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GasGuzzler309
03-05-2004, 03:57 PM
Last Saturday, I went to my friends house to play in his woods. My friend and one of his friends both had Fully Auto A-5's. They dont have E-grips or R/T's because Ive looked at them. How would they do this. Thanks

lance9001
03-05-2004, 04:17 PM
if they don't have an e-grip or RT, then i'm stumped. are you sure they don't have one of them? then again, i know more about the 98c than the a-5, this is out of my area of expertise :P srry.

Raptorz922
03-05-2004, 07:45 PM
You can modify the sear to be held down when you pull the trigger and hold it.

tipptaz
03-05-2004, 08:16 PM
Here is an idea, nest time your around their A-5's look at the grip. I think that the e-grip has 2 holes in the ceenter of the grip,under the trigger. That is how ya change modes and adjust the ROF. I think!!!!!!!???????
Hope this helps.

Greedy
03-05-2004, 09:26 PM
Raptorz922-I've never heard of that mod nor do I see how that could be possible.

Either they have a R/T or E-Grip and you just don't know it, they are fanning the trigger OR they have the very well known and a personal favorite of mine (note the sarcasm) Firestorm Crank.

They probably have a R/T or E-Grip, there isn't a mod for full auto A-5's because if there was then a R/T and E-Grip would be useless.

[B]EDIT-Raptor it's "Banned" not "Baned". Just a little FYI.

dtfastj
03-05-2004, 10:05 PM
You can make the stock A-5 fully auto. In fact you can make any tippmann A-5 or 98c fully auto. You start by first ....





Haha and you guys thought I was going to tell. Ask them and see if they know how. I can do it. That gives me another video Idea. I am sure they are bluffing and just have the egrip but who knows. It isn't that hard to figure out. Just a little time and a few custom built mods. There is a mod that you can do that will make your tippmann full auto tho. I am just not ready to tell.

If you really want you can send me your marker with $25 in-closed plus shipping and handling... Just kidding.

Lets think about this my way. If you knew how to make you marker full auto would you tell any one? Didn't think so. You would just show a video and have everyone wondering how you shot so fast with a stock A-5 or 98c.

Raptorz922
03-05-2004, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Greedy
Raptorz922-I've never heard of that mod nor do I see how that could be possible.


[B]EDIT-Raptor it's "Banned" not "Baned". Just a little FYI.

It's easy. Unfortunately I no longer have the file telling how to do it. Either way, it's dumb.

I know what I wrote. I'm not banned. Look up bane. IE: It's a twist of words. I'm a source of fatal injury. :rolleyes:

Mongoose87
03-05-2004, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Raptorz922
I'm a source of fatal injury. :rolleyes:

yes you are

yakitori
03-06-2004, 03:58 AM
If you knew how to make you marker full auto would you tell any one? Didn't think so. You would just show a video and have everyone wondering how you shot so fast with a stock A-5 or 98c.

If I knew a way to make a stock 98 full auto, I wouldnt have bought the RT. And I would post a video and pics of how to do it and revolutionize everyones tippmanns. I would not be holding back to a small group of paintball players online that live in other parts of the world. Not like everyone in your neigborhood is going to be doing the mod. I dont see a reason why anyone would want to keep a secret like that, unless they are just bluffing. That is why it is hard for everyone to believe you. IF youre telling the truth, I guess you dont owe it to anyone to share, but that would be selfish and a blemish on ones personality.

Thats me though. Does anyone else think of it this way too?

Big Miles
03-06-2004, 04:29 AM
They have E grips and for some reason they're pulling your shwanz. Next time their markers are sitting there look at the front of the grip by the trigger there will be two really small holes. That's the Egrip.

GasGuzzler309
03-06-2004, 05:43 AM
Thanks

dtfastj
03-06-2004, 07:01 AM
The mod that makes the Tippmann full makes the marker shoot way to fast to be useful or even safe. You think the ROF I am claiming is quick you haven't seen anything yet. Shoot down is inevitable. Do you really want ever new guy with a Tippmann shooting fast as crap. I am really worried about the safety more than anything. I mean I know it has been done before. I heard or some guy around here that has do the same to his marker. That is really what go me started on trying to prefect the RT and everything. In the process I found out how to make the stock A-5 full auto. The full auto A-5 simply shoots way to fast. Which is why I'm not tell anyone. But I will say that it is possible.

Greedy
03-06-2004, 04:57 PM
Well this is why I nor anyone should beleive you:

1. If this is true then the R/T and E-grip are useless

2. Safety? WTF are you talking about worry about a persons safety? I've been out on the field with people shooting 20+BPS with no shoot down and the last thing anyone is worried about is safety.

3. If you could do this then I'm sure tippmann would be willing to spend a hefty amount of money to find out.

4. If it's the stupid old "33.5 BPS" (Becuase the sear has been taken out) then we've heard it and know it only damages the marker and makes is so consistant it's not useful.

Unless you get some proof some people will just beleive you but for the people who've been on here long enough we don't.

I call BS, what about you guys?

Coenen
03-06-2004, 06:42 PM
It's not COMPLETE BS...but close, until we get the vid hint hiNT HINT!!.

The only way to get full auto without RT, E-grip, or dtfastj's ModRT is the Q-Tip, Toothpick, Straw mod or whatever the hell it's called. That mod is not only asinine but unsafe and harmful to the marker.

I haven't done it much yet, but I'll agree with Big Miles, they're yanking your chain and trying to intimidate you.

Greedy
03-06-2004, 07:34 PM
I had the "Q-tip" mod in my gun. It doesn't do anything even close to make it full auto it just shortens the pull ever so slightly.

I have the J & J Grip now so it doesn't have that extra play.

