Whats with the HALO?

[NSUCK]

Ive head about this 'new' hopper thats gonna be comming out called a HALO and how its gonna cost 150$ (shreek) but what exactly does it do different than anyother revy?

[magicsly1]

It can release 30 bps.

[TheSickness]

also it is computer controled to fire after every shot fired. alos it has a faster moter to keep up with the fast ball feeds. the computer speeds up the moter as you start to shoot faster to stop any delay. also this hopper acullay feeds balls not break up jams like all the others do

[NSUCK]

Lol what the hell kinda gun is gonna need 30 bps? err there is 80 extra bux i dont have to spend ;) btw and ideas on what the best revy ver is?

[Letchworth40]

anything intellifeed is fast

[Pookister569]

um... i think it feeds 16 balls per second, not 30:rolleyes:

[AllOleander]

yah 16bps stock.. but of course ppl say 30 w/ like 300$ worth of upgrades :rolleyes:

I think it will be too big for a front player, so im sticking w/ a 12v rev.

the difference betweent the halo compared to every other hopper out there is that the halo has a spin wheel instead of paddles.. so it collects the paintballs and spins them into the feedneck

[kashik]

The HALO didnt look to big in the movies, it looked roughly the same size as a revvy. Though im not sure, i havent seen any comparisons yet.

[surrenderordie]

You can get them for $110.00

[PBfreak01]

It's already out in some areas, so why didn't WARPIG include it in their hopper tests?

[KOTOWA]

HALO!!! Its gonna be sweet. Im gonna upgrade it like no tommorow. Then, Ill get an emag, and let it rain paint!

[Paco]

Where are they available for $110? I'm thinking bout getting one.Awww yeah:nod:

[surrenderordie]

Yeah i have a post HALOS FOR 110 RICS FOR 70

[SuperStarWF]

Vertical hoppers can not excede 13 bps. No matter what you do to them; The only exception to this rule is the Warp feed because it stores over 20 balls in the tube and is able to force flow in excess of 20 bps. Most verticaly set hoppers can only have 6-7 balls stored in the feed.

[snipinhick]

well i hate to inform you of this, but the warp and the HALO are almost the same design, and yes it has been proven to feed upwards of 30 bps...

[SuperStarWF]

Ummm are you on crack? Did you bother to look at a halo? It's the same design as a revolution except it's shaped different. The warp feed isn't even a hopper. I mounts below the gun and stores over 20 balls in the tube and forces them in upon gun fire. Same design ? No


This is a HALO

[SuperStarWF]

and this is a warp feed

[VeNoM]

the halo does have sometime of "force feed" rather than just letting it drop, a wheel pushes the paint (i think, i am not sure as they havent released full info) but i read than AGD put one on a warp and it feed the warp and e-mag on full auto 16 bps. they said it was the only hopper than could keep up with the warp at that rate.

[SuperStarWF]

Well I stuck my gun on 18 bps on full auto no problem with Warp Feed and a Revolution with X board.

[SuperStarWF]

And a warp can easily exceed 20 bps so long as balls from the hopper keep constant pressure on the balls circulating through the feed..... The X board response time is amazing... Can easily deal with it.

[Paco]

Well other than the Warp, I'd have to say that this thing is the fastest feeding available for most guns out there. And it can feed faster than 13 bps. It's not just gravity fed with a wheel to break up ball jams. It lets gravity feed balls into a wheel, similar to the Warp, then pushes them on a direct line out of the neck of the hopper. It's a similar idea, but set up within a hopper, and turned on it's side.
So, for curiosity's sake, how long can a warp feed with an X board Revy maintain 20 bps? For 1 second? At some point the wheel and tube will empty and then it's up to the hopper to keep 20 bps moving into the feed wheel. I guess I should find out how many balls the warp feed keeps on tap between the hopper and the bolt of the gun.

[SuperStarWF]

That all depends on hose set up. My hose has to go very high so it holds between hopper and bolt at the least 30 or 40 balls.

[surrenderordie]

Hey SuperStarWF Have you taken a look at the Halo everything is completely different on the inside and out. It can feed up to 30bps.

[SuperStarWF]

Unless it can store 30 bps from hopper to bolt..... Nope, it sure can't.

[KOTOWA]

Halo aint nothing like the viewloader you arse!

Halo inside view,

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/halo/mechanism.jpg

Halo in action,

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/halo/spinning.jpg

Viewloader paddles, all they do is spin,

http://www.pettypb.com/wacker01.jpg

[Paco]

Well, it works a little differently. And technically yes it can. It can store 180 or so balls between the hopper and bolt because it IS a hopper. In this case it's not so much a question of how many balls are qued up, but how quickly it can move those balls into the gun. The bolt is the only thing that keep them from pouring out of the hopper. And it has to move out of the way more than 16 times per second to outrun the HALO. Short of full auto I don't know many times that is going to happen. What I want to see is how a supposed 'software upgrade' will take a 16bps HALO and make it 30bps!!

[SuperStarWF]

I will repeat myself again. I don't care how the halo feeds...... Theres no way it stores over 20 balls between the feed port and the bolt. Unless Halo defies gravity it can't feed over 13 bps.

[surrenderordie]

Exactly you just got your answer. IT PUSHES THE BALL FROM THE HOPPER INTO THE GUN. Everytime you shot it takes another ball and pushes it in. If you are shooting at 30 bps it just ends up pushing the balls into the gun. Gravity has no effect on the speed because they get pushed into the gun not just droping into it.

[Paco]

Maybe it does then. It is not a gravity feed like the Revy that just stirs paint around before allowing it to fall. It is an assisted feed, like the Warp, which pushes the paint faster than gravity alone can feed it. The difference is that the warp has to push it UP from below the chamber of the gun, and the HALO pushes DOWN from above because it's not built the same way. It feeds faster than 13bps the same as the warp feed feeds faster than 13 bps.
Storage of the paint before going into the gun is not an issue with the HALO like it is with the Warp feed. The HALO draws balls directly from the supply inside the hopper. It eliminates the middleman so to speak, which would be the hose. The hose on a Warp is not the determining factor for the speed at which it feeds. It is just a means of getting paint from one place to another. What makes the difference is the wheel with the motor attached to it. Otherwise it's just a gravity feed, making it useless since it would be pushing uphill.

[kneedragger]

SuperstarWF, go here and look at the videos and tell me that a loader can't feed over 13 BPS.

Odyssey (http://www.odysseypaintball.com)

Then feel free to post videos of your setup shooting a constant 18 BPS.

[kneedragger]

Oh yeah, the HALO is just sooooooo much bigger then the Rev... Try 2/10 on an inch bigger at the widest part.

http://www.odysseypaintball.com/images/halorevcompa.gif

[TheSickness]

in that picture it looks a little smaller than the revo is