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Z201
05-03-2004, 09:49 AM
My frd just bought a Tippmann model 98 w/the BT-16 barrel. Does anyone know if that is a good barrel? Cuz i was not able to find it on the reviews.

http://www.actionvillage.com/012-143-0002.html

teufelhunden
05-03-2004, 09:51 AM
It must be terrible, look at it. Anything that needs to put an M-16 style foregrip on it is making up for something, namely lack of performance.

dubix88
05-03-2004, 11:04 AM
HEY,
Actually it isnt that bad. It is no flatline but it is better than some other barrels ive tried on it. The m-16 foregrip isnt making up for something, its just making it look better. Not all thing like this are bad. Anyways, if you want to spend the money for it, dont worry its not a bad barrel. Plus, if you get the car stock and m-16 carry handle you can get a 98 to look just like an m-16. Good luck and happy hunting.

Randy

alouba
05-03-2004, 11:10 AM
it said "sniper" clear sign of avertizing to nOObs:laugh:
it would give a mil-sim look, but who really cares?
accuracy and quality can't be high

teufelhunden
05-03-2004, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by dubix88
HEY,
Actually it isnt that bad. It is no flatline but it is better than some other barrels ive tried on it. The m-16 foregrip isnt making up for something, its just making it look better. Not all thing like this are bad. Anyways, if you want to spend the money for it, dont worry its not a bad barrel. Plus, if you get the car stock and m-16 carry handle you can get a 98 to look just like an m-16. Good luck and happy hunting.

Randy

The flatline sucks big fat donkey balls.

Comparing anything to that is like comparing something to a bannana... what relevance does it have?

thedus
05-03-2004, 11:57 AM
...So the M-16 style grip makes it look better... and how does that help performance?

And what good does a carry handle do? ...Again: does it help with performance?

Don't confuse aesthetics with good ol' fashioned quality and performance.



Originally posted by dubix88
HEY,
Actually it isnt that bad. It is no flatline but it is better than some other barrels ive tried on it. The m-16 foregrip isnt making up for something, its just making it look better. Not all thing like this are bad. Anyways, if you want to spend the money for it, dont worry its not a bad barrel. Plus, if you get the car stock and m-16 carry handle you can get a 98 to look just like an m-16. Good luck and happy hunting.

Randy

teufelhunden
05-03-2004, 12:13 PM
thedus! How you doin? Long time no talk.

dubix88
05-03-2004, 01:01 PM
HEY,
The flatline only sucks if you 1)shoot crap paint out of it or2) dont tune the gun to the barrel cuz it aint a straight barrel, it is after all curved. I never said the carry handle served any purpose other than aesthetics. Why is it that every time someone has a different opinion about something someone gets all offensive about stuff? The m-16 barrel does help with performance if you still have a stock barrel or some other low end barrel. Accuracy is not bad, not the best but not bad. The barrel kit my stepdad sells does not say sniper, all it says is " BT-16 Barrel for Custom 98". And another question. Y do people keep crapping on flatlines? Yes it does have problems if you dont put it in straight, or if you dont shoot good paint through it. But alot of barrels are like that. Good luck and happy hunting.

Randy

STO Balla 22
05-03-2004, 02:22 PM
I don't like flatlines for a few reasons-
1)They make your gun look similar to a real gun. Paintball isn't a wargame, it's paintball, contrary to what all the noobs think, who think that paintball markers look cool if they look like real guns.
2)If you tilt your gun to the side (ie to get your hopper in), the balls will have a weird spin and will curve.
3)They're big and bulky looking.
4)They're hard to clean out
5)They're overpriced, for less money you can get an ultralite or some other nice barrel.

teufelhunden
05-03-2004, 03:19 PM
The only thing Flatlines have for them is a little extra distance... which isn't effective range anyway. Paint goes too slow past where it drops off with a not POS barrel to break anyway..

It's a crappy marketing gimmick to try and make people make their gun even crappier.

sendoh7
05-03-2004, 03:33 PM
I'm using a Tippmann model 98 w/the BT-16 barrel but it's not really that accuracy. What barrel will you guys recommend me to use?

