Empire twister??

[MixMasta]

is anyone opposed to the empire twister?? my choises were SP Teardrop or twister and now im leaning more twrds the twiter. is it a good choice...ive read most of the reviess on them and i read sticky's on them, but im still not really sure. if you have any comments on either barrel pleas speak up

[Mojo]

I haven't known Empire to make top-notch barrels so I would advise against it. Go with either A) Smart Parts Teardrop B) Dye Xcel or C) Custom Products one-piece. They're all equal in quality but the prices vary a little. :tup:

[MixMasta]

out of the 3...whichone prefofmes better in the event of a chopped ball??

[Kid33]

teardrops have tons of porting and will not clean out after a break.

None of those really shoot through breaks well. If you want something that is accurate and shoots through breaks get the Bigshot.

[radishboy]

accurate and shoots through breaks? evil driver.

[sain]

shoots through breaks

J&j ceramic...many people say that they are the best for shooting though breaks do to the teflon inside coating....

[MixMasta]

do the port holes and the rifiling really make a difference in the accuracy of the barrel?

[sain]

porting helps in making the barrell reduce the noise....so more porting usually = less sound

[FoolZ GOLD]

Rifeling is completley pointless in paintball.

[MixMasta]

thats kinda what i thought

[DaSpEcSter]

I have both the teardrop(12") and the twiser(14").
And I like the twister better. Neither of them shoot through paint well(once the ball breaks it's shotgun rounds from then on). I like the twister better because with it being 2" longer I can point way way way better with it. It's not as quiet as the teardrop but there's not that much difference. Also the teardrop is a pain to clean, I mean a real pain. If I were to start over I'd go with a CP barrel I think. Also with all the stuff SP has done lately I just don't like them anymore.
Now a friend of mine just got a J&J ceramic and that's pretty nice.

[MixMasta]

okay, thanks alot:D

[Gripy]

Originally posted by FoolZ GOLD
Rifeling is completley pointless in paintball.
that is completly untrue. the rifleing does help the ball have more accuracy. you guys don't know basic physics. my bro has a rifled barrel and is is super accurate. and it does make the ball spin. which will make it more accurate.

[aznpsycho]

lol that only holds true if paintballs were BULLET shaped. most likely the paint will move like a curveball if it does induce spin. since the rifling is a lil sharp inside the barrel, it's also gonna chew up your paintball real good sometimes(ie: armson stealth)

[ptbfighter01]

the twister barrel doesn't work that well after you chop/break because of its small porting. if ur lookin for that, i say go with either a j&j or maybe a 32* whisper...

[FoolZ GOLD]

Originally posted by Gripy

that is completly untrue. the rifleing does help the ball have more accuracy. you guys don't know basic physics. my bro has a rifled barrel and is is super accurate. and it does make the ball spin. which will make it more accurate.


No, it's not. Rifeling only works with real guns, does nothing with a paintball, a paintball is round....unless you buy core....

[Gripy]

Originally posted by FoolZ GOLD



No, it's not. Rifeling only works with real guns, does nothing with a paintball, a paintball is round ....unless you buy core....

so are musket balls you say that the rifled barrel it's an improvment for muskets.

[Comkazii]

ok it doesnt matter if paintballs are bullet shaped or not, in the civil war when they used the lead balls they had rifling in guns and it improved accuracy by about 100 yards. what happens is that what even is in the barrel expands a tiny bit and grips onto the threads on the inside of the barrel and follows what ever pattern they make, so it will put a spin on paintballs but i dont know if it will make them more acccurate bacuase of how much light they are from the lead balls used in the civil war but there is a reason behind rifiling in paintball guns.

[Kid33]

You do know what rifling does to a real bullet, right? I mean, I would hope so with the assumed knowledge you have on the subject.


Rifling on real guns digs in and makes gashes on the bullet. Try that with a paintball and you will just have breaks.


Rifling is useless; they tried it several years ago and it didn't work. Now more companies are trying it because most new paintballers don't know any better and will eat hype like a kid eats candy.

[fligge87]

i have the twister and let me tell you, it kicks some serious a**. It's highly accurate and rarely chops balls (as long as you use good balls, i.e. not wal-mart paint) you put your shot where you want it with this barrel. It's great for sniping. As i like to say, if you run, you just die tired.

[DaSpEcSter]

Jeeeepers...
Well this is was I've found.
I've found that the twister doesn't really spin the paint at all.
I know this because I've done a few tests. I did the powder test. and I also got 2 tone(shelled) paint and blew it through it(in a pretty controled way). And it doesn't spin it :(....
The problem I think with paintball vs ledball rifling is this,
With the old musket rifleing the grooves dug into the led right? Well if you make the grooves dig in enough to grab the paint and turn it then you'll break paint alot.
I do think that the rifleing helps in some other ways though.
I think that the grooves let the air pressure even out or something because my gun shoot more consistanly at the chrono with the twister. I also think that they quiet the barrel a little. They don't seem to make it shoot through paint batter though(to my dismay). Now so far it's my favorite barrel out of my teardrop, a j&j ceramic, flatline, system X, and maybe the dye xcel(that thing shoots pretty tight, but it's small bore and it breaks a lotta paint or so the guy says). Now the CMI rifling does absolutely nothing as far as I can tell. it's just 4 straight grooves and I dont think it stabalizes the balls any.


Now don't get my wrong I love osk's(one shot kills) but there are many times when I just gotta let those little orbs go free in floods of paint and pain. Ok that didn't really have anything to do with this but it just crossed my mind so I wrote it down....
:D

Happy painting!