View Full Version : pro/carb or m98 custom?
Skizothymic
10-25-2001, 12:44 PM
pro carb or m98 custom???? the carb costs more so someone thinks it's better. most important things are (in order) the sight, accuracy, feel, then looks. side ones are ball breaks........etc.
sam valentine
10-25-2001, 10:16 PM
the carbine is better made. it is machined not cast like the 98. the blueing wont chip like the 98. the surface is smoother.
its also easier to work on. i can dissasemble it in under a minute with my eyes closed. the 98 you need to unscrew and seperate the halves.:mad:
Moose
10-26-2001, 06:23 AM
The m98, however, has a nice trigger pull. It is better than that of the Pro/Carbine. I also think that it is more upgradeable.
sam valentine
11-01-2001, 09:22 PM
the stock 98 trigger is lighter. its 3 pounds. looks like plastic. not positive cuz i never tore a 98 appart.
the carbine is 9 pounds stock. that is easilly corrected. and the trigger is forged. so the trigger is better. just not the pull.
mine feels like one pound. not sure exactly what it is. my trigger pull is 2.2mm
there are very few items that the carbine dosent have. the 98 has more but not much more.
Pookister569
11-02-2001, 11:32 AM
ummmm... i think the m98 has a LOT more upgrades than the pro/carb.
sam valentine
11-02-2001, 07:06 PM
2/16 of an inch. my bad.
striker
11-03-2001, 07:12 PM
The m98 DOES NOT have many more upgrades than the m98. It has just as many, except for the RT (soon coming to the p/c, though) the electronic kit, the LP kit, and rear-cocking. However, the p/c will soon have the RT, top-cocking, an m16 style grip, and many other sweet stuff that will be unavailable to the m98, thanks to Air-Tipps. Also, the p/c has the Air-tipps rear-bolt, and the m98 doesn't. Simply put, YOU ARE WRONG!
blades of ice
11-03-2001, 08:12 PM
the m98 is also lighter and feels way better to me and its way easyer to get m98 parts from proshops than carb parts and the m98 takes me one minute 21 second to take mine fully apart and the m98 is way more upgradeable it has the flatline double triggers site rails stocks just for it drop forward s made to use the m98 bottom line so you wont have to buy a new one it also has the lp kit ebolt power feeds ad way more stuff that you could fit on 5 guns
Pookister569
11-04-2001, 03:28 PM
well does the pro/carb have the flatline barrel??? MmmmMMmm ... i guess not striker:laugh:
Avery
11-09-2001, 02:33 PM
I did a lot of research into this, he's what I see:
Pro/carb does not have foregrip (good/bad, you decide)
Pro/carb looks more like a rifle
pro/carb has heavier trigger pull
pro/carb is way harder to modify than 98c
pro/carb is harder to find, harder to get parts for
pro/carb is more rugged, easier to clean and strip
pro/carb is harder to make, a little more expensive
pro/carb has a more "rifle" feel
pro/carb can't take flatline
pro/carb can't take a lot of the more major 98 upgrades
I got a 98c, because I wanted to upgrade it and make it my own unique marker. My friend got a pro/carb because he doesn't really want to upgrade much, and prefers not to have a foregrip at all. They are both EQUALLY AWESOME markers, and both are great deals for the price. Both are very rugged, and much more like a real gun than most markers.
macbuzard
11-14-2001, 04:47 PM
why the hell would you want it to look more like a rifle so the cops could shoot at you or sumthing what the heck get the m98 its a whole lot better and more relible and better to customize
Avery
11-14-2001, 05:47 PM
Well, you might be playing paintball for what some people call "FUN". Some people have fun by treating paintball as a survival sport, or pretending that these are real guns (remember, that's why paintball was created, arguably).
In other words, "You could want it to look like a rifle for feel, so you don't be like one of those finger twiddling angel F%&@s."
striker
11-15-2001, 03:16 PM
Blades of Ice: You are so ignorant it's practically funny. Have you ever even shot a pro/carbine??
No, the m98 is NOT lighter. The p/c is 2.5 lbs, compared to the m98's 2.9 lbs. If it feels better to you, that's great but again, have you even held a p/c?
