Questions from a future impulse owner

[coolrazer]

I am looking to buy an impulse vision and I would like to know the weaknesses (if any) of this gun. Are balls chopped much, is the gun accurate, is it really ready for tourneys out of the box, etc.
Thanks

[SPPaintball]

Click the link and read the review, it will answer all of your questions. http://www.directpaintball.com/review_smart_parts_impulse.html

[coolrazer]

thanks, i read it and still need to know what a tapeworm is and what does it do......man i sound like a noob :|

[SPPaintball]

Nah, you dont sound like a noob. Anyway, a tapeworm is desgned to aid in the re-cock function of the Impulse. Normally, and Impulse requires back pressure provided by a paintball to re-cock properly. After installing the tapeworm, you will be able to dry fire your Impulse without the bolt staying foward, and also be able to run the Impulse at a lower pressure without re-cock problems. The tapeworm does this by restricting air pressure from leaving the air chamber, which prevents pressure drop in the air chamber feeding into the 4-way solenoid.

In english, that means it helps you re-cock your Impulse, and saves air.

A tapeworm looks like this.http://www.hunt101.com/img/121032.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=121032&c=500&z=1)

[coolrazer]

thanks!

[Hyperballin]

Thanks dude that helped alot. I am getting a impulse to. I know the lpr is better and more expensive what does it do that the tape worm doesnt?

[SPPaintball]

well, LPR's do everything a tapeworm does, but also cures FSDO (First Shot Drop Off) First shot drop off is when you gass up your Impulse, and the first shot may be as low as 150 fps. Which is not good when you are playing scenario games. Also, some LPR's use a valve system to control output pressure for maximum firing consistency, in other words, they keep your Impulse at about the same FPS. An LPR will also in most cases make your Impulse more efficiant and save you air.

[Hyperballin]

That helped alot , considering the fact that i will become part of the family on wednsday. I know that lprs are better what do they do that tapeworms do not?

[Hyperballin]

dont look at that post it was an accident!!!! ^

[coolrazer]

is the vision eye worth the extra 125 bucks?

[SPPaintball]

Check your other thread... just answered that. :D

[coolrazer]

alright

[Hyperballin]

My friend got his STOCK impulse w/ vison. He got a ball stuck in his barrel. Would you consider that FSDO? If you have fsdo do you have to recock your imp? Also if you have it will it keep doing that? So what do you say get a tape worm, or wait for about 3 billion years to get a Lpr? So the tape worm wont stop fsdo :(

[SPPaintball]

The tapeworm does not cure FSDO. The problem your friend is having, I am not to sure about. But if you have FSDO you will always have it unless you get the LPR. My Impulse has a little FSDO problem, but it doesnt affect me because I always take a couple practice shots right before a game. When FSDO occurs you do not need to re-cock your Impulse, it will re-cock itself. The cause of FSDO is that when you first screw in your tank, the air will not really circulate throughout the gun, and the very first shot or two will be at about half of the desired velocity. Whether you get the LPR or the tapeworm is completely up to you, because FSDO does not bother me at all, but it annoys the heck out of other people.

[toothpastedog]

it's time to post this again:

Okay, here we go... a tapeworm is a solenoid restrictor. what it does is that it "retricts" are from being sucked away from the solenoid valve (which is what moves the bolt/hammer and makes the gun fire-the solenoid bolt can only do this with sufficient air pressure). what happens, is that when you pressurize your impulse, air fills up the valve cavity and the solenoid cavity (the valve and the solenoid valve air different-the valve puts air into the bolt and eventually get to a paintball, while the solenoid valve is basically, a seperate electronic valve that does what i said before). when the impulse is fired, the valve opens and air flows out of it into the bolt and out behind a paintball. when the valve opens though, it sucks air away and out of the solenoid cavity. what the tapeworm does, for 20$, is it restricts air from leaving the solenoid valve cavity, and thus the valve can't suck air away from the solenoid which in turn uses that air to move the bolt/hammer which is how the gun is fired.

a VFF (Voodoo Full Flow), a HFV (High Flow Vertical), and a HFA (High Flow Angled) don't do the same thing, but for 30$ more, they supply the solenoid valve with a consistant uninterupted supply of air that is at the same pressure as what the air is being regulated at the max-flo (or whatever inline reg you're using). an LPR supplies the solenoid valve with an uninterupted supply of air at a lower pressure than that at that gun's valve. why is that so good (in other words, why is an lpr so good?)? well, an LPR is the best because since it supplies the solenoid valve with air at a lower pressure than the air at the gun's valve, you can either:

1) Rase the opperating pressure of the gun (turn the inline reg up) and turn the dwell down (the dwell is how long the valve is held open-the longger the valve is open, the more air gets to the paintball, the higher the velocity is),

OR

2) You can keep the operating pressure low (120psi), turn the dwell up (keep the valve open longer), and turn the lpr's output pressure down.

The first list of things you can do results in less air being used and that means you get the more shots out of your tank (this is because less air is supplied to the paintball with the velocity staying at the same place that it would normally be because the pressure that is put behind the ball is higher than it normally would be and the dwell is turned down-valve is held open for a shorter amount of time-which results in less air being used).

If you do the second list of things with your lpr, you will use more air, (get less out of a tank), but you will also lower the bolt's operating pressure (which is the same as the solenoid valve because the solenoid valve is what powers the bolt/hammer). this results in less balls being chopped because not as much force is being applied to them because the bolt is being opperated at a lower pressure.