Superbeast
05-03-2004, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by sendoh7
I'm using a Tippmann model 98 w/the BT-16 barrel but it's not really that accuracy. What barrel will you guys recommend me to use? Custom Products 1 Piece, Lapco Bigshot, or J&J Ceramic.

alouba
05-03-2004, 05:59 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dubix88
HEY,
The flatline only sucks if you 1)shoot crap paint out of it or2) dont tune the gun to the barrel cuz it aint a straight barrel, it is after all curved. I never said the carry handle served any purpose other than aesthetics. Why is it that every time someone has a different opinion about something someone gets all offensive about stuff? ]we only do that when things make us The m-16 barrel does help with performance if you still have a stock barrel or some other low end barrel. perhaps the stock barrel, but even a progressive, which is considered low end, would shoot better then that Accuracy is not bad, not the best but not bad. :eek: REALLY?Thebarrel kit when did it become a barrel kit? my stepdad sells does not say sniper, all it says is " BT-16 Barrel for Custom 98". the link he gaved did! And another question. Y do people keep crapping on flatlines? Yes it does have problems if you dont put it in straight, or if you dont shoot good paint through it. But alot of barrels are like that. Good luck and happy hunting.

Randy [/QUOTE

thedus
05-04-2004, 04:59 AM
Relax, man. I wasn't getting offensive. However, if you want to get your feathers ruffled and take a defensive posture that's you're own doing. And I'm all for different opinions... hell, they're the breath of life to any discussion so bring 'em on. So don't think I was getting up in your face over a varying opinion. If you love your Flatline that's all fine and dandy... just explain why, make a convincing argument, stand by your convictions, and I'll respect that. Of course, that doesn't mean I'll agree with you, but I'll respect your views.

Please explain how an "M-16 barrel" helps performance... I'm curious. Are you speaking of your personal performance in the game due to this grip, or the barrel's overall performance in relation to other barrels.

IMO, any barrel over 14" is pointless due to the fact that it can have an negative effect on your marker's efficiency (higher amount of pressure will be needed to maintain the ball's speed through the additional barrel length... which means more air used per shot).

My problem with a flatline: It strikes me as being more gimmick than practical function. Yeah, it works great in theory, but in all honesty the added improvements seem to be negligible, and more times that not the balls merely bounce off the intended target - if that target is beyond the range of your average barrel. ...that is of course provided that the balls aren't blown off target by wind sheers. The longer the ball is in the air the more it is going to be affected by various weather conditions, and that "extra 20 yards" that is advertised is prime time for the ball to be blown around because it has already begun to drop in speed.

:twocents:


Teufel - Good to see you around. :D I'll send you a PM later today.

Originally posted by dubix88
HEY,
The flatline only sucks if you 1)shoot crap paint out of it or2) dont tune the gun to the barrel cuz it aint a straight barrel, it is after all curved. I never said the carry handle served any purpose other than aesthetics. Why is it that every time someone has a different opinion about something someone gets all offensive about stuff? The m-16 barrel does help with performance if you still have a stock barrel or some other low end barrel. Accuracy is not bad, not the best but not bad. The barrel kit my stepdad sells does not say sniper, all it says is " BT-16 Barrel for Custom 98". And another question. Y do people keep crapping on flatlines? Yes it does have problems if you dont put it in straight, or if you dont shoot good paint through it. But alot of barrels are like that. Good luck and happy hunting.

Randy

The Gargoyle
05-05-2004, 06:48 PM
I bought the ProTeam FX Barrel last month from Paintballgear.com. It looks just like this BT-M16 except for the swivel for a strap. It does not have one (I wish it did).

I like it alot and it is pretty accurate. I use Evil Paint and I have no problems with it in accuracy. My kills were as good as when I used my boomstick. Iv'e played on two different fields so I can say that Iv'e tested it.

I play Woods Recreation only. I like to shoot using the handguard instead of the handle grip (expansion chamber in my case). It feels more like a real rifle ... M-16 style.

As for performance, the barrel is accurate enough for woods playing. Like I said, my boomstick gets just as many kills.

The gun is set up mostly for looks....
Remember, it is the player and not the gun that will make or break you on the field. I think the paint is the next biggest variable and then the barrel. My son has an WGP Auto Cocker and I admit it is fun to shoot ... but I'd rather have my "M-16" instead. In fact, I like it so much, I'm trying to sell my other 98C with the boomstick & upgrades to finance my paint this year.

Just my opnion mind you...

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