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MuckRaker
11-03-2001, 04:01 PM
I got some complaints to get out in the open.

I'm sick and tired of reading articles, stories, columns in the paintball mags by all the Higher Ups in the NPPL saying that in order for paintball to become more respected, more commercially viable, that the sport has to clean up it's act. Players have to stop cussing, cheating and act responsible before the spectators, they have to treat each other with respect ... blah blah blah ad nauseum.

Yet, the NPPL is either unwilling or unable to run a clean show at the World Cup.

I have friends who played on several teams in the novice and amateur divisions, and from what they've told me, the amount and excess of cheating that went on was 1,000 percent in the opposite direction of what the NPPL Higher Ups say they want and work for in all those articles.

In one game, an Am B team played the pro team AfterShock UK. The Am B team shot one Aftershock player in the mask, but the player was not removed from the game. Later, an Aftershock player was hit on the hopper, the AmB player that hit him called for a check, the ref only looked at one side of the hopper, even though spectators were yelling at him to check both sides, after the ref left, the player wiped his hopper, in plain view of the spectators.

In the novice finals, VIP, a team from Puerto Rico, which took first place, had people in spectator area calling out in Spainish where the other team's players were. One of their friends in the spectator area was using a cell phone with an ear piece to communicate with a player on the field. Complaints were filed with the Refs, but they didn't look into the allegations.

There was also a lot of talk about Refs helping out teams that they knew, which meant if you were a team that the refs didn't like, you probably got screwed by the people who are supposed to be unbiased, objective game officials.

I think that if you 're gonna have to shell out $1,000 in entry fees, Hundreds to buy paint, hotel accomodations, etc, then the NPPL should go out of it's way to ensure that the tournament is clean, unbiased and fair. Otherwise it's the biggest money making scam in Sports History.

Codestar20
11-03-2001, 06:09 PM
Man, that is a load of horsecrap. The NPPL needs to stop favoring the pro teams. I have a few issues of Paintball2Xtremes and they have articles all the time of the refs cheating for the pro players against the Amatur A and B teams.

MuckRaker
11-03-2001, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Codestar20
Man, that is a load of horsecrap. The NPPL needs to stop favoring the pro teams. I have a few issues of Paintball2Xtremes and they have articles all the time of the refs cheating for the pro players against the Amatur A and B teams.

Did you read the "Big Column" by the editor, How to make Paintball More Commercially Acceptable.

he goes on to say how other extreme sports events like skateboarding or BMX draw huge crowds, have adoring fans and athletes who are personable.

Well, it's because there's no CHEATING ... their individual competitions. If the editor is so concerned about making paintball more acceptable, he should use his magazine to "hold NPPL's feet to the fire."

Shifty Capone
11-08-2001, 08:30 PM
thats some big *** bull**** right there

filasophikal
11-08-2001, 11:58 PM
that is what makes me feel soo sick about tournies, is that the refs are either okay or very pathetic in judging... most of the players that play in am b & a, including pro... if they get the chance to cheat without being caught -- they will do it. It just makes me sick.

Halliday
11-09-2001, 11:34 AM
Muck, if what you said it true, it makes me sick. Now I have not desire to go the the big tourneys if that kind of shiznet happens.

MuckRaker
11-09-2001, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Halliday
Muck, if what you said it true, it makes me sick. Now I have not desire to go the the big tourneys if that kind of shiznet happens.

There are certain people, who if they came to me and said, "Well, we lost because such and such happened ..." I wouldn't believe them for crap.

but the people who told me about this are very trustworthy, I work with one of them, I play all the time with the others ... they're not a bunch of dumb pukes, they're educated and hold professional jobs when they're not on the field. (not saying that younger players are prone to exaggerate and get things wrong).

FalconMan
11-09-2001, 05:33 PM
I personally i think this issue needs to addressed and be punishable to the refs at a 500 dollar fine each time this happens and the cheating from just the players needs to be stopped and watched closely.

elTwitcho
11-12-2001, 10:42 AM
Here's my thoughts... For the longest time the NPPL was the best. If you wanted respect, you played the NPPL. You wanted to be the best team, then you won the NPPL. Everything else didn't really matter. Until now of course. Suddenly there's the Milenium series of tournaments going on in Europe which... well they smoke the hell outta anything that we've got this side of the Atlantic. Reffing was alot better there, trade shows were more organized, Toulouse was shown on french television etc etc. For the longest while the NPPL was full of cheaters and refs who supported them. When the Milenium popped up, they've started to give the NPPL something to compete against. For a while, they were losing. So now we've got an NPPL that realises it's gotta clean up it's act, and for the most part, this year's events were much better than anything done before. Teams that formerly wouldn't play the NPPL because of the reffing have come over to play the NPPLs flagship event (Russian Legion is one such team). But not only is the World Cup the flagship event for the NPPL, it's also the stop on the circuit that's taken the most flak. Jerry Braun runs the tournament to make a profit plain and simple, while most of the other NPPL stops (SC Village stop for example) come out just about even. No surpise that the events that aren't cash cows are considered the best NPPL events, while Jerry's World Cup is considered to be a big load of crap (so to speak). While most of the NPPL has cleaned up it's act, it looks like maybe Jerry hasn't. Then again, I haven't heard much yet though so personally I'm gonna wait before forming my opinions. But, based on past complaints leveled against the World Cup, it really doesn't surpise me that more would be coming. Anyhow...