Sure, proshops probably carry m98 parts, but you could get p/c parts very easily over the net, too! So, arguably, you could get p/c parts just as easily as m98 parts.
Oooookaay. It takes me about 30 seconds to completely feild strip my p/c. The m98 has a clamshell design (as you likely know) which means you have to take the entire gun apart before doing ANYTHING! The p/c is machined (not stamped, like the m98 which also causes the p/c to be slightly more gas efficient) which enables it to be field stripped much faster.
No, see my previous post. The m98 is NOT way more upgradable. Granted, they do have the LP kit (although Matt has created an LP kit for his p/c), the flatline, and rear-cocking (however the p/c will soon have top-cocking. Arguably better than rear-cocking), and the electronic bolts and grips, etc... which the p/c doesn't have. However, ANY OTHER UPGRADE that comes available to the m98 is also available to the p/c, even the RT trigger (just made available. e-mail me for info). The p/c also has sight rails, stocks, and drop forwards (which are actually universal upgrades due to the fact that all (virtually) guns have a 2-hole standard mounting bracket -- except for spyders and thier clones which have offset holes) made especially for the p/c. also, the SS braided hose is just about the exact same length as the m98's so the stock SS braided hose will work on any d/f that will also work for the m98.
So, Blades of Ice, next time you want to spout a bunch of ignorance, do some research first!!!
Yes Pookister, sorry I left out the Flatline. :rolleyes:
Avery: You are correct on some aspects, but wrong on others.
Yes, the procarbine does have a harder pull, but with a $1.00 upgrade (a SL-68 II trigger spring) you can reduce it's pull to 3 lbs. Also, there are plenty of homemade mods to reduce the pull length. Matt and Sam reportedly have a 2 mm trigger pull. Verrrry short!
No, I don't think the p/c is harder to upgrade. See my responce to the ignorant Blades of Ice. That also covers the lie that it's harder to get parts for. Why that may be true to some extent, it's still very very easy to get parts for it.
And NO, the p/c DOES have virtually ALL the upgrades a m98 can have, save for the few I mentioned in my response to Blades of Ice.
Please, before you spout ingnorance, RESEARCH first!!!
:)
Cloud-VII
11-15-2001, 03:56 PM
My step bro has a P/C, while I have a c98.
They are both great guns.
To decide between the two, you should only have to think about a few things.
Do you want a flatline?
If no, then the only other thing to think about is do you want a fore grip or not.
The only real difference between the two as far as preformance goes is the trigger pull, which can be fixed very quickly.
I like having the fore grip on mine, whle my step brother likes to hold his like a rifle.
C4pyro
11-15-2001, 09:16 PM
Striker......chill out a little bit. I'm sure you caould have stated all that without flaming Blades, so please try and be a little respectful of others. Keep it clean in here boys.
Avery
11-15-2001, 10:02 PM
Striker:
I'd have to agree with you on just about every point, and would even go so far as to say that the m98 and pro/carb may very well be equally easy to upgrade. I was talking about the 98c when I was mentioning that it was easier to upgrade (It just doesn't _get_ easier than drop-in kits, where you just open the marker, put it in to the predrilled holes, and close the marker).
Anyways, I'd have to agree with Cloud-VII, get the one you like the feel of, all other things aside. That's why I got the 98c and I just bought my good friend a Pro/carb tonight, purely a matter of taste (and I wanted a Flatline).
striker
11-15-2001, 11:46 PM
Sorry C4pyro. Didn't mean it to be a flame. Ingnorant people just get on my nerves sometimes! :)
Yeah, I'll agree with you there, Avery. :)
Skizothymic
11-17-2001, 10:52 AM
new question:
which is MORE ACCURATE (not far away, just in general): the p/c with good barrel, or m98 with flatline? MORE ACCURATE???
Shazaam
11-17-2001, 11:21 AM
The pro carb with a good 12" J&J would be more accurate then a flatline. Flatlines are said to have Good range and distance, But it doesnt perform as well as a J&J Ceramic in accuracy.
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