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MeRRiTT87
04-18-2004, 08:01 PM
So end of the day everyone screwing off c02 tanks right. So my friends ask for some help because i was stuck and i held the gun and he started unscrewing it, well i caught him just as the c02 tank was almost off the valve nipple thing, it started spraying c02 everywhere, it was pure energy tank, i was soooooo scared holy crap.
Omegaboy13
04-18-2004, 08:07 PM
Did the pin get pressed in or something? I was reading a thread a while back about alady dying because of this same reason, except they didn't catch it before it happened like you did.
can'tthink of1
04-18-2004, 08:09 PM
Good job man, way to save someone from possible serious energy.
So this happens on PE tanks eh? Might have to warn my friends...
MeRRiTT87
04-18-2004, 08:13 PM
yeah, and then the guys like where gonna have to send a letter or something that the third one of there tanks that did that :eek:
SPPaintball
04-18-2004, 08:40 PM
Well add another tank, on one of my PE tanks the valve unscrewed while they guys from my proshop where filling it up. That was scary, the tank froze over.:cold:
pcgmrsprts
04-18-2004, 09:48 PM
Make that five. A about 2-3 months ago my friend was unscrewing his pure energy 20oz tank he bought off one of my friends. I was cleaning my gun and all of a sudden I see co2 gas and hear a PSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH coming out of the tank, THANK GOD it was almost empty, it was at the end of the day after we pbed and we got back. Would have either hurt him or blow a hole thru his wall if it was full.:eek:
SPPaintball
04-18-2004, 09:58 PM
And i dont know if this counts, on another one of my PE tanks the valve got stuck open :|
Oderus Urungus
04-18-2004, 10:48 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm scared of my tank :(
SPPaintball
04-18-2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Oderus Urungus
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm scared of my tank :( Dont be scared of your tank, only 2 out of 3 of my PE tanks have been defective:paranoid:
Oderus Urungus
04-18-2004, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by SPPaintball
Dont be scared of your tank, only 2 out of 3 of my PE tanks have been defective:paranoid:
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!
*assumes fetal position and cries*
Heh, ever since hearing about the first death I stand out of the way of the tank when unscrewing... crazy stuff.
SPPaintball
04-18-2004, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Oderus Urungus
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!
*assumes fetal position and cries*
Heh, ever since hearing about the first death I stand out of the way of the tank when unscrewing... crazy stuff.
lmfao
but yeah, it is pretty scary, i point my marker up so that if the tank were to shoot out it would go toward the ground.
Firebladz
04-18-2004, 11:56 PM
I just switched to HPA to avoid Co2 altogether and stayed away from buying a PE tank lmao!
SPPaintball
04-18-2004, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Firebladz
I just switched to HPA to avoid Co2 altogether and stayed away from buying a PE tank lmao! lol im gettin a crossfire 68/4500 i cant wait
pEnNyWiSdOm225
04-19-2004, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by can'tthink of1
way to save someone from possible serious energy.
Yea, it's not good when people are full of energy;)
Anyways, good job on catching it.
thunderpig
04-19-2004, 04:35 AM
Heh, same problem with one of my friends tanks this weekend. We had just got done filling it and we started to screw it off. It was screwing off from the valve though. Luckily I saw it and stopped them from screwing it off further....
I don't know if it was a PE tank or not. I am pretty sure it was bought at wal-mart though...:|
LordOfThePaint
04-19-2004, 06:14 AM
yeah, one of my friends tanks did it once, luckily I noticed before he had it all the way off.
Something needs to be done to make those tanks more safe, like reverse thread the valve or something so when you unscrew it could only get tighter on there instead of coming off...
Sniper15
04-19-2004, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by SPPaintball
lol im gettin a crossfire 68/4500 i cant wait Same here.
I don't have a PE tank, so I geuss I'm alright. But most of my friends tanks are PE.:paranoid:
Never had a tank unscrew on me like that...yet...
Once, though, I had a burst-disk blow. It turns out that the proshop over-filled my tank...they refused to replace the disk, too! :|
Originally posted by LordOfThePaint
Something needs to be done to make those tanks more safe, like reverse thread the valve or something so when you unscrew it could only get tighter on there instead of coming off...
Don't they already do that? :confused:
BTW - Most of my friends have Pure Energy HPA tanks...now I'm worried... :paranoid:
MunkyFuzz
04-19-2004, 08:37 AM
Anyone remember this thread. (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=217753&highlight=Pure+Energy+Tanks)
Ignore the flames but look at the information the guy presents.
loren_5000
04-19-2004, 08:49 AM
whats pure energys probllem they make burst disks with no holes in it now their tanks are shooting off and killing people.
do pure energy hpa have this problem too?
MunkyFuzz
04-19-2004, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by loren_5000
do pure energy hpa have this problem too? I haven't heard anything about their hpa tanks only their co2 tanks.
