Upgrades for a Piranha or Spyder

[Skelo]

I am looking for upgrades on my Piranha so I'm wondering what upgrade I should get besides a barrel. I'm looking at going low pressure. What do ya'll think I should do first? I already upgraded to a PMI Pursuit barrel which is awesome!

[A damn fool]

I have an lp setup, its awsome, not to expenseive, and has bpourght my spydrr down to 275psi

[PiRaNhA69]

dropforward,ex chamber or a regulator,new bolt,to a new hopper like a 9v revvy

[Hsuve]

In order of position to get:
1. Barrel - CP, Lapco, SP, DYE, all great choices
2. 12 volt Revolution - Feeding/chopping problems? No more!
3. Get a double trigger frame, if you don't have one, make sure it also has both inline and staggard holes.
4. Get a trigger job, I can do one for cheap, Polecat Paintball can also do a REALLY nice one for $20 + shipping. If you want me to do it for cheap, catch me on AIM, my screen name is Hsuve.
3. Remove venturi from the bolt, get an AKALMP Lightning bolt, or get a Shocktech Delrin Quickstrip bolt and drill out the center
4. Drill out the vertical adapter if you use a compact Spyder, or get an AKALMP Compact Mitey-Max
5. Get a turbo valve, any will do, make sure it has an aftermarket valve pin though.
6. Get high flowing hoses, macrolines or steel braided hoses are GREAT
7. Polish your bolt and striker
8. Get a regulator - If you use CO2, get the Palmer Stabilizer, period. If you use N2, choose whichever regulator you want, the Vigilante is a really nice one for cheap but performs excellent.
9. Polecat straightfeed or vertical feed body

You can get practically any barrel at a low cost at http://www.paintballbarrels.com

12 volt Revolutions are sold at http://www.predator-paintball.com for like $47.99 in black

You can get different double trigger frames at http://www.g3pb.com

You can get a nice trigger job from Polecat, or you can have me do one. :) By the way, I do have good feedback from some people that say I won't rip you. I'm an honest person!

To remove the venturi from the bolt, heat up the back of the venturi a bit, then take a nice, good pair of pliers, get a good grip on it, and turn counter-clockwise. The AKALMP Lightning bolt is $52.50 at http://www.g3pb.com
The Shocktech Delrin Quickstrip bolt is $39.99, or something like that at http://www.paintballonline.com (my local store)

Drilling the vertical adapter applies ONLY to the compact Spyders, if you have a standard, skip this part. To drill the vertical adapter remove expansion chambers, regulators, the low pressure chamber, screws of any sort from it. Take the drill, put in the bit that's just slightly larger than the hole that leads into the LPC area. Drill the hole from the opposite side of where the LPC screws in. That way you don't have to mess around with threads and perhaps even mess up the threads of the LPC. After enlargening that hole, take the next larger bit and drill it again. Drill the hole with 3 bits, one just larger than the other. On the bottem where the expansion chamber, gas-through forgrip, or regulator is, don't enlargen that hole. From where the hole is, drill a new hole 90 degrees to the right of where the hole is. After that, drill a hole 90 degrees to the left of where the original hole is. Make sure not to go too far forward, for if you do, you'll mess up the threads to the LPC area.
The AKALMP Compact Mitey-Max can be bought for $52.50 at http://www.g3pb.com

Turbo valves can be bought by your local store, probably. If not, http://www.g3pb.com has some.

I'm sure your local store has different hoses, if not, go scream down their necks telling them to save their money and quit the business. :)

To polish your internals, use 800+ grit sand paper and sand your bolt and striker, DO NOT use coarse sand paper. You want fine grit sand paper so you don't take off too much material. Just sand the two parts until they're shiny, no more, no less.

http://www.predator-paintball.com has a good number of regulators, at GREAT prices. They don't have the Palmer Stabilizer though... The Stabilizer can be bought at http://www.g3pb.com

The Polecat straightfeed is basically a mod that changed your feed tube to that of a 'Cockers. It's vented so it minimizes/eliminated blowback. It's great for left handed people as it moves the hopper to the right side, and with it you can finally look over the top of your gun. It's something like $50 + shipping for installation and the black version of the feed, it's around $55 + shipping for installation and the chrome feed. It's nice and it's worth it, in my opinion. They won't rip you by taking your gun and never sending it back either, though the web site isn't the greatest, the work is EXCELLENT. I believe the company email is ferret@polecatpaintball.com. There are two kinds of vertical feed bodies, one is the AKALMP VLM body. The production on those have ceased, however, if you're lucky, you may find one around. They take 'Cocker barrels and 'Cocker ASAs, they take Spyder internals though (duh! :)). They also use the larger strikers, so if you have a compact body Spyder, you have to go get the older kind of striker. The second vertical feed body is the Bob Long one. I believe that they've stopped making the compact ones, meaning if you get a Bob Long vertical feed body, you'll need a standard Spyder vertical adapter, and the larger version striker. I don't know, but there might still be some compact Bob Long vertical feed bodies out there...

[PiRaNhA69]

$***. thats a lot of stuff.i dont think he has enough money for all that.

[Mad Ogre]

Hsuve - What is the price for all that work as you have described?

[TLplus84]

hehe my trigger job is better :P

[Hsuve]

Mad Orge: What work? Trigger work?

TLplus84: Better than whose? :D

[Mad Ogre]

All the work together in one package... save the trigger and polishing - that I do myself. Ive been stoning triggers on everything from 1911s to FALs.

[TLplus84]

hehe oh yeah you weren't on the boards yet when i posted up my thread on my trigger job..hrmm..if you look on the second page, there are two threads on thre. They have a good description of a trigger job on there..i got my pull down to 3 mm. :D alot of people from the Pbreviwe.com forums with spyders/spyder clones have done it. It's a fairly good trigger job.

[Hsuve]

3mm? Are you sure it's not 3/16"? Yes, I've gotten a 3mm pull before, but putting a metal cylinder around the pin in which the sear rests upon, then polishing the sear. However, the striker couldn't catch onto the sear when fired with a gas source. So with that problem, I had to do some additional bit of sanding to get it to catch on. If you have a digital camera, take a pic of before you pull the trigger and after. 3mm trigger pulls are kinda hard to believe...

[Mad Ogre]

To be honest, I have not done a trigger job on a Marker before - but since marker triggers are not as complicated as a weapon trigger... it should be easy.
I worked one of my .45s triggers to a break of a crisp 3 pounds. Not its not the lightest - but the lightest that you'll want to carry.

[TLplus84]

i swear it on my manhood it's 3 mm...i donno how to work a video camera with my computer, and how to post it up on the net..i'll take polaroids of it i guess and post it up..but yes it is 3 mm..