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tippmann_98_98
05-02-2004, 05:01 PM
How come the air in my tippy 98 goes so fast it seems like?? I dont have the response trigger or anything just a CP one peice, but i have a 24 ounce c02 and after like 700 balls they start suckig really really bad they dont go far at all. I dont have any leaks or anything. (im sure of that)

And when i have me volicty screw not sticking out but just strigght with the gun (its almost out) its not the best. is there any thing wrong or waht/?

hybrid-sniper
05-02-2004, 06:34 PM
Your all idiots your to busy spamming to actually answer his question.

Tippmanns are very inefficient guns, which means they use more gas then whats necassary to cycle the marker. A barrel with lots of porting will do this as well, because the ball needs more gas pushing it to get it up to a good velocity as compared to a barrel with little porting.

tastemyballs
05-02-2004, 07:04 PM
back to the subject.....i think your problem may be is your velocity is up to high which uses ALOT of air and makes your paintball very inacurrate anyway try turning your volicty down by screwing it clockwise with a alein wrenth,i hope i helped you out,i know i misspelled some stuff but im in a hurry.good hunting,have fun

Master-Duo
05-02-2004, 07:42 PM
If your looking for accuracy, turn the velocity down a bit, test it out, then make sure you've the right barrel match for the caliber (size) of the paintball.

Once you've matched the right velocity with the right paintball, with the right barrel, then you'll be shooting just fine.

If your still having problems, bring it to a pro shop, pawn it off, and get a new marker :D

yakitori
05-02-2004, 07:51 PM
adjusting the velocity on a tippmann98 will not affect gas consumption much. The velocity screw just reduces the flow once its released from the valve. It will be the same amount regardless of how far you turn the velocity screw in.

Other than the barrel porting, you could have a leak somewhere in your gas system. It may be a small leak and slowly dribble air out. Check the valve screws and make sure they are okay. Also, check your gas lines where they connect w/ the ASA and the valve/xchamber/reg whatever you have. And the O ring on the valve could be a possible cause, although its less likely. I dont feel like clicking back to look at your setup.

Anyway. Other than that, where ever you get your tanks filled, they could just not be filling them up completely depending on the weather. OR it could just be the weather itself. If its cold out, you will get fewer shots. That is strange though, because I think I get somewhere between 900-1000 shots on a 20oz, and maybe less sometimes.

Paintballrocks
05-03-2004, 05:59 AM
ok im not gonna be mean becuz this is a good question and i would need help on it too, so anyway TippyClassic lay off if he makes a stupid posts then be niceer to him in the way to tell him to stop makin stupid posts dont go all beserk-o on him we've already made a bad inpression on dye_12345.

OK here is the deal i have a 12 ounce right ,well i can make it last 1000 paintballs( no joke my friends dont know how i do it if you dont believe me you can ask cloudstrife2237)well you have double that much air and you can only shoot 700 correct??

ok either you have a leak (which you said is not the fact), the hose cold not be screwed in all the way ( that once happened to me with a different gun)

so i dont know what could be wrong with it other than what i have told you

and to save ppl from:banghead: :banghead: plz do a search so noone gets :pissed: at you ,cool??

AgentOrange
05-03-2004, 02:03 PM
For greater effciancy get anti siphon and an xchamber\reg. Xchamber will probably do better for an xchamber.

Turambar
05-03-2004, 05:45 PM
What was the weather like that day? If it was really cold out, that lowers your efficiency significantly.

If you don't have any leaks, then really the only thing that would be doing that is either the tank was not even close to being full, or the weather was bad.

tippmann_98_98
05-03-2004, 05:59 PM
It wasnt cold out (it was nice 47) there were some ice flakes coming out of my barrel tho alot of them!