Okay, do you want to know why the vision board and eye system on impulses is probably one of the two worst ball detection systems that have ever been though up?-of course you do. well with vision, it has a little ir (infrared) sender and reciever that sends a signal out into the breach and then, if a paintball is in it, it is reflected back to the reciever which then tells the gun's circut board that the gun has a ball in the breach and is ready to fire. thats sounds pretty good right?-well you don't know all the facts yet. with vision, it does detect the ball entering the breach, but if the ball bounces out of the breach after it has been detected (for instance a ball enters the breach, then the vision 'sees' it and then it bounces out just enough to be able to be chopped by the bolt) the vision still will let the ball fire. if the vision sees the ball, it will fire after it has seen it once, reguardless if the ball is still in the breach. that is my main problem with the vision system-it has a couple other problems, like not being able to see certain colours of paint, but i've never had a lot of trouble with it other than what i've already mentioned. i guess i am making it seem like vision isn't worth it, but in my opinoin, it is. even though it isn't the best, it still helps-and it'll raise the bps from the 13.7 of the non-vision stock board to 20bps.:P

About fdso-i've never had a problem with it. why?-because i keep my ram and hammer assembly clean and properly lubed. all you have to do is make sure the hammer assembly and ram are properly lubed and clean and you will never have any problem with fdso.

finally, with the stock barrel, or with a new barrel, any impulse is very accurate. i have two friends with ff boxxers and my impulses are just as accurate as their guns (ff boxxers=one of the three best cockers in the world).

as for tourny ready out of the box, umm i wouldn't say so, but with 20$ invested it is. all you need to do is buy a new trigger and it'll shoot just as fast as anything else. if i were you though, i would spend 90$ and buy a tapeworm, new derlin bolt and new trigger right when i get the impulse, they are the only parts that you 'need' to get to make an impulse great.

[Hyperballin]

I love you, opps sorry i mean your impulse knowledge!!:love: So your saying if i lube my gun i will not have fsdo and if i get a tape worm i will save air!!!!! ? Why should i get the derlin bolt?

[toothpastedog]

right, it seems so simple but it work, just lube your gun and you won't have fdso. the best thing about derlin bolts for impulses is that derlin is a type of plastic that is friction free-that is you will never need to lube it and you never should lube derlin bolts on impulses (the lube will slow them down). also, derlin bolts don't wear down and scratch up the inside of the impulse like the stock aluminum will. they are also more efficient. they also weight less, puting the center of mass over the hammer making it possible to lower the pressure* and shoot faster. read my review of the new designz titanium (ti) bolt pin.

*you really can only lower the pressure if you buy a new stainless steal or brass hammer with you derlin bolt.

[coolrazer]

okay so if i buy a stock impulse without vision and the triiger, tw, and delrin bolt can i still install a vision or is it cheaper to buy it already installed. I'm getting an impulse i just want to know what the best buy is. I don't want to rush into buying a gun and get ripped off like i did with my piece of crap E99.........:pissed:

[toothpastedog]

it is a little cheeper to have by an impulse with vision already on it, but it is easy to install if bought seperately. the price difference between buying an impulse with vision already on it and buy a vision board/eye is about 20-30$ american.

[coolrazer]

ok, thanks :)

[cutter479]

damn e99's:pissed: :yell:

[coolrazer]

i hate spyders... why do you think I bought an impulse?

[master_chadwick]

Okay time for my:twocents: on the spyder bashing trend. For what its worth I've always thought the new spyders coming out are decent guns. From my expeirence people have trouble with them cause they don't read their manuals don't take care of them or take them apart and not put them back together correctly then an owner of a spyder buys lets say an impulse and now takes care of it religiously to me thats what makes the BIG difference. sure they have their downsides, such as being a stack tube blowback, really loud guns, and is it me or do they all have crappy bolts.all that aside spyders of today can be tournament level guns *cough* *cough* Bad Company *cough*. So please my brothers can we stop hating on spyders and focus back to our beloved Impys live and let live. And the next time someone is having trouble with there spyder offer to help and don't blame it on their gun. Can't we all just get along?

[toothpastedog]

peace, you are very right, most spyder owners are just getting into paintball and thus don't really take cleaning their gun, or even reading the manual, very seriously and that results in serious problems. spyders are truely great guns not because they can outpreform impulses (lol), but because they are dirt cheap and that make paintball accsesable to many more people who don't have hundreds of extra dollars that they wipe their butt with-you get the point.

[coolrazer]

obviosly you havent been to the kingman forum, you ask for help their and they fricken bite your head off because you "don't take care of your spyder" which i do. I take extremley (don't think i spelled that right) good care of my spyder, i take the thing apart to clean if i shoot 10 balls! And i do put it back together correctly. And to answer your question, spyder bolts do suck!:cool: and i've been playing for 4 years and in tourneys for 1 year...go here to see why i hate spyders so much! http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=214647&pagenumber=1

[master_chadwick]

A spyder is fine for rec ball but cant hold up and compete in the real world of paintball.
you said that in that post you link so i have to say this again: Bad Company. Maybe you just got a bad egg?but i don't know...... i don't want to hold a grudge or nothing. no hard feelings alright? just voiceing my opinion.

accsesable to many more people who don't have hundreds of extra dollars that they wipe their butt with-you get the point.
hahaha that was great :laugh: well put