make a long story slightly shorter we shot eachother... he almost killed me... being i'm 14 and he was prolly in his 30's... i was quite scared for a second... he was screaming to the refs that i should have been thrown out of the park etc....

i think that the surrender rule is crap... i know it's for the nOOb's... but something has to be done about it.

continuing my story... after the round we realized we were friends from a previous round and laughed... but it was a little scary.
'Jim

[Killer15]

lol yeh this is for the guy who wrote last......its not 90%skill and 5% gun 5% team its more like 40%gun 40%skill 20%team

[Squidboy]

I agree with killer.

[tonyr]

Surrender is stupid. Alot of little kids at my field do it but it is just dumb. Yesterday I saw a guy who was the last left on his team. He knew they were probally gonna cream him. It was 1 on 3 so he poped up and shot at all of them. they all ducked behiend their bunkers. then he moved. He totally stopped shooting. Now the other guys were pissing themselves. They had no idea where he was. He made it all the way to their 20 without them noticing him. Then they all rushed to his side of the field thinking he was there. Hey got every one about 5 times in the back. They never saw it coming. I think the best pb stories are when rather then surrendering like a pus, you stick it out and light up the other team.

[tonyr]

oh and i think all of you guys are wrong. Paint ball is 95% balls, and 5% skill. and mabey a little gun too.