Bloencustoms
04-19-2004, 09:32 AM
Most of those problems are due to the poor application of thread sealant when the regs and valves are installed. There is a little hole on the top of the threads which is supposed to vent gas in the event the valve is unscrewed from a pressurized tank. Too much thread sealant can block this hole, creating an unsafe condition. Too little thread sealant, and the tank can unscrew from the valve too easily.
Radius
04-19-2004, 11:47 AM
Don't forget to put some grease (not spray lube) onto the threads of the tank before screwing it into the marker. If you don't then it will be very hard to unscrew the tank and you might be unscrewing the wrong part from the gun.
MrTiggleBitties
04-19-2004, 12:13 PM
Thank God I upgraded to Nitro from my 20oz PE.
Helmut
04-19-2004, 12:41 PM
Crap, my friends have those Co2 tanks. I'm glad I upgraded to Nitro, but I am still around those POS tanks.:|
slipknot507gr
04-19-2004, 01:07 PM
I have a crossfire 70/4500 nitro tank, do I need to be worried about this? Or is it only really a problem with co2?
Krazy White Boy
04-19-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by SPPaintball
Dont be scared of your tank, only 2 out of 3 of my PE tanks have been defective:paranoid:
crap i have three tanks. Only one of them leaks.
also the only probs ive had w/ PE HPA tanks is a small leak from the gaugue. Whic i hear is common.
SilentButDeadly
04-19-2004, 01:25 PM
Actually, there was an article in one of my old, and I do mean OLD, Action Pursuit Games magazine about the PE tanks. Here it is:
"PURE ENERGY CO2 TANK POTENTIAL SAFETY CONCERN
A dealer and consumer safety product advisory from Pursuit Marketing, Inc. (PMI) has become aware of a potential safety concern regarding it's Pure Energy C02 tank-valve assemblies purhcased before July 11, 2000. All dealers and consumers are asked to review this notice and inspect all Pure Energy C02 tank-valve assemblies. This inspection will only take a few moments. If you do not feel confident that you can correctly complete this inspection, take your tank-valve assembly to your local paintball supplier for them to complete the inspection or return your tank-valve assembly (after completely emptying all the C02 from it) to: Pursuit Marketing, Inc,. 5035 River Raod, Schiller Park, Illinois 60176. Pursuit Marketing Inc, will reimburse all shipping charges."
I'm not sure if this is the same problem but it seems that pmi has had lots of problems with their C02 tanks. However, I'm fairly sure that the pmi nitro tanks are still safe.
Helmut
04-19-2004, 01:36 PM
I feel safer with my Crossfire now but, I could still be on the receiving end of the flying tank.:| I will ALWAYS stay clear of their tanks on the field, and when I am in the market again.
foofighter#0
04-19-2004, 01:49 PM
YOU INCOMPETENT FOOLS
This is why I bought my Category 5 Anti-Siphon 20oz Tank with an on/of valve
Oderus Urungus
04-19-2004, 02:04 PM
Crossfire 68/45 here I come.
Downfall08
04-19-2004, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by SPPaintball
lol im gettin a crossfire 68/4500 i cant wait
Crossfire. w00t w00t! Just 80 more bucks baby
That happened at our field the other day but the tank was completely empty so no harm done.
p41ntballjunkie
04-19-2004, 02:13 PM
damn those stupid PE tanks and their defectiveness....thats what my local field uses....and they tried to sell me one...screw them
Oderus Urungus
04-19-2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by p41ntballjunkie
damn those stupid PE tanks and their defectiveness....thats what my local field uses....and they tried to sell me one...screw them
*points at your sig*
Seems they've tricked you, my good man.
p41ntballjunkie
04-19-2004, 02:23 PM
indeed they have....hmmm thats interesting
Sniper15
04-19-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by foofighter#0
YOU INCOMPETENT FOOLS
This is why I bought my Category 5 Anti-Siphon 20oz Tank with an on/of valve But if the valve comes off the tank and there's still air in the tank, it's still gonna fly off whether there's an on/off valve or not. Right?
comando345
04-19-2004, 02:41 PM
Bingo sniper! Glad i have a nitro tank hooked up through macroline. As long as your careful though Screw in Co2 should be fine.
DragonX8806
04-19-2004, 03:22 PM
a good way to preven al of this is to buy a smart parts on and off valve that the tank screws into, my friend got it and it works great mso im recommending it to anyone who doesnt want to have to worry about this happening, it will run you about 10$
DragonX8806
04-19-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Sniper15
But if the valve comes off the tank and there's still air in the tank, it's still gonna fly off whether there's an on/off valve or not. Right?
it probly wouldnt be the best idead to try and take your on/off valve off the tank unless its empty, if its close to empty and u want to take it off, release c02 or fire your gun.