Nice to see you back in the forums Coenen. I missed your tasteful sarcasm.

Coenen
03-06-2004, 07:57 PM
I thought Q-Tip was one of the full auto mods, I guess it's toothpick that does full auto, meh, the point is that those mods are out there and they are dumb(yes even dumber than the FireStorm Crank).

Hear me Tippmann users, if you do stupid home mods for full auto you are dumber than people using Firestorm Cranks, it is possible, you have proven it.

Like I said I've been around, I just haven't chosen to speak very much, I haven't really needed to. No one's asked many hard questions lately.

You know not to advertise other websites in posts, especially those who rip off Andrew's ideas. :P

dtfastj
03-06-2004, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by Coenen
It's not COMPLETE BS...but close, until we get the vid hint hiNT HINT!!.

The only way to get full auto without RT, E-grip, or dtfastj's ModRT is the Q-Tip, Toothpick, Straw mod or whatever the hell it's called. That mod is not only asinine but unsafe and harmful to the marker.

I haven't done it much yet, but I'll agree with Big Miles, they're yanking your chain and trying to intimidate you.

Custom built sear + RT + Pen spring mod - front spring + 98c or A-5 = one hell of a fast marker. You use the RT to actually slow down the rate of fire because it shoots way to quick for even the cyclone without it. The only thing I know of that can keep up my marker with this mod is a halo b with the rip drive I think its called.

GasGuzzler309 How fast are they shooting? If you can almost count each shot then they have the egrip. But if you can't and the marker sounds like it out of air cause it firing too quickly the they have put the old "toothpick" trick I guess it called. Never done it case you were wondering. But tell them to undue this mod it isn't good for their markers. The cyclone wont keep up anyhow.

Now you basically know what I did. I have a little bit more to slow the rate of fire but besides that I have a marker that can rip quick as any high end marker or what not. In the video, if I can get that stupid thing up, I am not shooting as fast as the marker can shoot. I don't think superfast speeds is safe for the marker.

Is that better or do you need to know more?

runfrumu
03-07-2004, 12:50 AM
maybe the e-bolt

yakitori
03-07-2004, 03:28 AM
Ive got a pen spring mod, but for the RT you dont even need a return trigger spring. Also, there isnt much you can do w/ the sear on a RT kit, thats why they give you the stronger sear spring in the RT kit and you change that out when you install it. If you go w/ lighter sear springs on the RT, it will sometimes not catch. I dont know of much you can do w/ the sear on the RT. anyway, if that is the big mod you have been hiding, then I know you arent anywhere near 24 or 20 bps. I have practically the same setup and I think mine may only be around 14-16bps. and thats on a fairly full tank, its slower when the tank gets low.

Also, the Halo B will keep up w/ your RT, if the cyclone cant. You may be okay w/ the cyclone. The Halo rip drive is just a manual kit that you can add to the Halo B incase your batteries go dead or something else during a game. You turn the wheel on the outside bottom outside the hopper and preload tension on the drive cone springs. you can pretension about 15 balls depending on your feedneck length. It allows you to chrono w/o turning the Halo on and manually feed balls at the rate the Halo can feed by pretensioning. the kit is okay, but not necessary. just get one w/ z code. It pulses and also attempts to undo jams. Pulsing keeps the motor from burning up. Also Halos will need fresh detents, hence the quick strip mod. I take mine out as recommended by NN and it works like a charm. I have yet to chop, skip, double feed, or break a ball in the feedneck or hopper.



:blah:

dtfastj
03-07-2004, 06:54 AM
Trust me the custom built sear is what did it. The sear catches just fine actually. Ummm it shoots way faster than you think. The same mod done my friends 98c makes the marker crazy fast. In fact, believe it or not, the marker will cycle way faster than gravity will feed. So fast in fact it will chop a few ball and then it wont even feed. This is bad for your marker but if you pull out the sear and shoot you will get an idea on how fast I can make my marker fire. Of course I believe that is just too fast and is just harmful for the marker. I am actually about to buy a 98c and do the same mod so I don't have to worry about take the cyclone off. Just depends on price. So 14-16 huh. My marker can fire so fast that the cyclone doesn't do a thing at all is what I am saying. Now ROF means nothing tho as I firmly believe, unless you need to lay down paint, one shot one kill is the way to go. I actually have to use the RT to slow down the ROF. If I pull it all the way back and let it rip, it shoots way to fast and doesn't feed a ball. Making my mod useless for now.

Now Anything and I mean anything that uses a sear to release something to shoot and blowback pressure to recock like a tippmann can be made full auto. What I want to do is to open up mp-5 and see the trigger. There has got be a way to make a switch like that to go from full auto to semi. If tippmann wanted a full auto marker they would have made one.

GasGuzzler309
03-07-2004, 07:00 AM
Thanks guys, Your a big help.

Turambar
03-07-2004, 09:20 AM
GasGuzzler: Ask the guys about the mods you've been told about and PM me what they say. Sorry for closing down your thread, but it's been hijacked.




Originally posted by dtfastj
In fact, believe it or not, the marker will cycle way faster than gravity will feed. So fast in fact it will chop a few ball and then it wont even feed.

Just want to point out that that isn't hard to do. I can outshoot gravity (revy) with my m98, double trigger and just spring mods.




Originally posted by Coenen
It's not COMPLETE BS...but close, until we get the vid hint hiNT HINT!!.

Not COMPLETE BS? So it is BS then. I don't see how making a custom sear would make you be able to fire faster. Let alone so fast that the RT would have to slow it down. I think someone is going to need to PM me and explain how this mods works.

I'm getting tired of you people arguing about this mod.

Closed.