ANd i just filled the 24 ounce:confused:

Stanman
05-04-2004, 05:40 AM
um... 47 degrees Fahrenheit??? Yes that would've been nice to me about a month ago when the snow left :P... CO2 is stored in your tank as a liquid and the small amout that has expanded puts out 850psi when the tank temp is 70*F and goes downhill fast as you get colder and gets better as it gets warmer... So as you might figure the fact that it was 47* outside means that you had a very low pressure in your tank and that you were also running on liquid (this can be deducted from the fact that you were creating your own snow storm...) Now i can definitely attest to the fact that when it is cool out that inline actions get a bit inefficient... however they are the most effficient I have ever seen when it is warmer out (My Sheri gets 900 rounds/9 oz and my friends get 6-800 rounds/9 oz with their 98c's)

Shiv
05-04-2004, 07:07 AM
When steel braid hoses leak they tend to be very slow undetectable leaks. And stanman is correct, liquid CO2 is both very bad for your gun (plastic parts especially) and totally murders your gas efficiency.

If you don’t mind rusting your steel braid a little (clean it well afterwards) put your line in some soapy water and look for bubbles.

Take your gun apart and take out the power tube and asa adapter, screw in your tank and put everything but the asa adapter and the power tube (DO NOT GET WATER IN THIS!!) under the water, if you see bubbles then you have a bad line and should replace it.

As for checking where the line screws in just take a little dish soap on your finger and rub it around the seal, the soap should bubble if there is a leak. Teflon tape, or some other sealant, should be used whenever you work with threaded seals that will be under high pressure.

By threaded seals I mean like the end of a steel braid line. If you don’t it WILL leak regardless of how tight you have it (if its brass this does not apply because brass is a soft metal and will form a tight seal).

bigxonbox
05-04-2004, 10:51 AM
Well most of this thread is about answered, since every scenario was pretty much talked about. Change the o-ring on your co2 tank and before you put on your co2 into the asa put an o-ring inside there. Without that extra o-ring my marker leaks alot, so yours might leak a little. At first it didn't happen so maybe it progressed from a small thing.
--So put a new oring on the tank, and put one in the asa just to make sure. (Guy at cousins told me this and it works godly now, im surprised i never knew that before he told me, nobody else seems to do it)

charlieboy
05-04-2004, 12:16 PM
I got a question that goes with this I put a dead on pro seal and put a drop on my gun and last saturday when I played my gun (its about 3 years old) wouldn't stay cocked to well it uncocked a lot of the time during the games really messing me up. And I couldn't get my marker to stay consistent at the chrono like a 30-40 psi change. I only got like 700-800 shots before I thought I needed a refill since it wouldn't stay cocked if I shot fast and it was getting like 215 at the chrono and I couldn't get it higher since CO2 comes with the field fee it didn't bother me much. Could I need a new spring my gun is 3 years old? I was thinking I might have a leak but even if I did I just got my CO2 filled.

fonzie
05-04-2004, 02:45 PM
Well tippy 98 did your problem get fixed I thik the weather had a lot to do with it if it wa 47 F. where are you with this problem I would love to help you out.

yakitori
05-04-2004, 02:52 PM
thats what Im talkin about fonzie. Helll ya! Everytime I call tippmann techs or email, they tell me to send the gun in. BUT, I can do just about anything to my tippmann except take the Valve apart. W/ your help, I will be able to solve any problem I ever face w/ my tippmann. Can you tell us how to take the valve internals out and put them back in?

You can PM me so Tura doenst get upset.

Its nice to have someone on the inside that can help out w/ anything w/o having to send the gun in and be w/o a gun for a week and pay for shipping.

peace

yak

Agent_47
05-06-2004, 03:41 AM
charlieboy: did you put teflon tape or loctite on the threads of the hose after you screwed it back in? cuz, without the tape or loctite it'll leak.

Erik3032
05-07-2004, 02:02 PM
whered you get your tank filled? Sometimes places like sports authority don't fill it all the way. Maybe like 10 ounces or something because they're poopie heads. Well that's usually the case for me so yeah.

johnh5304
05-07-2004, 04:10 PM
Yeah i put some teflon tape on there but before I play abain I'm going to redo the tape to make sure.