Tipp98WhisperEx
04-19-2004, 03:26 PM
Add another tank to your list. Same thing happened to mine, but I never let it come all the way off, I used to have to take it off with a wrench. I also thought it was just a problem with my tank...But it guess it's a little bigger than that. Erm, I just bought a nw PMI tank too... But it's one of their nitro tanks.
AR55 MtM
04-19-2004, 03:31 PM
now im scared i have 2 PE tanks was it bcuz your tanks werent re-hydroed yet. Maybe thats why they are having problems :|
Captainmorgan
04-19-2004, 06:24 PM
AHHH! I'm buying one of their nitro tanks:eek: :eek: :eek: I hope they dont have that problem with nitro tanks:(
DragonX8806
04-20-2004, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by loren_5000
whats pure energys probllem they make burst disks with no holes in it now their tanks are shooting off and killing people.
do pure energy hpa have this problem too?
dont know, but i hear they leak, go with crossfire.
Firebladz
04-20-2004, 11:00 AM
Pure Energy HPA/N2 tanks are also infamous for this sort of problem...
there regs leak just do a search and you will find tons of problems with them...
not to mention there over priced and I believed they are still using the old bottles and gauges...
Radius
04-20-2004, 11:46 AM
Just put a couple drops of green locktite on the bottle, you won't need to unscrew anything to do this as the green stuff is meant for connections that are already threaded.
There, no more worries.
PoisnenedAgain
04-20-2004, 12:43 PM
i have a hpa tank and havn't used it... should i return it and buy crossfire?
Sniper15
04-20-2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by PoisnenedAgain
i have a hpa tank and havn't used it... should i return it and buy crossfire? You can if you want. Crossfire tanks are higher quality then PE, but I don't think there's that much to worry about.
Radius
04-20-2004, 02:06 PM
I think this problem could happen to most tanks if they aren't properly set up anyhow. The main thing is for the player to take notice of the tank when unscrewing it and make sure nothing goes wrong.
baseballboy138
04-20-2004, 03:23 PM
This is why I bought some crazy chromoly no name ones from dunhams! ha But I plan on getting a nitro duck or sumthing non PE in the nearish future, because I would feel wierd at a tourney with Co2, maybe it is just me.
paintballr87
04-20-2004, 04:09 PM
the people with the pin valves getting stick open on the co2 tanks, every couple of fill ( once you tank is like bone dry) you should take a couple drops of oil and put it in the pin valve and take a screw driver and push it in and out a little bit to work the oil in so it will stay free and moving. but remeber do this when it is empty, and if there is like 2 psi left take a screw driver and carefully push in the pins to release the air ( have the screwdriver to the side so your hand isnt over the valve)
Robomonkey
04-20-2004, 04:28 PM
from now i on i will unscrew the tnak away from everyone else.
Helmut
04-20-2004, 05:10 PM
Everone make sure that they put some whiteout or paint line where the valve meets the tank. If the line breaks, don't use and bring to a qualified airsmith.
Mini_Cocker777
04-20-2004, 08:06 PM
Ho-ho,Helmut, you are a smart one their, you are!
ViperXT
04-21-2004, 06:22 AM
Man, you guys have me all nervous about my 20oz PE tank. I've always felt a little weird when I think that there is over 1000PSI just a few inches from my face but now this.
Just curious, if you started to take your tank off but found the valve was coming off what would be the safe way to remove it?
Tipp98WhisperEx
04-21-2004, 06:57 AM
Viper, I used a wrench to take mine off when it did that.
Originally posted by Helmut
Everone make sure that they put some whiteout or paint line where the valve meets the tank. If the line breaks, don't use and bring to a qualified airsmith.
Nice tip. :tup:
I'm doing that as soon as I get home today.
nahthan
04-21-2004, 09:01 AM
I thought i saw that "white line tip" in some paintball publication somewhere else... like the ones i get free at the local proshop :).
shortman506
04-21-2004, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by ViperXT
Just curious, if you started to take your tank off but found the valve was coming off what would be the safe way to remove it?
i think the safest thing would be to screw it all the way back in and take it to the airsmith.
shocker 450
04-21-2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Krazy White Boy
crap i have three tanks. Only one of them leaks.
also the only probs ive had w/ PE HPA tanks is a small leak from the gaugue. Whic i hear is common.
It is common, one of my pure energy tank nitro tanks was leaking out of the reg.... but when the guy at my shop didn't know what the he** he was doing, when my dad brought the tank back up to his ear to see if it was still leaking.... The reg. blew in his ear. So my shop just gave me another/different tank.
MeRRiTT87
04-21-2004, 02:33 PM
when my tank was almost off the valve i just let the air run out and then finished unscrewing it, h3ll i think the valve is still stuck on there:eyes:
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