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RuNDmC1087
04-21-2004, 06:19 AM
I saw this picture on www.acp-products.com and does anybody know where i can get that Dragun Body!?!?!?!

Thx :cool:

http://www.acp-products.com/images/apocalypse_wall.jpg

unknownpsycho
04-21-2004, 06:39 AM
http://www.acp-products.com/images/crazy9-3.jpg
that one seems to look a bit more interesting... Though it looks rather dangerous and milling it woulnt be cheap.

ImprezaWRC
04-21-2004, 02:59 PM
who does that milling ^:love:

schoolsukz08
04-21-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by RuNDmC1087
I saw this picture on www.acp-products.com and does anybody know where i can get that Dragun Body!?!?!?!

Thx :cool:

http://www.acp-products.com/images/apocalypse_wall.jpg

Thats not a Dragun body is a spyder one. Full body to be specific and some milling has been done to it.

Originally posted by ImprezaWRC
who does that milling ^:love:

No one does it, it was a prototype made by ACP that mostly likely couldn't be made. Do a search in the spyder forum Eric@ACP made a post awhile back about it.

TESballer
04-21-2004, 03:12 PM
nice!!! :D ... only bad thing is that you would probably have to get it annoed too and thats a lot of $$$

schoolsukz08
04-21-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by TESballer
nice!!! :D ... only bad thing is that you would probably have to get it annoed too and thats a lot of $$$

I was disappointed when I figured out it couldn't be done with out going thought striker o-rings like crazy. The ol' Black Dragun could use some spicing up. :P BTW anno price isn't that bad.

unknownpsycho
04-21-2004, 04:52 PM
It looks to me that it's milled so that the striker's seal never leaves the un-milled part of the bottom stack, therefore the wear would be normal. You might even possibly cycle faster due to less friction.

Single tone annos aren't too bad- you can get it done for about $60. It's the fades and custom jobs that'll get you.

schoolsukz08
04-21-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by unknownpsycho
It looks to me that it's milled so that the striker's seal never leaves the un-milled part of the bottom stack, therefore the wear would be normal. You might even possibly cycle faster due to less friction.


I don't think so. See that hole not the one for the ball detent but the other one. Well thats right behind the valve (if you didn't know). So when cocked the o-ring would be right at the edge and it will go father back that just cocked. (During recoil)

EDIT: Here is the thread for you lazy people that don't search. http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=211947

unknownpsycho
04-21-2004, 09:01 PM
Here's my crude representation: The maroon being the striker position while uncocked, red being the location of the oring, and navy being the striker position when blown all the way back, blue being the location of the oring. I did this on a 1:1 scale size on my monitor while holding the parts up to the screen so, while not too artistic, it's quite accurate.
http://people.clemson.edu/~chrisw/forum/milled.jpg

RuNDmC1087
04-21-2004, 10:18 PM
nice :D

schoolsukz08
04-22-2004, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by unknownpsycho
Here's my crude representation: The maroon being the striker position while uncocked, red being the location of the oring, and navy being the striker position when blown all the way back, blue being the location of the oring. I did this on a 1:1 scale size on my monitor while holding the parts up to the screen so, while not too artistic, it's quite accurate.


Your red striker is 1/8th of an inch shorter but A+ for effort. But the striker has to move past the sear to catch it and judging from your pictures you only have 1/4th space there.

unknownpsycho
04-22-2004, 10:13 AM
Ok, it's not TOO accurate, but its close enough ;) the blue oring should actually be just a bit further back, but it still wont be leaving the un-milled portion of the lower stack. If done properly, there should be just enough room +~2mm for the seer to catch. But that's if the measurements are done perfectly. I could be wrong, but I'm having a fun enough time drawing all over that CAD and not doing my comp sci project :D

Edit: I added the seer to the image- it shoud be abit lower, but i wanted it right up against the striker, which should be a bit thicker and extending further down.

schoolsukz08
04-22-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by unknownpsycho
Ok, it's not TOO accurate, but its close enough ;) the blue oring should actually be just a bit further back, but it still wont be leaving the un-milled portion of the lower stack. If done properly, there should be just enough room +~2mm for the seer to catch. But that's if the measurements are done perfectly. I could be wrong, but I'm having a fun enough time drawing all over that CAD and not doing my comp sci project :D

Edit: I added the seer to the image- it shoud be abit lower, but i wanted it right up against the striker, which should be a bit thicker and extending further down.

But the striker will go have to go past the sear to catch, key word is past. I'm not sure how far back past it will go but my guess is that its more than two mm. Also I would watch out for others peoples fingers with that, you know sense its so sexy who couldn't resist to pet it. :P Then they pet it while your firing, say bye-bye finger. Also the dirt could get inside of the gun very easily.

TESballer
04-22-2004, 02:58 PM
so it would work if they closed up the bottom part where the striker is and left the top open, even if they did that it would still look sweet

schoolsukz08
04-22-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by TESballer
so it would work if they closed up the bottom part where the striker is and left the top open, even if they did that it would still look sweet

More than likely, but they have already said that they aren't going to mass produce (might not even make one, he just wanted to see the response), so we will have to stick to FBM bodies, for aftermarket bodies.

EDIT: BTW FBM doesn't make bodies for the TES, my bad.