View Full Version : spiral porting or strait
tippydaddy1119
05-08-2004, 09:14 PM
Ok so im lookiin for a barrle for me 98. Im lookin at either a sp teardrop, or a dye excel. Which would best suite a rec ball player{I DID DO A SEARCH AND LOOKED AT THE STICKIES}. And is there a diffrence in performance between a spiral ported barrel and a straight ported one??
reneirwolf878
05-09-2004, 05:31 AM
No, spiral is no better than straight and vice versa. A barrel is a barrel, neither is better for recball.
AgentOrange
05-09-2004, 05:33 AM
Well I personally don't think either of those of best out their in their price range but your pick. For woods I'd at least get a 14in barrel if not longer.
tippydaddy1119
05-09-2004, 07:15 AM
I did a search about paint/bore sizes, ansd looking at the paint i usually buy im leaning towards the teardrop. The xcels bore is to big for my needs. Even though I like dye 10x better than smart parts, I need a good paint/bore match.
reneirwolf878
05-09-2004, 07:35 AM
And why is that? With the xcel you can shoot anything.
tippydaddy1119
05-09-2004, 07:55 AM
big bore paint is kinda hard 2 come by up in ohio. I know the xcel can shoot any thing, but can it shoot a small bore paint lika anarchy, with good acuracy???
Kowz_76
05-09-2004, 08:16 AM
Yeah, it can. I'd go for a CP or a Lapco barrel over both of those.
dubix88
05-09-2004, 01:48 PM
HEY,
Although it isnt proven nor have i actually tested it, i think spiral ported barrels are a little more accurate, but if so, not by much. Not sure tho so dont quote me. Good luck and happy hunting.
Randy
Kowz_76
05-09-2004, 01:50 PM
Porting doesn't matter. The hone matters. All the spiral does is look kinda cool. My bigshot has almost no porting, and I've found it to be more accurate than most barrels.
soontobecocker
05-12-2004, 04:49 PM
Whichever barrel that has less holes should tend to be more accurate, because the more holes then the less air that there, then the ball would have less speed tending to drop more and to be less consistant, but it would be really quiet. I am just guessing this tho so.
STO Balla 22
05-12-2004, 05:08 PM
A barrel does need some porting before the end of the barrel, but too much sacrifices effeciency, but is more quiet. Without porting, the air behind the ball has a very high pressure and is very turbulent. When the ball hits the porting, some of that pressure is released and the ball gets to ride on a nice comfy cushion of air.
Porting doesn't make an ounce of difference. Get the Xcel, it's the cheapest of the two, and Dye makes good products.
CoolT
05-12-2004, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Kowz_76
I'd go for a CP or a Lapco barrel over both of those.
:nod:
The Xcel is a nice barrel but it's large bore hurts it a little with smaller paint.
Lord Kalo
05-12-2004, 10:52 PM
Porting does matter if you want to quiet your marker down.
A barrel with more porting will be significantly quieter than one with out. Porting shortens up the effective surface that the ball has to accelerate.
In the case of a 14" Freak it essentially has about 6" of acceleration surface and 8" of useless barrel length that works essentially as a "silencer".
A 12" Lapco Bigshot has about 11.5" of acceleration surface before the laminar chamber.
The 14" Freak will be significantly quieter than the 12" Lapco while actually using less of the barrel to accelerate paint.
If the question is specifically about comparing straight vs. spiral porting, spiral porting is a lot quieter since it allows Smart Parts to fit more ports in a given length of barrel then say Dye would typically put on the same length of barrel.
One problem with spiral porting is that it doesn't shoot through breaks very well. In fact, it is nearly impossible to clear out a spiral ported Freak/All American after a break.
A barrel with horizontal porting would be much more likely to shoot through and recover after breaking paint.
If you want a quiet barrel the Freak with the All American front is a great choice, but you'll be cursing yourself if you ever break paint.
If you need bang for buck you really can't go wrong with the CP one-piece, I think they make them for Model 98s. If you can spend a little more, the MacDev Matchstick set is great if you have cocker or spyder threads.
reneirwolf878
05-13-2004, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by CoolT
:nod:
The Xcel is a nice barrel but it's large bore hurts it a little with smaller paint.
I used to be an advocate of a strict paint/bore match..but now I only believe in that with closed bolt markers. Any open bolt marker will shoot small bore paint thru a large bore barrel just fine.
CoolT
05-13-2004, 07:32 AM
It's still best to have a paint to barrel match. Small bore paint through a large bore barrel is not an accurate combination. Efficiency also drops a little bit as the ball gets smaller than the bore.
paintballer42o
05-13-2004, 08:51 AM
Theres 2 diffrences:
Looks
The Maker
STO Balla 22
05-13-2004, 12:46 PM
If you think about it, it's obvious why paint to barrel match is at least a little important. When your paint fits snugly in the barrel, the air will be displaced around it evenly. When the ball is too small, too much air might go to one side of the ball, creating spin.
ta2maki
05-13-2004, 07:14 PM
here's more stuff on paint to barrel matches
ao website (http://www.automags.org/resource/tech/tomstech/02_boresize.shtml)
reneirwolf878
05-14-2004, 05:33 PM
Meh, shoot small paint thru a .693 barrel, you'll believe me when you see it firsthand. Sure, you may get a dozen shots less off a tank, but the convience factor offsets it.
tigerpaws27
05-17-2004, 08:41 AM
Umm... in case no one has noticed, if you look closely at the porting on a teardrop, it is staight. I don't know which one is better, but as far as comparing the teardrop to on with straight porting, ummm... they both technically have straight porting.
STO Balla 22
05-17-2004, 12:22 PM
Teardrops definitely have Spiral Porting. Look at the pattern, it spirals around the barrel.
lotus_esprit5
05-17-2004, 12:40 PM
also check out the CP one-piece and J&J Ceramic if you havent already. as far as i know spiral vs. straight, i dunno. i dont think theres any difference performace-wise, but maybe it affects how easily the barrel shoots clean after a break?
reneirwolf878
05-17-2004, 03:21 PM
Not really, less porting generally means easier cleaning.
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