best valve...

[magtser2749]

what yal think is the best valve? lightest trigger? faster recharge?

[SIGSays]

stock is the best

[Intimidation]

RT valve.expensive but awesome.It's :agree:

[Halliday]

Originally posted by magtser2749
what yal think is the best valve? lightest trigger? faster recharge?

You don't mean those "8 hole mods" and "Hurricane valves" do you? Junk. Stock then ReTro are the way to go.

[Magadeth]

:rolleyes: What they said.

[opus16_16]

what is so bad about the Diamond Labs Hurricane Valve,

[Shadow221]

shoot down and voided warrenty and a lightened wallet.

[opus16_16]

Oh it came with my used mag. Should i maybe buy a stock valve.

[Shadow221]

not unless you have a problem with your current valve.

[opus16_16]

Oh ok thanks shadow.

[PolicarStudios]

I tried my friend's retro valve a few days ago. Just as reactive as an rt tippmann cranked to its highest setting. It was probably going full auto around 12bps...sweet.

Actually it was an emag in non-electronic mode or whatever but same deal...it was awesome, the trigger pull was just like an rt tippmann but of course it shot even better....that's the best valve.

[Shadow221]

what pressure was the e-mag running at? Probably at least 850psi I'd bet.

[opus16_16]

the higher the output pressure the higher it shoots right shadow.

[Shadow221]

yup

[opus16_16]

What are the draw backs to a high output pressure

[PolicarStudios]

He was using a bulldog 2 non adjustable tank, which I think has like 850psi output though sometimes I think more cause it seems higher than my crossfire. Anyway, yeah it was really high output pressure and it was simply awesome. A little weird at times (you had to sweetspot it) but it was definitely 10bps or higher...cause I've heard rt tippmanns going a confirmed 12bps and this sounded about the same.

[Shadow221]

Originally posted by opus16_16
What are the draw backs to a high output pressure
Drawbacks?
- few fields and no tourneys allow you to turn up the pressure beyond around 800psi
-much more shoot up(on my old gun I had 30-40 fps at 750psi and 70-80fps at 800-850psi)
-somewhat less consistancy

...just to name a few.

[PolicarStudios]

Wow that's good to know. I play at my field at home and I was telling my friend that when he chronoed he should shoot three or four times fast because of shoot up but I didn't know it was nearly that bad.

Because of this, can it be a good thing to put a secondary regulator on an emag...so you can adjust response, etc.? Is this even feasable?

[Halliday]

Originally posted by PolicarStudios
Because of this, can it be a good thing to put a secondary regulator on an emag...so you can adjust response, etc.? Is this even feasable?

You mean 3rd reg? Mag= 1 reg, HPA tank= 2nd reg...

Guess what? You haven't read the stickies! Surprise!

[PolicarStudios]

Hey, come on...minor detail.

Yes, I know tertiary (hehe big word) regulators starve mags under normal conditions, but aren't adjustable air systems just normal air systems with a secondary reg on them....

And next time I'll check the stickies....

[Shadow221]

no. Adjustable tanks have one reg that is user adjustable. preset tanks have one reg that's (usually)not user adjustable. Only the Nitro Duck Mega Reg tank is dual regulated. That and there is no place to put a third reg on an E-mag.

And with an RT you don't shoot several shots quickly to crono, You hold the trigger back then release and pull again as fast as you can.

[Puddleglum]

Shadow is right again.

[DeFauLt]

you can put a secondary reg on a mag if you want to use a palmer's reg or thor reg. ive seen people who use secondary regs because they cant afford an adjustable tank to make the rt valve legal.

[Vaypourus]

Someplace, there is a post that has the copy of the tests that Glenn Palmer supposedly did to see how many regulators you could possibly have on a gun. The results of his testing showed that another male stabilzer only decreased flow to the gun (3 total; he was running CO2). On his own Blazer, he runs a female Stablizer and a male vertical Stabilzer.

You also have to take into acount the "buffer zone" or whatever it is called. You can't run 800 psi into a gun and expect to get 750 psi out. There has to be a 100-200 psi difference in order for the reg to work correctly. This could a problem with some of those preset tanks set at 750 psi- :|

[PolicarStudios]

Yeah, I was just curious cause I'm scared of the reactive trigger on my friend's emag in mechanical mode...anyway, that's interesting that a stabalizer doesn't decrease flow, I may have to pick one of those up for my marker cause my reg is pretty mediocre.

[Vaypourus]

No- a stabilizer will decrease the flow some. A blazer operates at a lower pressure, so alower input isn't a problem (seeing as how the CO2 pressure out of the tank is in the 700-850 range). Any regulator is going to decrease the flow/pressure.

Think of it this way; you need at least 600-650 psi input into a mag to get it to even work; the mag operates at 380-400 psi. If the regulator didn't decrease the flow, you could input 400 psi right into the valve, right?

[CrazyB]

I got an 850 output tank, if i get a good, high flow vert reg(for sake of example let's say, AKA Side Winder or Mac Dev Gladiator or whatnot) i should be able to safely run 700-750 with no problem, and I stand by the fact that there would be little to no shoot down.

[Shadow221]

true but it is simply better not to do that.