Sabotage or Spyder?

[Robomonkey]

hello, im a newbie to Paintball, i was wondering if a Diablo Sabotage Bottomline would be a good first Marker. ive checked prices and im going to get a package with hopper,mask, Co2 tank and the marker. ive been paintballing once. since then im hooked. ive also been looking into spyders (victor II, Shutter and some other electric ones) and was also wondering if those were good too. im kinda on a tight budget about 150, so Yah. lol thanks!

[MrBo]

never used a sabotage.. but i would recommend a spyder, they are great guns and never gave me alot of grief. maintenance is easy on them, and you can find them for good prices. head on over to the kingman forum and read up on all the spyders in the stickies, and then pick one you think suits you best.

[tipptaz]

Spyder's are pretty good. But here is something to think aobut. If ya got around 150 to spend,look ito a tippmann 98. You can get a power pack,gun,hopper,tank,mask,etc, for about that.
Just a suggestion and another option.

[Robomonkey]

thanks, well i dont plan on playing alot. maybe only 2- 3 times month. so i dont need a really good gun

[tipptaz]

Well 2-3 times/month is alot,to me. Like I said in the other post,spyders are good guns. But for me,ya can't beat the reliabilty of a tippmann.But that is only my opinion. I haven't had any problems out of mine. A friend of mine shoots only spiders. He hasn't had any trouble out of them either.
So bottom line is: do the research,and decide what you think is best for you. I would shoot different makes of guns and then decide. But that again is just me.
Hope this helps.

[Robomonkey]

well, my Friend has a Spyder Esprit. it was a very Loud Gun but it was very Accurate too. so maybe ill buy that same gun too. but does it come with the Expansion Chamber and Bottomline too?

[amzng_spyderman]

no, but the spyder imagine does. they perform identically.

[goalscorer]

I have a spdyer rodeo and it works fine for me all i am doing is playing a couple of times a month. the stock barrel is okay and it is reliable. My bro has an xtra and he is real happy with that.

[Durandal]

You can look into an Xtra Package on pbgear (sub 150).

And in case your worried about the spyder not lasting, I've been useing mine once a week since pre December. No problems with it.

[Robomonkey]

thanks u guys! but im still considering the Sabotage...i dont want a gun that as all of the upgrades and stuff already cus i want to put all of my hard work into it. can you guys suggest any good barrels, expansion chambers or modifications?