leak or no?

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

ok i set my regs and everything but when i screw in my tank it seems to leak right around the top part of the hpr where its screwed into the gun.....(i think)
anyways it seems to only leak for a few seconds then it stops? and once it started up again after like 5 minutes....

also is it normal that when i chop the bolt gets stuck forward and air shoots out all over until i pull the bolt back or un screw the tank

any kind of help would be very nice

edit (leaking has stopped)

[JustBunkered]

Try replacing the o-ring of the hpr.

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

which one?... and if that doesnt work (ill try it today) what else do you think it might be?

[bko999]

there is a line that goes from the hpr (large reg that your forhand can grab) asa block to the solenoid of ur gun. This hose is housed internally so u have to take ur grip frame off. Do this while the gun is aired up. once u see this line (its usually blue) gentle wiggle both ends (one at the asa block and one at the ram/solenoid) it connects too to see if u can change the leaking sound pitch. If u do, or just feel air coming from that area, then try to push the lines father onto the bars for a better seal (DO THAT step with no air in the gun!.)

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

ok thanks guys i did everything you both said and i also set the regs again and the leaked stopped but now im very scared.... IM CHOPPING LIKE MAD the second i start to rip i chop and the bolt gets stuck forward and air comes out.

anyways i put a piece of tissue over the feed tube and im pretty sure its not blowback because the tissue didnt move
(did i do the blowback test right?)

but why am i chopping? i use a eggy2 so it should be fast enough. please help i have a tourny on may 16 and i dont want to have to send it in becasue i might not get it back in time and im low on money
thanks again

[JustBunkered]

Is your hammer broken off of your Ram assembly. I know that would cause the bolt getting stuck forward.

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

how would i know if my hammers broken of my ram assebly i know what the ram is but not the hammer....

i took my ram out (before i shot it and found out i was chopping) anyways there was some grease lube on it but it wasnt white lithium grease so i wiped it off and rubbed lithium grease on it (a tiny bit) and put it back in thats all.

im thought the bolt was getting stuck forward because when i chopped the paint chips got it stuck forward.... it only happens when i chop.

[JustBunkered]

Take your ram out, if it is 2 piceces then you know the hammer broke off. I don't think it could be the RAM though because if it happens only when it chops. Is everything clean? Try giving it a good clean, there could be some dirt or something in there that is making the balls chop.

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

ok well before i open everything up again can you show me exactly what i should be looking at to make sure its clean and which part should be lubed becasue theres no orings on the ram... do you have any pics you can show me ..
also if its not the ram what else do you think it might be?

thanks a ton justbunkered your a great help

[JustBunkered]

Sorry I do not have a digital camera :|

Your best bet would be to clean everything, and if it still chops, wait for ImpYa to come along, he knows more than i do.

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

well i was thinkin a pic from online but i looked theres not much of the ram....
thanks anyways and ive already Pmed impya

anyone else? thanks tho ill try

[bko999]

Cool no more leak!:D
Well if ur choppin like mad first try to tune the lpr a little bit lower to be easier on the ball. Now ur thinkin "yah but if i turn down the lpr then my velocity goes down."
well dont worry. turn your hpr up more to compensate for the velocity lost.
Now when i say turn the lpr down, i only mean a lil bit. dont go crazy ;)


okay go to obdo.net for a pic of the ram assembly
click tehnical>in peices bko.
And there ya go! notice it applys to bkos that are 02-03.
the ram assembly are the parts right above the noid.
the ram itself is the silver part at the front.
to check if urs is okay, u have to take your gripframe and tray off. Then u unscrews the alan wrech srews (hex screws?) that hold the ram in place on the out side of the gun.

next u take out the ram simply by pulling it out. Notice the blue air line may pull tight so u may have to do some angling to coax that ram out.

After it is out, u can pull on the hammer and slide it in and out. check for damaging, and ur done!

btw, u GAS UP UR GUN WHILE EVERYTHING IS APART!!!!!!
pull the trigger so u can watch the ram go back forth while u hold it in ur hand. this is the perfect way to see if it gets stuck

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

ok thanks, thanks that sounds like it could work thanks bko
but it sounds kind of hard to do without a chrono.

but ill turn the HPR to like 195-200 and the LPR a little lower

if this doesnt work any other suggestions?
thanks ...

[bko999]

quick strip ur blot, pull it out the back, and look through the entire gun. if u see any obstructions and not a smooth mirror like cylinder, then clean it out.
also make sure ur paint to barrel match is right.

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

im still chopping....
i have no clue i messed with the regs and still chopping
i also did the blowback test but the tissue only moved slightly it didnt shoot up or anything and i think it only moved from vibration'

im clueless to what is wrong... anyone know anything else?

[yoda101]

chopping with me was a huge issue when i got my BKO at first. I just didnt have a hopper that could keep up with how fast I could rip on the frame. The bolt when chopping does seem to stick forward, I have seen this on my BKO as well as others at the field it just happens and used to happen way to often. I fixed my problem by getting a hopper that can keep up with me and also picked up an anti chop bolt like the SP Ram or the DAM Ram.

Originally posted by PBmakesLIFEgood
ok thanks, thanks that sounds like it could work thanks bko
but it sounds kind of hard to do without a chrono.

but ill turn the HPR to like 195-200 and the LPR a little lower

if this doesnt work any other suggestions?
thanks ...

[gomster]

Originally posted by yoda101
anti chop bolt like the SP Ram or the DAM Ram.Anti chop bolt, Yoda? :laugh: :P

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

i tried the reg thing and it didnt work.
i already have an eggy2 and im probably going to end up getting some anti chop system but i have a tourny coming up and i wish i did but i dont have any time for that.

could it be blowback tho? i did the test but the tissue only slightly moved is there any other ways to tell if you have blowback.? i use an eggy2 so i thot there would be no blowbackk

[bko999]

Originally posted by PBmakesLIFEgood
im still chopping....
i have no clue i messed with the regs and still chopping
i also did the blowback test but the tissue only moved slightly it didnt shoot up or anything and i think it only moved from vibration'

im clueless to what is wrong... anyone know anything else?

paint to barrel match. check it.

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

checked it paint blows threw barrel smoothly but not easily ...thats not the problem
man i want to cry i cant figure it out unless its blowback:eyes:

[bko999]

i doubt blow back is causing it if u put paper on it and it didnt blow off during firing. lol ur not using B.E. crap pb's r u?

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

nope pmi premium paint.

i mean the paper moved a tiny bit but i thought it was just vibration

[bko999]

well even if the paper moving a tiny bit was caused by blow back, for all practical reasons it would have virtually NO effect on the flow of pbs into your breech.

[bko999]

Btw, when did ur chopping prblm start?

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

well i lubed the regs and then aired the bko up for the first time and dry fired it and it was fine. then i put paint in and the second i started shooting fast it started chopping.

the bko is used and it was used by Flaco from this forum who i trust and he said when he had it that it was having no problems but i havnt talked to him since i bought it

[PBmakesLIFEgood]

WAIT I THINK I MIGHT HAVE IT

could it be a low battery?
because in the manual it says that if you have a low battery you will get unexplainable paint breakage

uhg but im guessing with my luck it wont work

[bko999]

:nod: y didnt i think of that?!
yes this could be the problem. it makes sense too. like u said b4, the guy who had ur bko didnt have choppage prblms. but mabye he had a fresh battery too.

a low battery will give u very eractic velocities. sometimes they will be off the wall crazy. so hey, pop a new one in and see what happens.